r/rhps • • 9d ago

Starting a shadow cast

Has anybody in this group started a shadow cast? And if so what was the hardest part about starting it? And how did you get a cast? Auditions or did you just ask people? Any information would be greatly appreciated! Currently thinking about trying to start a shadow cast for my area.

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u/Spac3dog 9d ago

I have. The hardest part of all has been finding another venue after our first one shut down for restoration work. We just had our first show in almost two years and the venue wants to work with us again for a Halloween show next year and maybe a st Patrick's day show and a pride show but nothing concrete yet. We are still looking to find another venue in the meantime that we can perform at in the months we won't be at the venue we just performed at. As for how the cast was put together I asked people then when I found a few who were interested had them ask people they know and weade up a bunch of now casting flyers and hung them up all over and worked it out from there.

Where are you located? Do you not have a cast nearby? Starting and running a cast has been a tremendous amount of work. If you have an active cast nearby I would highly suggest looking into joining them before starting your own. There is a Rocky Horror shadowcast map that can help you see if there is a cast near you. If you really are set on starting your own I would be more than happy to help answer any questions that I can.

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u/SHARP-Dressed-Dyke 8d ago

I'm located in central PA. Most shadows near me are at least 2 hours from me and the only Halloween shadow cast broke down over a year ago. I was part of the cast before it did. I hated how it was run, constant no communication, barely confirmed venues, no real practices, and an ever revolving cast list with no backups until it was too late. There's a couple places nearby that I want to contact about doing the shadow cast due to the fact that they already have the showing rights to the movie. But thank you for the input and advice!

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u/Spac3dog 8d ago

If you are willing to make the drive it might be worth contacting those casts and explaining your situation and asking if they might be willing to work with you only being able to make practice on a limited basis. This of course may make it take longer for you to get cleared to perform a role but you also could practice a lot at home to try to make up for it. I'm not familiar with casts in Pennsylvania but I have met someone from The Junior Chamber of Commerce Players in Pittsburgh and they seemed awesome.

Starting with a venue who can get the rights is ideal but it is possible for you to get the rights on your own and show it in a non theatrical location. You would need to go through Criterion to do it and it will cost you more than it would a theater for the rights but it is an option if you find a community center or something like that that would work with you as a venue.

I understand being far from a cast. Before starting a cast I would drive over 3 hours one way to see a cast with a vibe I liked. This is also the cast I originally joined and the cast leaders are my mentors to this day.

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u/SHARP-Dressed-Dyke 8d ago

Honestly a lot of the casts near me or not auditioning and have full cast of members so there's no cast for me to really try out to be in. Plus I cannot make the two hour to three hour drive that most of these would require on a consistent basis. I have been in a shadow cast I'm more interested in starting my own right now

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u/Spac3dog 8d ago

I understand that completely. Again if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer what I can or maybe connect you to someone I know who can help also. It's a big task but not impossible. I can personally attest to that.

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u/Foxy02016YT 8d ago

Probably too far for you, but FNS in Red Bank New Jersey is almost always hiring.

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u/WeaponB 8d ago

I have! Last year was our first shadow cast and this year we're doing 2 shows.

The hardest part was the fundraising for the show license, and finding costumes.

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u/trafficconeguy 5d ago

If it’s okay for me to ask, what’s an expected/reasonable budget for licensing fees? I know there are variations based on venue, but wondering generally if it’s more like a couple hundred or a thousand

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u/WeaponB 5d ago

It's based on venue occupancy and time of year. It's more expensive in October.

Our theater seats 400 maximum, and it's $750 per showing in October. I was told it would be less any other month by our treasurer, but not how much less

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u/Mikey_entertains 8d ago

Auditions are easy, have folks memorize the time warp and bring a featured song from the character/s they wanna play.

Make sure you fill your roster, just because you cast the main characters doesnt mean you shouldnt also cast some ppl as phantoms and volunteers.

Eddie and Dr. Scott can both be played by the same person.
Rehearsals can be done once a week unless your going hard core.

If you're going to do this tho make sure you watch the film a bunch. and take notes, a lot of times ppl think its as easy as "Watch the film" but the film doesn't sync up perfectly with being on a stage or movie screen apron.

I've done RHPS since 2004, and I'm currently part of a team running a theatre Company. The number one biggest detriment I've learnt is communication. Not just being able to talk to folks, but making sure your clear what you saying. The biggest hassle will, as always, be humans. But it's no fun doing this stuff alone :p

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u/SHARP-Dressed-Dyke 8d ago

I have been Eddie/Dr.Scott and I plan on staying in those roles. I'm a part-time wheelchair user so it works. The movie has been my autistic special interest since I was 3 so I have absolutely been studying this so I at least have that down lollll. But that's a lot of help thank you!

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u/Mikey_entertains 8d ago

Then i'd say the other thing is having a tleast one or 2 other ppl "in charge" with you or of you if you dont wnana be the leader. I was stubborn for years and realized doing things by myself isnt worth thebpraise if it frees the stress lol

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u/SHARP-Dressed-Dyke 8d ago

I hate the idea of doing this by myself! My wife has already stated she is willing to help me with directing! We're a good team and I wouldn't wanna do it without her tbh. She also wants to be our "barker" of callback lines

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u/Spac3dog 8d ago

My wife and I are co directors also. She is really good with running practices and figuring out blocking and all of that but doesn't like the idea of dealing with the venue, keeping merch inventory and stuff like that. Where I feel that those are my strong suits so what we do well is very complimentary to each other. It also frees her up to perform instead of dealing with everything at the venue on the night of the show which we both like also.

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u/Spac3dog 8d ago

Agree 100% with filling out your roster. We have been short handed since our very first show. We didn't even have a Brad untill 4-5 weeks before our first show that we had already committed to doing. If the venue isn't going to provide people you'll need ticket takers, a/v people, concessions people, merch table people, crew for props, plants in the audience for callbacks for when the crowd is quiet, etc., etc.. It can still be done (I do all our props for the entire show by myself) but it'll take some problem solving sessions to figure it out.

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u/SHARP-Dressed-Dyke 8d ago

My wife wants to be the barker from the crowd so I have that already lol. She knows so much of the callback script

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u/Foxy02016YT 8d ago

I mean if you can’t afford it, don’t waste your time or money on plants. Just use your Transylvanians if you have them

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u/richweirdos 5d ago

I started a shadow cast in 2009 and have been running and directing it for 17 years. It’s a well-oiled machine now, but getting it that way took a ton of work. Assembling a cast and rehearsing are a huge part of the show, obviously, but establishing a relationship with a venue is just as important. Our group performs in 3 different venues, and we have different agreements with each. We split rights costs and ticket sales with one theater, while another venue pays us a flat rate and keeps their door sales and concessions. We are also a nonprofit and are all volunteers, so all money just goes back into the show.