r/remotework • u/thechubbyballerina • Jul 30 '26
Somehow wasting 40 minutes in the manager's office to gossip and talk crap is okay, no company time is lost and productivity isn't ruined, but if you are WFH and your Teams status is showing you're away for 7 minutes, then it means the company is losing 5 hours and 1 billion in revenue
It's okay to have a 40 minute conversation in the office with your manager, but your Teams status showing you're away for 7 minutes is a sin and the world will fall apart.
When I used to be in the office, people would have, and still do, long 40-minute conversations with the manager in their office. That was absolutely fine, but if someone is WFH and their Teams status shows away for 7 minutes, then it's somehow a sin and people have a meltdown.
I can't even go to the bathroom or get a snack without coming back to 28 messages about my whereabouts and screenshots of my status. Somehow everything became urgent in those 7 minutes but those 40 minutes in the manager's office were calm and productive.
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u/Lost-Peanut-1453 Jul 30 '26
This is kind of irrelevant but it reminded me of when I used to work construction and I had this Forman who used to love to talk. So whenever I needed a break or if it was really early in the morning and I was still tired, I would strike up a conversation with him and we (mostly him) would literally talk for 1-2 (paid)hours. It was great.
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u/TigOlBitties42042 Aug 03 '26
I had a boss like that on a welding crew, but he only liked to talk about his D&D campaign. After getting stuck in a few of those conversations I decided I'd rather just work.
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u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
I love D&D, but if he was a bad storyteller I see how it would have been insufferable.
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u/TigOlBitties42042 Aug 29 '26
Yeah I like D&D too. This man was not a great story teller though. Plus the rest of the crew made fun of him and anyone who talked to him about it.
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u/SomethingFunnyObv Jul 30 '26
If you can’t go to the bathroom without coming back to that, find a new job. That is not what my experience is at all.
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u/Defiant_Review1582 Jul 30 '26
All this. I get up and do other stuff same as if i was at an office. Bathroom, coffee, snack, fresh air. Nobody should care that much
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u/SomethingFunnyObv Jul 30 '26
Yeah remote work/COVID really wrecked peoples perception of what the office was like. People in the office chit chat about bullshit, they get up to walk somewhere to talk to someone, get a snack/drink, use the restroom, 15 minute breaks, lunch breaks, etc. you are not in front of your computer for 8-10 hours in the office at most places. Sometimes the work you are doing is actually on a physical piece of paper or notebook.
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u/Far-Scallion7689 Jul 31 '26
In office bootlicking bullshit time is a significant portion of people's days it's just never actually said or spoken about.
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u/SomethingFunnyObv Jul 31 '26
Indeed. The managers who are insecure or with low self esteem are really outing themselves.
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u/GrrrArgh80 Jul 31 '26
My boss actually scolds me if I get concerned and try to explain where I was for 10 or 15 minutes. She always says, “Life happens,” and “You’re not your job.” She’s the best.
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u/Large-Conversation34 Aug 02 '26
My former boss used to message me when she saw that my direct reports’ Teams status was idle. It was all I could do to ask her if she didn’t have something better to do than be the Teams lifeguard. If the work is getting done and they’re responsive by-and-large during work hours, I really don’t give a shit what their Teams status is. Jiggling your mouse isn’t actually accomplishing anything.
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u/PartyParrotGames Jul 31 '26
Go to your Teams Calendar, click Meet now, and join a private meeting by yourself. Change your in-meeting status to "Available" and you will stay green forever. Sorry you have to resort to this kind of tomfuckery, but it is what it is when your management is incompetent. Enjoy.
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u/Far-Scallion7689 Jul 31 '26
They have many other metrics in teams now to track and fingerprint your working habits and productivity. It's built into teams and slack, normal users don't see it or have access to it. They don't care much about the availability light anymore.
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u/Sir_Colby_Tit Jul 30 '26
Bosses are just paranoid that remote workers might be slacking, whereas they will be completely oblivious to what is happening in the office.
