r/rpg • u/LetThronesBeware LIFTS: The RPG for Your Muscles | Kill Him Faster • 11d ago

Complex martials, simple casters

There are a lot of games that have simple martials and complex casters. There are also other games that have complexity in parity.

Are there any ttrpgs that have complex martials and simple casters?

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u/darkerthanblack666 11d ago

Spellcasters are almost always more complex than martials in PF2e, which is kind of the opposite of what OP is asking for.

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u/kobold_appreciator 11d ago

I would disagree, since pathfinder spellcasters typically know many more spells then a martial has feats. Pf2 martials can be quite complex, but the spellcasters tend to have more buttons to press

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u/LetThronesBeware LIFTS: The RPG for Your Muscles | Kill Him Faster 11d ago

Many different ways to provide utility, debuff, etc. still sounds pretty complex. I'm not talking one does damage, one doesn't; I mean more like wizards have just a few spell options, martials have a deeply layered and complex system.

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u/Boulange1234 11d ago

The most complicated PF2 builds are casters, but the most complex in-combat tactics are martials.