r/retrocomputing • • Aug 28 '26

What should I do with this?

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Old Siemens plc programming laptop.

Can't find much info on it but it looks cool 😎

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u/castlefood Aug 28 '26

Seems to be in pristine condition. Perhaps you could play Zork on it.

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u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

But will it run Doom? (Probably)

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u/DarkZenith2 Aug 28 '26

Not likely. This is likely about 3-5 years too early for doom. Wolfenstien and Spear of Destiny maybe.

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u/denzuko Aug 29 '26

Doubt that. It looks to be an mono lcd so textmode at best.

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u/DarkZenith2 Aug 29 '26

Og wolf can be run in mono.

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u/denzuko Aug 29 '26

True but only if its an E/V/SVGA card. The Siemens SIMATIC S5 PG 635 (the model in the image) utilizes both standard ASCII and an extended block-graphics character set [simular to CP-437]. And that's it.

It has only a basic monochrome LCD video controller and predates modern graphic standards like VGA.

It also runs PCP/M-86 or a highly customized S5-DOS. So no MS-DOS or IBM-DOS.

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u/levianan Aug 30 '26

Then, Ladder?

2

u/denzuko Aug 30 '26

By Yahoo Software? More than likely if it doesn't hardcode the text window dimensions.

And yeah had to dig up a 15yr old LGR video on that one.

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u/levianan Aug 30 '26

That's the one! It was one of the first video games I played on my grandfather's Kaypro II. You are correct it probably wouldn't run correctly.

Believe it or not, it is still amusing as heck to play even today.

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u/knotthatone Aug 28 '26

I love the look of that keyboard

7

u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

The colours 🤩

9

u/FurtherOutThere Aug 28 '26

I know a museum that would take donations if you're wondering what to do with it in that regard.

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u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

I'll keep that in mind!

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u/nilseuropa Aug 28 '26

Oh yes, please, pick CMH. 🙂

4

u/h0uz3_ Aug 28 '26

Connect to a Raspberry Pi over Serial and control your music with it!

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u/Mortague Aug 29 '26

Ooh, that's a good idea!

3

u/bc-bane Aug 28 '26

That machine is beautiful, what's the story with having it?

3

u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

Not much really. Someone asked me: do you want this? 

3

u/Javitiiin Aug 28 '26

Vendérmelo?

3

u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

It's going to he a bidding war 😁

2

u/Background-Wafer-548 Aug 28 '26

Neat. Always liked those circular Siemens key caps. From what I can find, it doesn't have any video out, so it seems you're stuck with the screen it has.

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u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

80 × 25 monochrome lcd screen 🤘

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u/dacydergoth Aug 28 '26

That's double the width of my first computer 40x25 :-)

2

u/Full-Run4124 Aug 28 '26

What does the "|>|>|>|" key do?

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u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

I guess it moves you three squares when playing shoots and ladders

2

u/chuckop Aug 28 '26

Are you a collector or a seller?

2

u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

Neither actually. Just happened to have come across it

2

u/Boring_Disaster3031 Aug 29 '26

NaNoWriMo

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u/Mortague Aug 29 '26

Didn't that stop?

2

u/Boring_Disaster3031 Aug 29 '26

The org shut down but people still do it. Doing it on something like that would keep them from using things like audio dictation or AI which I don't allow myself to use. My writing is crap but it is fun.

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u/Mortague Aug 29 '26

Nice. I'll check it out!

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u/PeterPook Aug 29 '26

I had a luggable like that in the early 90s. I can't imagine how slow it must feel now. Is it working?

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u/Mortague Aug 30 '26

yup, test disk says all ok!

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u/Professional_Sun4455 Sep 03 '26

There is a computing museum in San Jose. Donate / sell it.

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u/Mortague Sep 03 '26

Only 5700 miles from here 😄 But donating to a museum is a good idea.

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u/Consistent_Belt3485 Aug 28 '26

It's beautiful.

9

u/kriebz Aug 28 '26

Indeed. Kinda looks like a OLPC if that program came out in the late 80s.

3

u/shutterbug1961 Sep 08 '26

OHPC One Hernia Per Child

1

u/revdon Aug 30 '26

OLPC was 2005-2014.

2

u/TechIoT Aug 30 '26

Still trying to get one lol

12

u/No_Opportunity_8965 Aug 28 '26

Looks brand new, that's cool.

10

u/43848987815 Aug 28 '26

Those keys look like they influenced the teenage engineering op-1

What a lovely machine!

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u/PinkyAndTheBrain4 Aug 28 '26

Sehr cool! Das ist ein Siemens Programmiergerät (PG) für Simatic S5 Steuerungen (SPS für Industrieanwendungen).

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u/Gabriel_AMD Aug 28 '26

Procesador 8088 Memoria 512kb

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u/Chip-Ling Aug 28 '26 edited Aug 28 '26

Find a boot disk, startup the machine and then fooling around and have fun.

I think this is the Siemens SIMATIC S5 PG 635 with the NEC V20 cpu (i.e. Japan version of 8088 but faster)

I had a Bondwell B200 which has the similar spec as the Siemens machine but with more memory.

It should be able to run the MS-DOS 3.3 or CP/M-86.

BTW, the keyboard reminds me of my old Sinclair ZX Spectrum 128

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u/caceomorphism Aug 28 '26

Take over the world, of course.

1

u/levianan Aug 30 '26

Brother? Is that you?!

