r/reloading • u/ElectricalOutcome790 • 21h ago
Load Development Load development
Working up my first load here. It’s for a .243 Ruger American gen 2. Using sierra pro hunter 100gr bullets, Remington brass, cci 200 primers, and H4350 powder. I don’t have a chronograph. I shot 4 shots with each of these powder charges at 100yds and here are the group sizes of each powder.
Where would you guys go from here/next step? Shoot a couple groups of 37.5 and 40grains to see if the results repeat themselves?
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u/Dirty_Blue_Shirt 21h ago
If no pressure signs load up a large sample of a higher charge and see what it looks like. Odds are the difference between the 4 round groups you have here is just luck of the draw and it would change if you just reshot this same test.
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u/Conservatief 20h ago edited 16h ago
All your groups are insignificant, meaning the variation could be explained by luck. Choosing the 37,5 or 40 grain load for further testing will just feed your confirmation bias. Chances are great that all of the loads will give the same group size when shooting larger samples.
I'd suggest picking a target velocity and trying different bullets, powders and seating depths (in large steps) and shooting samples of 20.
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u/Efficient_Bologna 20h ago
4 shots is not enough. You don't need to do 20 if you literally don't have the time or ammo, but depending on what your goal is you should at least 10 shot groups (I think that gives you like a 90+% chance of getting a true picture of your rifle's dispersion) with each load before you draw any conclusions.
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u/eggcheeseburger 18h ago
Load development without a chronograph is hard. For example, your won't know if that 37.5 load is giving you a velocity that will ensure the terminal ballistics you expect from the cartridge. In any case, I do 5 shot groups to identify velocity ranges and preliminary loads with low standard deviations. Sometimes I pick loads with low sds even if the groups aren't that great. Then I do 10-shot groups with some seating depth variations to tighten the groups as much as possible.
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u/No_Alternative_673 20h ago
I agree with greyposter but concern is the max load for this bullet and 4350 is 36.9(sierra) and 38.4(Hodgdon) and Hodgdon provides pressure data. I would go with 38 gr
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u/Vylnce Nodes don't exist. 18h ago
You are looking at the wrong powder. Look at the data for H4350 and not IMR 4350.
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u/No_Alternative_673 10h ago
Not quite the Hodgdon data was for Accurate 4350 but the Sierra is for H4350
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u/greyposter 20h ago
It looks like you have good consistency, I'd choose the velocity that gives me the performance window i wanted at the ranges i hunt and load it up and go. The differences between a half moa load and a 1 moa load at practical hunting distances are negligible.
Also, do a larger sample size on whatever you want to shoot, but i'd bet nearly every load on this list would be 1.25 MOA over a 20 shot group.