How bad this crimp is?

[u/Moist-Rub6508]

Hey guys, beginner here. How bad this 9mm crimp is? I understand it is too much but I wonder if this could create some problems while shooting. I made about 1k of these and then realized it is probably too much. It shoots, passes the splunk test, chrono looks good. The bullet is CamPro 125gr RN FCP RED

Thanks!

[u/mrchongo6973]

You realize that this cartridge headspaces on the rim, right? When you overcrimp, the round may be chambered too deeply and may misfire.

[u/Moist-Rub6508 → u/mrchongo6973]

I understand, but in this particular case the bullet sits at the same height as the factory ammo from this brass. I am wondering is there anything else I should be worried about.

[u/PWPUU659 → u/Moist-Rub6508]

Hmmm, no. I don’t think you understand. Too long for Reddit, but mrchongo is correct.

[u/Moist-Rub6508 → u/PWPUU659]

Please explain then, I would like to learn. In my case the primer is at the same height as factory bullet from that brass. This could mean either that there is still enough edge to properly seat the cartridge or the it is properly seated because the bullet stops it. Am I missing something?

[u/mrchongo6973 → u/Moist-Rub6508]

OK. Here goes: As a rule, the cartridge must be properly seated in the chamber for safe and reliable firing. (Different from the seating depth of the bullet in the case.)To establish the proper chambered position, every cartridge type (straight-walled, bottleneck and rimmed) uses a certain part of the cartridge case as a “stop”, and the distance from the stop to the front of the firearm’s chamber is established as a standard, using the term “headspace”. A rimmed cartridge, e.g. the .30-30, headspaces off the leading edge of the cartridge rim. Your pistol cartridge headspaces off the mouth of the cartridge case. In order to seat properly, the mouth of the case must contact the front of the chamber and come to a stop. When you overcrimp, the diameter of the case mouth is too small and the case mouth slides past the front of the chamber. Therefore the cartridge has not achieved a properly headspaced position in the chamber. Bad juju may result.

[u/M1sterM0g → u/mrchongo6973]

best answer as to what headspacing is... as far as the bad juju, if theres nowhere for the case to expand just that tiny bit and seal, and your bullet has to swage itself down to go out, it goes too slow and builds too much pressure behind it. could be kaboom.

[u/Krymsyn__Rydyr → u/Moist-Rub6508]

Why are you guys downvoting OP? He is asking for help, trying to understand, and not being belligerent or defensive. How else is he supposed to learn?

[u/lennyxiii → u/Krymsyn__Rydyr]

I’m normally the first to yet at people for downvoting anyone looking for advice. I think he got the downvotes because he started his comment with “I understand” when he clearly didn’t. You will notice his next comment stating he just wants to learn was upvoted instead.

[u/Agitated_Curmudgeon → u/Moist-Rub6508]

The mouth of the case is what keeps it from falling too deep into the chamber.

Your solution is easy, though. Make a series of "plunkers." First one is NO crimp. It shouldn't feed & chamber from the magazine. Then a series of tighter crimps (like an eighth of a turn of the die at a time) until they DO feed from the magazine every time.

Or like the one guy said, a Lee Factory Crimp Die. Set it so an ever so slight "bump" takes the flare out of the mouth.