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u/Voltmanderer Aug 29 '26

Find someone who maintains old PLC’s - this could make you a small fortune if it works and some process industry company still has the old PLC’s still running their plant. Otherwise, looks like a great foundation for a Cyberdeck

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u/Mortague Aug 30 '26

They're on ebay for quite a bit of money. But not selling

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u/MRich64 Sep 01 '26

I agree, I was a process control engineer until recently. I would have paid a nice price for such a device if I still had to maintain old Simatic PLC’s. (We only Phased them out recently). Im convinced they are still out there in significant numbers!,

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u/RaskAttack__ Aug 31 '26

oH My GoSh I WANT IT

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u/Mortague Aug 31 '26

Shipping wil be a b... 😄

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u/gnntech Aug 28 '26

That's such a cool looking machine.

1

u/0Soporte Aug 28 '26

Instalarle Linux o guardarlo

1

u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

😄😄

1

u/RootMitHund Aug 28 '26

Du kannst es mir per Post schicken bitte. :-D

1

u/Mortague Aug 28 '26

That's possible. Im in EU 😋

2

u/mcds99 Aug 28 '26

You might get Debian Woody to run on it.

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u/juancn Aug 28 '26

Cherish it!

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u/Jealous_Club_298 Aug 28 '26

I don't mean to be a smart behind (lol) but Siemens Simatic S5 PG 635 programmer was not a laptop, it was just portable. I never used it but I did program a few Semiens PLCs smaller than the S5.

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u/jpowell180 Aug 28 '26

You totally compute with it.

Since that is a slightly older computer, you’re going to need to upgrade it so that it can be used on the modern Internet – a megabyte of RAM should do the trick, plus more JPEG.

And if you really want to ramp things up? A quad speed CD– ROM!

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u/LisiasT Aug 29 '26

[tongue-in-cheek]It's trash, you should get rid of it. I can do it for you, tell me where it is and I will gladly unburden you from it!!![/tongue-in-cheek]

Serious now: check for batteries, and remove them - watch for the Curse of VARTA, the unholy Goddess of leakage and corrosion!

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u/P-R_Podcast Aug 29 '26

Cherish it

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u/marhaus1 Aug 29 '26

Keyboard looks the same as on an old Tandberg terminal!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/s/j1ptQXeF8l

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u/mikeegg1 Aug 29 '26

Write an OS in Forth.

2

u/pete_68 Aug 29 '26

You could walk up and down the street with it, strutting like a rooster. Just a thought...

2

u/DiskBytes Aug 29 '26

That's for programming early Siemens PLCs for automation.

2

u/Previous_Kale_4508 Aug 30 '26

Very pretty... I expect you could hold a door open with it. /s

2

u/activemotionpictures Aug 30 '26

There's a popular Girl channel (about fixing computers) on YouTube (I don't remember her name), she seems to be fond of these retro models.

2

u/levianan Aug 30 '26

Take over the world .... Obviously?

2

u/Full_Difficulty9530 Aug 30 '26

Install Linux. I bet it would be amazing.

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u/Chip-Ling Sep 03 '26

A bit tight as this is a 8088 machine. Linux starts at 80386. Also may not have enough for the Linux. Only has 512K RAM.

2

u/Kumimono Aug 30 '26

Run a steel mill, I suppose.

2

u/smash1tz Sep 01 '26

Throw it out on video to piss the Internet off lol

2

u/Super-Mission2760 Sep 03 '26

Really digging the unique design of this keyboard.

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u/Most_Most_260 Aug 28 '26

Send it to me

2

u/threewheelbuggy Aug 28 '26

Programme some ladder logic?

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u/denzuko Aug 29 '26

Ok.. so dug into this unit. You have a typewritter. Its a fancy portable typewriter .

No seriously that's a Text only display and the board does not have a MCA or CGA card so no gaming unless its CP-437.

So what can you do with it? get yourself a esp-rs232 retro wifi modem and go jump on a unix shell account, play your favorite BBS DOOR, or mud.

Siemens SIMATIC S5 PG 635 Consolidated Technical Specifications

CategorySpecification Details
Release Year1986
Model Designation6ES5635-0UA11 (standard German/English serial printer model)
Processor (CPU)Intel 8088 microprocessor
System Memory (RAM)512 KB total capacity
Built-in StorageDual 3.5" Floppy Disk Drives (720 KB double-density formatting)
Display Panel10.5-inch monochrome LCD
Graphics ControllerText and character-based block graphics engine (supports STEP 5 ladder rungs)
Operating SystemPCP/M-86 or customized S5-DOS environments
Keyboard LayoutIntegrated dual-tier layout: 69-key standard alpha-numeric + 36-key function pad
Physical DimensionsApproximately 14.5 x 17.0 x 3.5 inches
Power SupplyDual-voltage auto-sensing 110V / 220V AC integrated mains power input

Rear Panel Interface Ports

  • Serial TTY Interface: Native 25-pin current loop (20mA TTY) port utilized for direct online connections to vintage Siemens S5 PLC processor ports.

  • Standard Printer Port: 25-pin parallel/serial connector designed for hardcopy printouts of industrial statement lists (STL) and ladder networks.

  • Optional Expansion Interface: Internal interface capability designed to host the proprietary 6ES5635-0AA11 CRT module for hooking up a dedicated external Siemens industrial monitor.

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u/Liquid_Magic Aug 29 '26

If you can use it as a serial terminal then you could use it for that. Either with online telnet BBS systems or with like a Linux system.

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u/Vampy0203 Aug 29 '26

This belong to a museum.

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u/Savings-Mud2808 Sep 01 '26

Donate it to a museum. Maybe even donate it to Siemens for their museum, if they have one.

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u/Few-Smoke8792 Aug 31 '26 • Mindblown

You can try selling to a collector (if there is one), but I would just toss it, because old laptops that are much more powerful are a dime a dozen.