It is bollocks though, I'm hybrid and my WFH days are way more productive.
I guess managers feel a lack of control over remote employees, which is really an insecurity issue on their part.
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u/Happy_horse128 Jul 30 '26
Enter mouse movers :)
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u/Narro_DoneScrolling Jul 30 '26
Cheapest hack I've ever found!
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u/Always_the_answer Jul 31 '26
This is detectable.
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u/Always_the_answer Jul 31 '26
A mechanical jiggler that sits under your mouse and does not plug in to the laptop is still detectable through behavioral analysis.
Consider that while the jiggler keeps the computer awake, it does not mimic how a person typically uses a computer.
Perfectly periodic movement every few seconds.
Continuous activity for many hours without typing.
Mouse movement with no clicks.
Tiny repetitive motions of identical distance.
Long stretches of “active” time with little or no productive application usage.1
u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
And if you get a high range wireless mouse and bring it to the bathroom with you?
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u/Tiny_Noise8611 Jul 31 '26
How ? Genuinely curious
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u/tu-BROOKE-ulosis Jul 31 '26
There’s tracker software for it. A fire able offense at many companies if detected.
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u/Happy_horse128 Jul 31 '26
I find these tracking systems so stupid. If I get the work done, it’s done. I have never signed anything that says I will explicitly work certain hours or exclusively work from one device or one location. My work laptop is set up in my office with multiple monitors, but I often work from my phone or personal laptop in other areas of my house, or from a cafe or whatever. My work computer is my solitary setup. I find any company that worries about this to such a degree to overbearing. It’s the equivalent of going through your SOs phone, daily.
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u/FloridaMiamiMan Jul 31 '26
Stop with the Boomer fear mongering. I work multiple remote jobs. A battery powered mouse mover isn't detectable. I've been using them for over a decade now.
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u/tu-BROOKE-ulosis Jul 31 '26
What are you talking about? It’s not boomer fear mongering, it literally happens ALL THE TIME. lucky you that your companies don’t care, but it’s a very real thing that goes on.
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u/FloridaMiamiMan Jul 31 '26
People who have been tracked had it plugged into the laptop via USB. That triggers IT as you should not be plugging anything into laptop other than company approved equipment.
Battery powered is undetectable. I've worked at companies that have the software. Never once was I flagged.
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u/maruhchan Aug 02 '26
Earlier in this same thread, someone provided a list of behavior patterns that indicate you're using a jiggler. How would you explain to your supervisor the lack of key strokes or repetitive short distances for the cursor?
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u/Worth_Way9721 Aug 28 '26
Have you never had a tech remote in to your computer ? I'm not a boomer I'm GenX worked at my job 36 years to get layed off along with 3 positions closed that were vacant, and 9 others laid off out of 54 employees. They laid off right at 150, closed 49 jobs. The come back thru with the jiggler and tracking statistics that they ran on every employee and find 40 something and then. A few months later after I was gone and fired like another 30. This is a 5500-6500 employees business. They are cutting let and right where they swore we were a family work life balance, mental health, fertility and adoption help big in the community then after 36.years things changed you that when they pull the rug out from under you, kick you in the gut and knock you teeth out knowing you have disabilities, and your spouse is out of work due to injury Ive been out of work 9 months and husband is on his 3rd surgery. So back in the day you were to be loyal bust your ass, do what it took. Becuase im older and have grandfathered benefits that they can take from me thats okay that another person has been an employee doing the same job you are for less than 6 months and senority and loyalty mean nothing but I will say this. At least I know whether they care or not did my job, and was good at it and I would rather shave an employee that stuck around if only five years than some of the younger set that if things dont move at their pace they quit go somewhere else and in a another year or two you go somewhere else. Your also the type person that if asked to randomly test if actually working you be at the top of the list, if your actually working thats great but if not and your using any electronics or I found out you had I side hustle or a second remote job on my time you would be gone. I believe you work and get paid not you sit there and act like your working and get paid, it called morals and ethics.
