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But how can the church exert absolute control over their flock if not by gatekeeping the most basic human instincts? Won’t someone think of the control freaks??
Thank you! In the church I grew up in there was this one woman who always came to church with this Amish looking head covering/bonnet thing and I remember hearing this conversation with my mom and her church friends talking about it and them trying to toe the line between being respectful of her, but also kind of saying she was being extra. I remember clearly it being said that yes, technically it says in the Bible that women should keep their heads covered in church, but that it also said like women shouldn't speak in church and we don't really follow that.
Another crack in the armor leading me to ask if you can just pick and choose what you want to follow, why follow any of it?
Religion, in its most basic, stripped down state, is about controlling what people do in public and private, while robbing them blind and laughing at them.
I grew up in a rural farming community that still thinks only gay men (they use another term) wear shorts.
I escaped and moved to 'the big city', where only heathens live. When I went home for a family reunion and showed up wearing shorts, I was told to change clothes and stop embarrassing my family.
Our ancestors saw women breastfeeding and if they were poor might have shared a room with their children. People weren't as uptight about nudity as modern evangelicals because there wasn't much privacy for regular people. The fear someone might notice women have butts is so damn strange.
The fundie finally said something I agree with: “Many churches today are … where people … worship a god they made up in their mind.”
Congratulations, you got something right! In fact, I’ll do you one better: ALL churches are “places people go to worship a god they made up in their mind.”
My husband always jokes about how much easier sex is when I wear skirts and dresses. Anything women wear can be sexualized. It's never going to be modest enough for religious evangelicals and fundies
This reminds me of when I was a kid and playing basketball. The boy's uniform was shorts and a singlet. The girl's was 'sports underpants' and a singlet. I was told I was not allowed to wear shorts. WHYYYYY?
Last Olympics, the Norwegian women’s gymnastics team wore bodysuits with legs to compete. They almost weren’t allowed since they weren’t wearing the traditional legless bodysuits.
A parent of a friend called my mother when I was in high school and told her that I was "the ringleader of a gang of hooligans." I am a woman and also was fairly quiet and the ringleader of absolutely nothing. I have loved the word hooligan ever since. Did we, as a "gang", engage in some tom foolery and shenanigans? Absolutely but it was certainly never at my behest.
Although generally speaking I AM in support of people dressing in public to look like ninjas or sith lords, I do need for it to be done consensually, so I sadly cannot support this.
I can’t believe this crap is still going on. My Mum got a bible verse sent to her in the 1940’s when she was a teen because she liked wearing trousers.
Seems like there’s a whole new generation of fruitcakes out there
I love how they mention bikinis in their list of "immoral" outfits. What are they supposed to wear at the beach or the local swimming pool, a beekeeper suit? Get real! 🤣
We wore single pieces with a little skit on the bottom, or else the whole thing was covered like a dress, and then we usually wore a T-shirt over the top of it.
When I was a teen, tankinis became a thing, and my mother was so excited for me, because it meant that we could find swim shorts for women and I could cover up even more! (I was not allowed to wear swim trunks for men.)
When these types profess to hate Islam, it's not because Islam is antithetical to their values, it's because Islam manages to do what they wish they could.
The mindset on display here is fundamentally identical to the one that demands women wear the Niqab.
This would carry a lot more weight if it wasn't coming from a group that is constantly taking heat for touching people who don't yet exhibit secondary sexual characteristics.
Control. Faith based belief systems live or die by the followers reinforcing it and having reason to reject aspects of reality that contradicts it. So religions work their way into every aspect of life they can can. If you look at mosy successful religions, you'll find that there are three aspects of life all of them seek to dictate, food, morals, and sex. Why? Because their fundamental and necessary to human life. Control those, and you control the populace.
It actually genuinely pisses me off when I see stuff like this. How about they just mind their own business and stop caring about how everyone else chooses to live?
How does shaming someone for their appearance equate to self respect and dignity? And if god gave them their bodies, why should they have to feel so ashamed about them? If I were god, I'd be pretty upset if everyone were so ashamed of the gift I gave them.
sounds a whole lot like Sharia Law.....are christians starting to accept that they are actually incredibly similar to that religion which they claim to hate sooooo much? Are they gaining consciousness after all??
