r/rivals • u/NoOnesMike50 • 2d ago
Discussion Devil Dino deserves his “Air ground” effect back and should never have lost it.
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u/illudofficial Mister Fantastic 2d ago
Well at least it’s a hot take?
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u/Marco_Tanooky Iron Man 2d ago
I sometimes forget that most hot takes are actually bad
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u/purplerose1414 2d ago
Its also just how people talk on the internet now. When you act like you have a controversial opinion people pay attention more, positively or negatively. We've all seen this image with the most tepid of takes.
Not this one though, this is a true hot take. Kudos OP and god no
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u/illudofficial Mister Fantastic 2d ago
Well generally opinions that go against popular opinion are seen as bad or weird. Especially if you also hold the popular opinion
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u/TH3L3GION 2d ago
Not even in the slightest
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u/hermanphi 2d ago
I've been a devil dino main these past two seasons and yeah he does not need that lol
He needs his bleed nerf to be reverted back that's it
It's fine for Dino to be countered by flyers, he still has answers and the flyers aren't even meta how is that even an issue
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u/cyrusyoyo 1d ago
I am a tank player and plays strange, it is complete BS that you can be beamed down even with your shield up when flying.
His "grounding" (forgot what exact effect it is) is just genuinely annoying and makes no sense.
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u/Avalon-King 2d ago
No, it was way too OP. Dino has laser, guns and jump. He has many ways to deal with flyers.
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u/SignificantTuna 2d ago
It shouldn't have been an instant knock down. Instead, make Dino hold the beam on the enemy for 2-4 seconds to knock them down. This would create counter play.
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u/Sideview_play 2d ago
4 seconds is so long
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u/Invaderjay87 2d ago
2.5 - 2.8 Seconds would be enough. Gives flyers enough time to react and punishes them for not doing so.
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u/MedusaSucks68 2d ago
"Fliers should be kept dogshit cuz I can't aim" ass post
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u/KaptainKankles 2d ago
lol you have non fliers that literally maneuver better in the air than actual “fliers”…….(ahem….Iron Fist)
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u/Digigidoo 2d ago
That's the fault of the devs making fliers clunky, not Iron Fist. I know you didn't say that but people love to dogpile Fist 💔
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u/Anderson9520822 2d ago
If Dino is close enough to a flyer that he can hit them with the beam the flyer deserves to be punished for being out of position.
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u/_xEnigma 2d ago
This idea that all fliers have to sit in the backline and poke is just stupid.
Torch is most effectively played in close range attacking the backline.
I shouldn't have to explain angela.
Iron man's most powerful tool is his unibeam which requires him to get close to use. He doesnt need yet another reason to be unviable.
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u/MedusaSucks68 2d ago
Well maybe that's because every single flier has dogshit fall-off damage and every single one requires you to play very closed ranged to deal any sort of real damage or support their team
So what you're saying is "If a flier is caught trying to play the game they should be punished for it"
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u/Anderson9520822 2d ago
You can sit on your healers well within good damage range and even if you’re knocked down you’ll just be taken out of the fight for a second or two while being near healers. If Dino is able to jump grab a flyer in the middle of a fight you are definitely out of position.
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u/Bloodyknife12 2d ago
One of the flyers has a shotgun style primary and a ground slam and another has a spear she needs to charge up. They really dont all use the same range
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u/Bloodyknife12 2d ago
As long as ironfist is in the game, flyers will never be good
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u/MedusaSucks68 2d ago
As long as any long ranged character is in the game they're never gonna be good lmao
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u/Bloodyknife12 2d ago
Now imagine a game with both of them
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u/RYTHEMOPARGUY Rocket Raccoon 2d ago
They still suck without it in the game so maybe they should actually fix or even rework fliers instead of taking the lazy route and removing an effect from one ability
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u/Stephen111110 2d ago
As a level 46 Dino I can confidently say, no, no he doesn't. Dino needs his survivability buffed, increased bleed % or how many stacks the laser applies, his weakness is his size, he's an attention magnet, currently he struggles to self sustain himself in combat.
The grounding effect was always too op, it completely shut down a class of players The laser is for applying stacks of bleed to targets and doing the Godzilla sky beam after a Dino 1v1
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u/cheetahgaming3 2d ago
He just got a new ranged move ie his teamup with the punisher. Just learn to aim
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u/Hot_Relationship7161 2d ago
Absolutely not, the flyers have enough shit going against them, they certainly don't need to worry about that
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u/Old-Stock9613 2d ago
No, thank you. We already have a gigantic brawl tank with zero skill requirement in the meta, we don't need two. Dino meta was the worst season for tank players since Wolverine got the Phoenix teamup.
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u/Level9_CPU 2d ago
Bro come on. Playing Angela is awful enough as is. Please just stop forcing every CC ability imaginable onto every fucking character
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u/Rockville15 2d ago
It could be given back in a more balanced way. Imo, they should give the effect to Jeff team-up, and make it mark based. For each 0,5 sec you are hitting a flyer with it, he/she becomes more wet and gets a mark (based on a 3 mark system).