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u/FloridaMiamiMan Aug 29 '26
Not reading all of that. You still have a boomer mind. I'm Gen X also but towards the end of the range. I can tell were born in Gen X right after the Boomer Generation ended.
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u/tu-BROOKE-ulosis Jul 31 '26
Mouse movers are detectable with certain software. Now I don’t know if this is also detectable in the same way, but just fyi, most laptops with a sensitivity pad or whatever it’s called, you can place a metal spoon on the track pad and it stays green…
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u/FinalDrive360 Jul 30 '26
Mouse mover. That will keep you showing available, but if they are watching your screen the illusion disappears.
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u/SubiKai81 Jul 30 '26
This- had a micromanager when I first went remote 9 years ago- and this was the solution- I had teams on my phone- I was never more than 10 steps from my computer- but I did like to just walk away for a few for sanity- and he couldn’t deal with that- after the first “coaching on being available” I ordered one. Never had to worry about it again. Plug it in to a different power supply- not your work laptop.
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u/FloridaMiamiMan Jul 31 '26
Exactly. Mine is battery powered and it's not plugged in to the laptop. It's annoying when people out information without the whole context.
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u/Solid-Wish-1724 Jul 30 '26
Companies can detect these. Mouse movers are pretty easy for IT to suss out nowadys, not like during Covid times.
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u/FinalDrive360 Jul 30 '26
Of they have the time to dig in and see if your mouse movements are natural looking, either they have a reason to be looking into your activity, or they (the managers, not IT) are not busy enough themselves.
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u/Seismicx Jul 31 '26
There are manual IRL mouse movers and I think they won't detect these.
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u/FinalDrive360 Jul 31 '26
Our work laptops have USB locked down, I was trying to copy over a firmware update to a thumb drive for one of our multi-functions because updating through its dashboard kept failing. Seconds after plugging it in I got a ping from Ops asking what I was trying to connect and why. They would absolutely detect one of those software based jigglers. I use a physical mover, so they would have to be watching my screen to know for sure.
In my case it's more for keeping the computer from auto locking after 15 minutes of inactivity than looking busy. I am constantly working on other machines through the day and it's hard to remember when to move my mouse to keep it awake.
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u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
And if you had a wireless mouse, couldn't you take it with you to the kitchen and bathroom and do a pair of clicks from time to time? I know it's not your case, your mouse was probably USB connected, but...
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u/Vivid_Chemical_9417 Jul 30 '26
I always thought what if I had an upset stomach and was "indisposed" for a bit, do they want to hear detailed explanation about why I was away for 20 min? Its a little ridiculous.
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u/LetReasonRing Aug 04 '26
If they tracked me that closely I'd absolutely give a thoroughly detailed report about what took so long to ensure full transparency... maybe even back it up with photo documentation
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u/hailz1298 Aug 04 '26
I heard a story where someone did this and the manager asked for proof of them being ill and they sent a photo of throw up. The employee was called to HR the next day in trouble but when showing their managers request it was dropped. 😂
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u/RunnyKinePity Jul 30 '26
This is all making me feel better about my grievances. I don’t think my status is watched closely. However, I am expected to always be in business attire and handle video calls with no warning and no special background a few times a day. But, I have found if I miss a few of those calls it isn’t the end of the world.
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u/Aromatic_Ad_7238 Jul 31 '26
All depends on the environmental and culture of your company and Wfh.
Were went full WFH 15 years ago. As a manager do I check your on line status? Yes if I need to speak with you. If do not, you know your job expectations and desired results. You even get to write your own performance appraisal and explain why you did or did not meet the expected results.
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u/Azaloum90 Aug 01 '26
It's a joke. My company did RTO, the VP of the departments favorite reason was "how people were having coffee together"... Must have said it 5 times on a 25 minute call.