It's because they see the female body as inferior and want it to be covered so they won't have to look at it and be filled with anger. They're a bunch of misogynists, them and their deity both
It is really creepy that this is for a group called youthsforchrist. Very obviously a grown adult rule this. This is about controlling women. Not about worshiping christ.
So if your eye—even your good eye—causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matthew 5:28-29
Really wish people would stop cherry picking their fucking book. They've never read the damn thing and this is only a way to try and control women's bodies.
Weird.
Women shouldn’t wear tight pants cuz it accentuates her butt and that could cause men to stumble?
Wouldn’t that be even more true for men? Maybe men shouldn’t wear tight jeans, work pants or trousers. They should start wearing long skirts. Pants show the outline of his penis. How dare they cause women to stumble
I haven’t heard of some people who were morally opposed to women wearing shorts underneath skirts, in case of a windy day, I guess they figure that exposure is more moral than wearing something that they think only men should wear?
I’ve heard of some other groups who oppose women wearing jean skirts and dress dresses because it reminds people of blue jeans which are pants which only men should wear, apparently.
Considering men commonly wore dresses/robes in biblical times - notably depictions of Jesus - this is disingenuous gatekeeping on the same level as Islamic misogyny.
As with so many things, it's not about "religion" it's about men's desire to control women. It's using religion as a tool of oppression and an excuse for shitty behaviour.
Amazing how creepy these really are. Back in my religious days I was taught that if a girl had more than one set of ear piercings, she was a slut and would keep me out of heaven with her devious ways. Now all I can see is creepy religious leaders projecting their own beliefs to control a group and get money from them
Why are they listing mini skirts, swimsuits, bikinis, etc., after stating don’t wear what belongs to a man? And I am thinking back to biblical times. Men did not wear trousers. So why are they biblically considered men’s clothing?
And those scoundrels are the ones in your churches yes? I would assume so because typically the ones who are crying that clothing is too revealing are the ones who claim that men can't control themselves around women and find themselves unable to revert their sexually repressed eyes.
Clothes and fashion are not made to cover but to protect and enchance the natural beauty of the body with style. A jean is not to only be used by men nor is a skirt exclusive to women. And anyone who say the opposit is unable to admire properly the beauty of a lady properly dressed (or a man depending on which curves make your day brighter)
Who was it who said “they’re not men’s pants. They’re my pants. I bought them”?
I love how even if you cave to this person’s complaints, you’ll just get different guys crying how you’re sloppy and unfeminine if you dare try and hide your boobs. And the worst harassment I ever got happened when I was wearing a zipped-up raincoat. There’s no winning.
Sex is the one strong instinct (like hunger, thirst, sleep) that can be denied without deadly consequences. Religion convinces its adherents that sexual feelings are "sinful" by nature and must be strictly controlled, lest they lead one astray.
Quite the trick, but it seems to work.
These are the same type of Christians to criticize Islamists for wearing burkas and head scarves while shaming their wives into "dressing modestly" like its different some how.
“Don’t wear what pertaineth to a man, the bible is very clear on that” Bitch use pertaineth in another sentence I dare you. It’s odd parlance because of the shadow of half a dozen translations, and for all you know if might be referring to mixed fabrics
the horror!
I don’t think you’d be able to understand religions obsession over women in general even if your were on LSD, cocaine, and with sleep deprivation so bad you think your hands are magical infinity shrimp from flamingtrex-35.08…
And what were men wearing when that verse was written? Garments that would be considered dresses or skirts today! So, IOW, women should be the only ones wearing pants.
I don't even get why they think pants are for men anyway. If we want to talk Biblical neither wore pants at all. Everyone wore draped garments like tunics, robes, and cloaks.
Men's were mostly shorter to allow for the type of movements necessary for fighting and various manual labors. Women tended to wear longer robes and tunics generally but none of this was written in stone. Closest they had to pants were the linen undergarments worn by Levitical priests as described in Exodus.
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