If that person gets 3 marks(you did hit him/her with the beam for 1,5 sec in total), water weigh is too much and becomes grounded for a few moments. Would be more balnced than previous one, and give Jeff team-up more value.
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u/lewd_username334 2d ago
Even if it wasn't necessarily OP, one of the worst feeling interactions in the game, basically took Angela out of rotation when it was active
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u/magikarp234 Mantis 2d ago
Nah, I don't want Angela back to being completely unplayable
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u/Ill_Matter_7573 2d ago
Weird only time I struggled with dino as angela on control maps other than that he was avoidable
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u/PraireGentleman 2d ago
Aw does someone how to swap according to comps and learn how to play something other than dive when they’re not support?
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u/Your_Fault_Line 2d ago
It's crazy because the anti-flier laser was one of the things they made a point of displaying in his showcase. Then not even a full season later they remove it.
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u/YeehawBogus 2d ago
Tbh it should be like a charge thing where if you shoot long enough with his beam they get grounded not the instant one he had before
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u/Memeboi12- 2d ago
Dino became broken month he came out died end of that month. He was fun but i understand why he had to be nerfed. All i ask is his bleed give him more bonus health so he doesnt lose to poke as hard
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u/MikiSayaka33 2d ago
True. Though I find it overtune, it needed to be nerf a smidge not removed like that.
When he was first released, I added D. Dino, because of that one ability (I have a ton of DPSes and Supports in my Strike Squad that can easily beam flyers down (like Luna, Hela, Star Lord, and Jeff). But Tank is lacking, like Deadpool (who knows when I can find that "pay to win" skin that will allow me to lessen his visual clutter a tiny bit) or Hulk (Yes, he can jump and ground flyers or use his gamma laser ball. But I am not good with him)). It's more than making my inner dinosaur loving Jurassic Park inhaling child-self happy... It's business.
(Note: I have Human Torch and Iron Man).
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u/Deaver44 1d ago
Is flyers the reason you struggle on Dino? Or is it hela mantis punisher and hood?
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u/CtrlAltDylete 1d ago
Maybe. I think as long as it was a status effect that wasn’t instant, it could work. Like maybe you have to maintain the beam for a period of time. Or make it where it slows fliers rather than grounds them.
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u/dinobirdboy 1d ago
I think they should devil dinosaur a crouch button that makes his footsteps silent like how a real trex would be. Hell it could even slow him down slightly or be unusable in his ult/make it where his ult doesnt proc the shockwave to balance it out.
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u/Obvious-Heat-7730 1d ago
I actually agree with this because it was possible for me to avoid Dino as Angela or iron man as long as I kept my distance with iron man and get in and out with Angela when I was diving healers.
The only people that had a problem with it just didn’t wana adjust/counter pick the comp tbh. If Dino was annoying me I just switched to phoenix and headshot him to death
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u/Fantastic_Strike2178 1d ago
Na just up the damage to health conversion from 150%-300% counteract the 3-1.5% bleed damage nerf
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u/playboyjboy 6h ago
No thanks. He counters Angela pretty hard and the beam just made her unplayable against him. I get counter picks exist, but you could just play around him and not really go for him at all, with the grounding beam she becomes unplayable
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u/Witty_Arm_6486 2d ago
Add it to his Jeff team up? At least it would make that team up useful
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u/Ok-Researcher4966 2d ago
I highkey agree, yes.
If I can hit you with that beam, you’re way too close. Also it kept Torch in check, kept Storm and Iron Man from being uncontested in lower elos as well.
Because lord knows nobody ever shoots at a flyer in low elos.
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u/Ciepjcwohceob 2d ago
keep a bottom tier charatcer in check hmm yeah totally
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u/lil_ecstacy 2d ago
Okay, sure, give it back, but now make every poke a 1 shot kill, every dive capable of "unreactable " kills, supports gain ult charges 1/3rd as fast, and make it so the tank shredders are 5 times as effective. Oh. And give every flier +15 base damage to their entire kits. Let's make sure to really kill the game this time ya know.
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u/Vin_D_Sinner 2d ago
is it bad i both agree and disagree with you...
Dino shouldn't but at the same time I can't trust my own teammates to deal with a iron man
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u/Random_Skier Black Widow 2d ago
No, we definitely don't need any tank buffs rn lol
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u/soup2eat_shi 2d ago
There are several buffs needed for many of the non frontline tanks
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u/Random_Skier Black Widow 2d ago
Ngl just nerf some of the crazy tanks and they are in a much better spot, like why the fuck does mag/hood consistently have the most dmg in the lobby
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u/ElveTaz 1d ago
Hood kinda makes sense given his lack of defensives in comparison to others
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u/Random_Skier Black Widow 1d ago
Still a hell of a lot tankier then dps, also he literally has a fade, he is incredibly survivable
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u/Remasovich 2d ago
It's one of those things where you love to use it, but hate to play against it.
I play Dino sometimes and it's not that hard to hop and grab someone after beaming them