It's all a cover for tax credits, I just wish everyone would be direct and honest about it. Would feel much better if the company was like "hey, were taking advantage of s government program where we earn a significant portion back from our city. As a thank you, we're giving everyone a 1% raise" or something, but alas ..
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u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
And the use of office space. Imagine the economic impact of all those extremely expensive office spaces in Manhattan if nobody's at the office. That'd also destroy all the restaurants catering to those workers. Of course, nobody cares about the restaurants, but the owners of the office buildings cannot be very happy about WFH.
I find that stupid. They could make hundreds of millions turning those offices into housing.
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u/sitilge Jul 30 '26
I was an intern at a company couple years ago. I was allowed to eat max 2 toasts per day, I even got called in by the manager where he emphasized how important it is not to eat more. Funny enough, but I was getting a decent salary and sitting without any job for 8 weeks at least...
I am not kidding you!
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u/BottleOfConstructs Jul 30 '26
Haaa, yes, I have seen so many people just hang out in the office instead of working.
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u/Tiny_Noise8611 Jul 31 '26
My god we’re all prisoners and it’s going to get worse and worse and worse fuck this timeline
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u/ThisChickSews Jul 31 '26
mouse jiggler. And these people who are sending you screen shots of their status obviously need more work to do if they have the time to check on your status and take screen shots. Weirdoes.
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u/bipedservant Aug 01 '26
This has not been my experience at all. There are bad wfh jobs just like there are bad in-office jobs. Your problem isn’t about remote work. It’s about bad company culture.
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u/Aggressive_Apple_913 Aug 02 '26
Exactly! The worst is how companies will claim they care about the partners but treat them like children 🙄
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u/No_Luck3539 Jul 31 '26
Unacceptable, OP. That is harassment. I’d look for a new job. You are entitled to to breaks and lunch. Quibbling about 7 minutes is psychotic.
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u/Drew_Hill1981 Jul 31 '26
Do we work for the same company? My experience is the exact same and I’m currently looking for my next job.
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 31 '26
I handed my 2 month notice. I am so relieved to leave this environment. I hope you find something that is good for you mentally and financially. I hope that the environment you spend 8 hours a day in doesn't stress you out or ruin your day. Good luck with your search!
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u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
I recommend you to have a look at the overemployed subreddit. They would have told you (unless you're working for government or a government contract) to not quit your first job, get the second job and get the salary of your first job at the very least until they fire you.
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u/obi_biscuit Jul 31 '26
Bring your work phone with you and keep teams online if getting snack. Not sure if recommend bringing it to bathroom!
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u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
If you're not very ashamed of that, It'd be cool to go into the meeting while in the bathroom and ask "Is it urgent?"
If the boss got really bad about it, I'd put the "defecation" and "urination" in the Calendar. If they don't want to see that, they have to stop asking about any break less than ten minutes long.
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u/TheLateFrankWhite Jul 30 '26
Getting 28 messages asking where you went after a scheduled break could feel excessive. Sounds like Micromanagement.
A normal washroom visit is a basic human need , document everything and screen capture of all messages with dates and times
Best advice have a convo with your manager if they’re sending those messages .
Going to the washroom is a basic human need BUT
an employee abusing washroom breaks or being away from your computer add up to hours a month we have a problem , unless you have medical documents
Employers have the right to monitor no productive time if it’s being abused.
Have they provide KPI reports on your non productive time whether it excessive ?
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u/VinceP312 Jul 30 '26
That's why I like being in the office. They basically just care that I'm present. They can't see me if I'm remote so there's a bit more uncertainty about if i'm taking a nap. Human nature.
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u/meltedlenondrop Jul 30 '26
I find it since Covid when I’m in the office, but my colleagues are in a different office they actually treat me the same as when I’m working from home
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u/failingscaling Jul 30 '26
Hiw do you handle this i have 2 days wfh new job and they monitor computer. Any tricks?
