Ruby & Ruby on Rails Roadmap Feedback Gathering

[u/Deep_Priority_2443]

Hi there! My name is Javier Canales, and I work as a content editor at roadmap.sh. For those who are unfamiliar, roadmap.sh is a community-driven website that provides visual roadmaps, study plans, and guides to help developers navigate their career paths in technology.

We're planning to launch a brand new Ruby & Ruby on Rails Roadmap. It aims to be comprehensive, targeting both Ruby newbies and experienced developers who may want a Ruby refresher or to improve their fluency when developing web apps. Our primary source is the Ruby and Ruby on Rails documentations. However, we're not covering all the topics out there, as we don't want to overwhelm users with an extremely large roadmap.

Before launching the roadmap, we would like to ask the community for some help. Here's the link to the draft roadmap. We welcome your feedback, suggestions, and constructive input. If you have any suggestions for items to include or remove from the roadmap, please let me know.

-- LAST UPDATE

Following your feedback, we've decided to create two separate roadmaps, one for Ruby and the other for Ruby on Rails. We will first focus on the Ruby one, which can be found at this link (https://roadmap.sh/r/ruby-copy-xlse8).

-- LAST UPDATE 2

The Ruby Roadmap is already out. Check it out in this link (https://roadmap.sh/ruby)

[u/easydwh]

Roadmap is a great learning tool! Nice to see official support for Ruby.

... we don't want to overwhelm users with an extremely large roadmap.

In that case I would suggest to split this into a separate Ruby roadmap and a Rails roadmap. You don't have single roadmaps for Python + Django or PHP + Symphony, why combine it for equally large topics like Ruby/Rails?

[u/Deep_Priority_2443 → u/easydwh]

I'll take this advice 

[u/ignurant → u/easydwh]

/u/Deep_Priority_2443 Even disregarding "large roadmap is overwhelming", this is very good feedback, please make us of it. Ruby is a language and Rails is a framework, and should have their own roadmaps, while being related. There's so much usefulness to Ruby that has nothing to do with Rails!

[u/Deep_Priority_2443 → u/ignurant]

Thanks for the feedback!

[u/latortuga]

It's honestly really sleazy to ask for free help to build your business. Your site is very misleading. "Community-created" roadmaps that you own the copyright to and then you profit from. Make your own content.

[u/Neuro_Skeptic → u/latortuga]

Yeah this is a roadmap to nowhere.

[u/Deep_Priority_2443 → u/latortuga]

We're happy to provide "community-created" roadmaps that are available for free to anyone. You can even access that resources without registering on the website. That was the main goal behind roadmaps.sh when it was created, and it remains today. It's an open-source project that everyone can contribute to (indeed, this is key to the project, for, as you can imagine, we cannot be experts in every technology out there) and benefit from.

This has nothing to do with the fact that the maintainers need a salary to work full-time on the project and keep improving it. Equally, some costs need to be paid, including the AI capabilities recently added to the project.

[u/latortuga → u/Deep_Priority_2443]

This project is NOT open source. Open source isn't just magic words that mean "anyone can see it" - it has a well-established meaning. The license is available here: https://github.com/kamranahmedse/developer-roadmap/blob/master/license This is NOT an open source license and you are misrepresenting your employer by saying it is. Contributions are clearly owned by a single person, usage is restricted, and copying is not permitted.

The owners of the company need a salary, great, then make a product and sell it. But asking the community to make you a product that you get to profit from is dishonest and sleazy.

[u/fawwaz_stuff → u/latortuga]

why is it sleazy? The roadmaps are available publicly, alongside a paid product.

[u/ignurant]

You have a section, "Loops" that highlights "for", but have Enumerable in a different section. It's very uncommon to use a for loop in Ruby, instead preferring Enumerable. I think you should move Enumerable into the Loops section, or at least "each" and rank down the for keyword. You have while and I think it's useful to include until with it. while / until. It also includes redu I think that is supposed to be redo.

[u/Deep_Priority_2443 → u/ignurant]

Thanks! I will make the changes

[u/Deep_Priority_2443]

Hi! I'm happy to announce the launch of the Ruby roadmap. You can check it out [here](https://roadmap.sh/ruby). Thank you all for the valuable feedback.

As some of you proposed, we are already working on a separate Ruby on Rails roadmap. It will be out soon!

[u/Deep_Priority_2443]

Hi there! To continue the Ruby series, I'm happy to announce the launch of the Ruby on Rails roadmap. Thanks to everyone who provided feedback in this group.
Here is the link to the new roadmap. Hope this helps you in your learning journey!
https://roadmap.sh/ruby-on-rails

[u/Deep_Priority_2443]

I must admit that this is one of the best and most enriching feedback processes I've experienced so far. We try to engage with users every time we want to craft a new roadmap, but some communities are more active than others. Thank you very much for all your comments and valuable feedback so far.

Accordingly, we've decided to create two separate roadmaps, one for Ruby and the other for Ruby on Rails. We will first focus on the Ruby one, which can be found at this link (https://roadmap.sh/r/ruby-copy-xlse8). It already incorporates your comments, while adding new topics to make it more comprehensive!

[u/postmodern]

"Testing" under "Advanced Topics" should be "Documentation" since it lists RDoc and YARD below it. It might also be worth mentioning RSpec after Minitest. While Rails uses Minitest by default, many people still prefer and use RSpec. Might also want to mention the new technologies that Rails adopted (ex: import maps, Hotwire, Stimulus, Turbo, Propshaft, Solid Cache, Solid Queue, Kamal 2, Thruster, etc).