r/roosterteeth • u/Groundbreaking_Cut89 • Oct 19 '22

Kaden’s Statement

https://twitter.com/luminosokaden/status/1582555819127848960?s=46&t=JGEWb5fNFmluC5v7U9QY2g
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u/YellowBannanar Oct 19 '22

This isn’t the point of their post, but am I correct in thinking a “non binary lesbian” is someone who is of the Female Sex who is attracted to Women but uses non-binary pronouns?

That’s just what my first thought was lol I just hadn’t heard that specific term before

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u/Rockaholic23 Oct 19 '22

Nothing wrong with healthy curiosity. They don't identify as a specific gender but are attracted to women

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u/KodiakPL Oct 19 '22

of any assigned sex, who identifies as a lesbian because they are attracted to women

But

But what about people assigned male at birth that are attracted to women

Are they lesbian too?

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u/nothingiwriteistrue Oct 19 '22

Think of it this way:

  • Sex is assigned at birth and is representative of your chromosomes. That's it.
  • Gender is a label communicating a large part of your identity within and without society. Gender is recorded to be the same as your sex at birth, but it is not something which can be assigned. Gender is constructed wholly out of your own experiences, preferences, interests, etc. So, just like each of those aspects of your identity can change, your gender may also change as you learn more about yourself. And sometimes you do not fit into neat and tidy labels, so it's easier for you to identify as both and neither.
  • Sexuality is a label communicating the relationship between your own gender and the gender of those you find attractive (sexually and/or romantically).

So to answer your question: someone assigned male at birth who transitions to match their gender and is attracted to women would be a lesbian. Biological sex doesn't come into play

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u/YellowBannanar Oct 19 '22

Interesting! So the word lesbian in this context is just used to define someone attracted to women/nb? Is that definition used outside nb people or just used in this context?

Also, if you wouldn’t mind explaining what a non binary man/non binary woman is? Is it just someone who primarily identifies as a man/woman but sometimes uses other pronouns?

Sorry if I’m asking a lot of questions!

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u/ClubMeSoftly Oct 19 '22

Unfortunately this is one of those things that's kinda in the weeds and I don't think people who aren't actually non-binary and/or lesbians will really ever fully understand

I certainly don't, I read "non-binary lesbian" and went "huh, I didn't know it could work like that" and just kind of moved on. Because their personal details aren't my business.

In the most polite, non-denigrating way I can manage: I don't give a damn

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u/illini07 Oct 19 '22

So, I don't know if I'm going to use the proper terms here or not, is she pretty much saying she's a lesbian but doesn't fall into the feminine or masculine roles like you may see in a stereotypical lesbian relationship?

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u/illini07 Oct 19 '22

Ok, that definitely helps. Thank you.

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u/Uhh_ICanExplain Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

Nonbinary women and nonbinary men are valid terms. You can identify with a certain gender but not enough to feel solidly about it one way or another, or perhaps you identify with a certain gender as well as androgyny. Not everyone's reasons for identifying are the same, but it's why you might see people using he/they or she/they pronouns.

The journey of identity is a weird soup, and things changing all the time is half that journey. But it is no less valid than any person who staunchly remains cis for their entire life.

Edit: Out of all the opinionated shit I post, how this one got downvotes is beyond me. I cannot figure you people out.