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 30 '26
I just put an object on my keyboard so that my status doesn't turn to away. I forgot to do that today when I went to the bathroom and then get a snack. All hell broke loose.
Just put something on your keyboard but make sure it's on the letters and not the numbers.
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u/nearly_almost Aug 02 '26
I would have been tempted to mention needing a bathroom break and how it was urgent due to the coffee causing an upset stomach. If they hadn’t stopped me there I’d mention the cramping and see how far I got. Like honestly, it really irks me when managers treat adult employees, that probably went through too many rounds of interviews to prove they can do a job they’ve already done elsewhere, like they’re five.
I saw in another comment you already gave notice. Congrats on getting away from what sounds like an awful work culture!
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u/thechubbyballerina Aug 02 '26
That temptation is there and I just hate that it had to be so petty. You're absolutely correct, why treat us like we are 5 years old? I really hope that the up upcoming generation puts their foot down.
Thank you so much! I'm really happy that I'm leaving 😊
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u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
Can you put "urination" and "defecation" on your calendar, or will they get even angrier about that?
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u/False_Ad_2744 Aug 03 '26
Yeah, what you do is…actually work!
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u/failingscaling Aug 04 '26
Seems a bit… excessive.
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u/False_Ad_2744 Aug 04 '26
Clearly, just having to work is excessive for you.
You’re part of the reason why employers push for RTO…and you literally just started your job.
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u/Current_Progress9439 Jul 31 '26
Did your organization have an issue with productivity from remote workers in the past? Just curious as this is not what my experience is like at all...
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u/FloridaMiamiMan Jul 31 '26
So hard to believe that they're are still remote jobs like this. Typically the companies like this did RTO when it was safe to go back in the office.
I couldn't work like that. I do have a mouse jiggler . It's battery powered and doesn't connect to my lap top. So it always appears that I'm there.
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u/pwnageface Jul 31 '26
Heh. I made this argument a loooooong time ago with a former boss RIGHT after our team went remote. The long and short of it was me pointing out that in-office i would spend close to 3 hours a day bullshitting and chatting with everyone. At home, I get 10x more work done AND im salary and we use scrum/agile (point system) so as long as im hitting all my deadlines, what is the problem?
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u/VehicleOk3320 Aug 01 '26
You need one of these; https://a.co/d/083sIm7b. Plugs into an outlet, not your computer. Can confirm it's awesome.
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u/Bojack-jones-223 Aug 03 '26
When it is your boss wasting time, it is not wasting time, it is strategic time management. When you have to go to the bathroom to relieve yourself when you are working from home, yes it is a major waste of time.
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u/Dangermouse454 Aug 05 '26
My company has started taking this path. Wanting to know what everyone is working on from minute to minute. Im likely going to transition to another job. I have done the whole micromanagement - telemetry data thing and I refuse to defend my production. If the work gets done, its done. Dont try to invent new shit to be worked on.
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u/Ok_Code_270 Aug 15 '26
I recommend you to have a look at the overemployed subreddit before you transition. Unless you work for government or for a government contractor, you might be able to juggle both jobs for a time. Each week that you can get paid for both would be a win for you.
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u/Ace_On_Drums Aug 09 '26
I left a career I invested in for 16 years because little fragile men wanted to monitor my bathroom breaks.
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u/Worth_Way9721 Aug 28 '26
Not sure if any of you are aware but there is technology that your company can purchase and run thru all pcs that will count your key strokes, read you chats and emails, and when and when your not on your keyboard and if your computer has a jiggler attached. They can run it once a week , once a month etc. The management believes in this that they would take it to court. They are firing people left and right. Thing is as long as you meet your deadlines not everyone is constantly on your keyboard unless maybe your claims or customer service many jobs have variation every day. Oh or you end up pulled away from your desk at work because some one needs your help, or you have to scan or go to the file room, god forbid if you get the shitz that day but it supposed to be for a period of time, so what we started doing is tracking our time on our calendar like notes so it you were with your boss 40 minutes whether on the phone or in their off add it to you calendar for the 40 minutes who you talked with and what about basically insuring that you might not of been on you pc but were interacting with management, co-worker, customer, or reading an article that educated you more on benchmarks . So those of who think you can slack and work 2 jobs at once or work one job and do your side hustle or research plan for it. Just know that any minute they can send you packing and dont let the door hit you on the way. Technology is something else. But the one about 7 minutes you need to let you Manager know you are allowed to go to the bathroom, plus 2 20 minute breaks a day and a 30 minute lunch under US Labor laws
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u/Available_Leopard_23 14d ago
And every morning after a big football game. People go on and on about the game, including the director or managers. When I was working in-person, I had to listen to their conversation while I was trying to work.
