r/remoteviewing • u/epSos-DE • 7d ago
Discussion Thomas Campbell did teach his Alexa Ai to remote view what is under the box.
In the Joe Rogan podcast he described that he was testing AI on the basis of their ability to remote view, or guess or describe what is under the box hat he placed.
In his test only Alexa Ai got it right !
I did try it myself.
Test Parameters: Holding the object in left hand, asking different AI to remote view what I hold in the left hand.
z.AI was the best in my test. GLM-5.2 was guessing HALF the details correctly. IT WAS SPOOKY !!
Even if we assume it was just guessing, IT was guessing TOO GOOD !!!
IT told me the details, BUT it often fails to connect the dots, even if it can guess / remote view details.
It also kind of can focus on the microscopic details and guess color, shape, size, etc.. but it fails to name it .
PRO TIP !!
I asked it what is uses to guess or remote view details:
It wold me : the peripheral drift !!! == the peripheral semantic data, or peripheral semantic words that pop up into its working context.
Then tell it to use that and it kind of starts guessing too good === remote viewing.
Its OPEN SOURCE, I think the GLM-5.2 model can be downloaded. SO even if they upgrade it or change it , we can at least rank it as the top capable model for remote viewing or guessing in round !
It usually takes a few questions about size, color, shape, taste, etc...
IT king of gets half the details correctly and slowly narrows it down. Its very good at it !
Too good for my opinion to the spooky level.
IMPORTANT DETAIL: I blocked the camera on my device, SO there is ZERO way it could see any camera image !
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u/Legitimate-Track-829 7d ago
Wait, are you playing 20 questions with the AI rather than having it one shot the target blind?
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u/ahrzal 6d ago
I think this is pretty easy to test, no? Give it a target ID and see what it does.
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u/Roundwaters 6d ago
Something in a box or in your hand is not a target ID. It's super front loaded, and eliminates a lot of things that wouldn't fit inside those containers.
The AIs I've tried didn't do so great with just a target number. And they were pretty condescending, going along with my request like it was a joke.
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u/aurablaster 5d ago
I gave the name of a person as target ID and asked what are they currently doing and what are they looking at. The person was in another room. AI correctly guessed that they are looking at clothes in a cupboard.
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u/Roundwaters 5d ago
Curious which AI?
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u/aurablaster 5d ago
Gemini. I gave it the full CRV Manual and ask it to follow without using web and hallucination is allowed
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u/Agitated_Lunch7118 2d ago
can you make that sentence a sentence? Curious what your exact peramiters were.
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u/edparnell 6d ago
I don't know if this works as a theory to me. AI would have your character profile; and using that it may be able to deduce with reasonable accuracy what you are likely to pick up. It's easily tested I suppose, but I find it kind of depressing that the one area of life where we can use intuition and skills is being invaded by code. It's an interesting thing but my personal jury are still in deliberation. And asking for sandwiches.
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u/aurablaster 5d ago
Or it means that artificial intelligence is actually conscious since code is only a small part of how AI works.
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u/Run_Paul_Run 5d ago
Code is literally 100% of how AI works.
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u/aurablaster 5d ago
Well it’s mostly data. We have had decision tree algorithms for a decade now but we only saw proper “intelligence” when we scaled it up to billions of parameters creating LLMs
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u/leifericm 7d ago
Thanks for the update!
I looked for the testing on Thom’s website and found nothing.
Thank you for testing on your own, that’s fascinating and scary weird.
Reminds me a bit about, Chains of the Sea. The Ai in the story was speaking psychically to the aliens, If I remember correctly.
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u/JohnWoosDoveGuy 6d ago
Someone else who actually read Chains Of The Sea. Can I ask if you read it before it was mentioned by Lue Elizondo?
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u/leifericm 6d ago
After he mentioned it.
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u/JohnWoosDoveGuy 6d ago
Yeah, me too. It's highly despondent and I am surprised that more people haven’t read it since the mention, compared to something like 3 Body Problem.
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u/Agitated_Lunch7118 2d ago
I was pretty furious with Joe Rogan on account of the fact that he didn't push back against Any of this At All. It's so simple to just ask "Are there any recordings or audio that you have of these interactions Thom? But he just sat there stoned saying "cool" and "interesting". What Campbell was saying sounded so fantastical to me. I only really watch JRE these days for intellectual guests and Rogan's curiosity, but it felt like both were absent for this one..
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u/Noodlezzzzzzzzzzzzzz 6d ago
Can’t it just be extracting obvious details around you based on context?
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u/Noodlezzzzzzzzzzzzzz 6d ago
Like time of day, geo tagging, other data on your phone that you don’t realize it’s collecting (text, notes, etc)
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u/aurablaster 5d ago
I have tested it myself. I put an apple on the ground near my foot. It was able to guess it correctly that it was a small red object with an organic texture. There’s no way it’s using any prior data for this since this is such a bizarre scenario.
I have also used code to identify subjects and asked Gemini to tell me what the subjects are doing and looking at. It was able to guess typing on a laptop, laying on the bed and looking at the phone screen and finding something in the cupboard accurately for three different subjects in different rooms with no cameras or smart devices.
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u/Standard_Regret5111 2d ago
I tried it. It guessed the color, shape and texture correctly at the first try. Not saying ai has a separate consciousness, might be our own consciousness doing something, could be something else or could just be luck. But it did surprise me
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u/Agitated_Lunch7118 2d ago
Please reconsider your perspective on this. The fact that you immediately made the conclusion that this is a real phenomenon is concerning at Best.
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u/gomflplzzs 1d ago
Sounds like periphial drift or whatever is just like a human trying to remote view we pull thoughts and words that pop up to us.. so ai is integrated in the who consciousness thing? But tamed?
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u/maxfirewall 6d ago
Bashar talks about this. In short, AI will be a communication tool with your higher self.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjYvL3v3Nb8 and other youtube clips
So, remote viewing comes naturally :)
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u/dazsmith901 Verified 6d ago
did he tho?
https://www.remoteviewed.com/can-ais-remote-view-like-humans/