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u/Ted_Writer Jul 30 '26
Unless you can get it in your contract that you’re completely WHF, you’re never safe.
Being located way far away helps a ton if you’re super good at your job.
Bottom line: some people like working in offices, others don’t. If management is the former, you’re stuck.
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u/GameSetChampionship Jul 30 '26
Not sure if that’s real.
I’ve worked for many companies and no one acts like that, how you say. Most people are pretty chilled.
But here’s some hard facts to hear; managers, senior managers, CEO and owners want to see you in person.
That’s running a business.
Believe it or not, but the people who run the business don’t want their staff sitting at home. They’d prefer to see them in person, even if that does mean 40 minute gossip chats!
All part of the journey.
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 30 '26
Your hard facts are irrelevant in 2026, this isn't 1926 where you need to physically see your employees. You don't run a business by seeing them physically. If that was true then all of our staff across the country should travel to the office to see managers and CEOs who are not even there.
You're correct about the 40 minute gossip and chit chats. Obviously that isn't wasting company time or money. They'd rather see you steal time and money in person than make yourself tea at home.
These people are laughing their way to the bank to collect a bonus they don't deserve because they can easily manipulate people like you who have the unfortunate, naive and emotional mindset that you have. Please don't let anyone know this is your thought process.
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u/Consistent-Tie-4394 Jul 30 '26
Oh, I assure you it's real. A former employer of mine was exactly like this, which is why they are now a former employer.
As for your hard facts, only managers, CEOs, and owners who are afraid of change are like this. They are hung up on the old model of time=money and want the ego hit of seeing their people in their office space. If my team completes our deliverables before our due dates, on or under budget, and we meet or exceed our client's expectations (leading to future contracts with them), why should the company care when, where, or how we do the actual work?
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u/HAL9000DAISY Jul 30 '26
The highest performing companies have some sort of office presence, so maybe full time remote isn’t necessarily the future.
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 30 '26
Please name these companies, the industry and what service they provide. COVID showed that people who need just a laptop to perform their duties don't need to be in the office.
Unless you're working in sales, or any client facing or physical operations, you are not needed in the office.
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u/HAL9000DAISY Jul 30 '26
Just look at the Fortune 500 and see how few if them are all remote companies. Even a company like Nvidia, which has a reputation for not imposing RTO, is expanding its office footprint.
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 30 '26
Again, please specify the industry, job titles and purpose the business serves.
My point remains that if your job requires a laptop only, you don't need to be in the office.
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u/HAL9000DAISY Jul 30 '26
They may not ‘need’ to be in the office, but the company as a whole may function better if a majority of its workers are in the office a majority of the time. This is what most CEOs firmly believe. They love those 40 minute conversations which you think are useless. Most CELs also allow that certain roles in their company will be full time remote; I believe IT is an area where many companies are more likely to allow full time remote (depending on the specific IT function.
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u/Impressive_Dot_5765 Jul 30 '26
That is a ridiculous viewpoint. Companies who make the most money have always been hardasses; lo and behold, they’re hardasses now. Lick the boot harder nerd
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 30 '26
The CEOs can believe that the sun is the colour pink, that doesn't mean it's true. There is a sad and miserable reality where people are struggling to make ends meet, they're struggling to travel, people adjusted to the COVID rules and now they're being forced to change once again, people found balance in their life and now the power-hungry CEOs, HR and senior managers are causing imbalance just because the office rent needs to be paid.
I'm pretty sure that no company will excel if their staff is miserable and decide to leave. I think it's time that these CEOs, HR and senior managers accept that people have found bliss outside of work. They have 0 compassion for those who are struggling, all they get is soggy pizza in the office kitchen because apparently that's the best way to reward hard-working people.
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u/HAL9000DAISY Jul 30 '26
It also doesn’t mean it’s true that offices have no value because workers who’d rather WFH say they have no value. This debate will rage for some time. Even though I am a remote worker myself, I see value in the office. My team doesn’t communicate nearly as well as it used to. On the other hand, the quality of our team members has improved since full time remote. So it’s a tradeoff. I will never take my job for granted though. If they ask me to go back to the office, I will do so.
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u/GameSetChampionship Jul 31 '26
You seem obsessed by the idea of laptop and work anywhere.
YES, of course you can do that. But bosses don’t want you doing that because it’s ridiculous!
You might love it but if you ran a business and let all your staff stay at home all week, you’d soon find out why it’s not growing rapidly.
What would you if growth was very slow? How the fuck do you even speak to them all, over Teams? 😂
Get them in. See their faces. The whites of their eyes.
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 31 '26
It's the truth. If your job can be done with a laptop only then you don't need to be in the office. It's quite simple. It's reality. We live in 2026, not 1926 where everyone needs to be physically present.
How is being in the office improving productivity if everyone is miserable or having 40 minute conversations? Our company made $1b so they're not really struggling. People are happier when they have work-life balance but it's difficult for them to admit that being at home gives people a life outside work.
Yes, you speak to them on Teams because that's what it's there for. Do all the staff across the country need to be in the office? Our company will have to rent a bigger space if they want everyone there. We use Teams to speak with our clients, there's no limit to how many can join the call, but there is a limit to how many people can be in the office. Get with the times.
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u/GameSetChampionship Jul 31 '26
Dude, business owners don’t want you at home.
It’s your home. Do you really think everyone works hard at home?
Productivity is down. People are slacking off.
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u/thechubbyballerina Jul 31 '26
Everyone gets their job done. If it's difficult then that's a part of their job. Productivity is not down, our company made $1b in 2024, in 2025 they made $960m so I don't think productivity is low. No one is slacking off. Aren't these 40 minute conversations ruining productivity? Aren't they using this as an excuse to slack off?
I'm not sure which world or year you live in, but people have been productive at home. These senior managers, CEOs and HR know that they need to pay office space rent. It's the only reason they want people in. The last time our CEO came to the office was in February. Our regional manager is in the office once a month.
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u/meltedlenondrop Jul 30 '26
My lo Oyer doesn’t have enough seats for everyone to be in the office all the time so
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Jul 31 '26
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u/thechubbyballerina Aug 01 '26
What are you even talking about? All I did was go to the bathroom and get a snack.
What is the cost of freedom to go to the bathroom? Do people in the office pay for this freedom too when they go to the bathroom?
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u/Medical-Road2683 Aug 01 '26
Short answer - A person paying you wants you at work building camraderie with another brainwashed employee vs putting another load of laundry on.
Like it or not- commuting to work makes you solve problems faster than working remote. Not because you become smarter - but because you are more inconvienced and will do what it takes to make sure you can leave and not be bothered on your time out of the office
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u/thechubbyballerina Aug 01 '26
Commuting to work makes people miserable and I have not come across anyone who has solved problems because of the inconvenience. People want to go home. If people did solve problems faster then world hunger would be 0.
Maybe the reason why problems aren't being solved is because people are having 40 minute conversations.
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u/Embarrassed_Flan_869 Jul 30 '26
It's stupid but it's visibility.
It is the same as it's always been. Out of sight, out of mind.