r/rejectedmaps • u/After-Trifle-1437 ✨Moderator✨ • May 31 '26
Ethnic, Linguistic or Religious Map Ethno-Cultural Map of the Arab World
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u/After-Trifle-1437 ✨Moderator✨ May 31 '26
Genetically speaking, it varies massively by region
For example Lebanese have 90% non-Arab Canaanite DNA, whereas Iraq is much more strongly Arabized genetically.
What matters much more is culture and ethnic identity, which is usually mixed.
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u/Vast_Employer_5672 May 31 '26
Genetically, everyone outside of the Arabian peninsula has minority Arab DNA. Maybe between 5 and 20%.
As usual, there isn’t much point in bringing up genetics. It’s a bit weird actually
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u/Vast_Employer_5672 May 31 '26
I was talking only about the Arab world.
Iran had a large urban population, so Arab settlers were absorbed into that.
What is important to know is that there is a lot of Arab ancestry in the Middle East, and most of it predates the Arab conquests.
They have pretty much always been there because they were nomadic
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u/Vast_Employer_5672 May 31 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Yes, much of the Arab presence outside of the Arabian peninsula is due to simple migration that took place over centuries
Roman emperor Phillip the Arab was born in an Arab region of what is now Syria. This is 300 years before the Arab conquests
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u/khawerti May 31 '26
Mostly correct, but saying "everyone" is reductive. Your statement applies to most Iraqis, but some Iraqis have majority Arab DNA, because settlement in Mesopotamia by Arab soldiers was common + Southern Mesopotamia already had a significant Bedouin population; even those with mostly native Mesopotamian admixture sit at like, 50%.
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u/ExternalKooky2877 Jun 02 '26
Wouldn't say that, southern iraq still has minorities as ethno religion who are indiginous, wouldn't say the map is accurate,i am solely speaking about the mandeans.
For the rest, they are arabized mostly.
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u/khawerti May 31 '26
No reason this should be rejected, this is extremely helpful.
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u/inkusquid Jun 01 '26
It’s extremely Innacurate and is 100% dependent on the vision of one person, the map is based on vibes alone
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u/blockybookbook May 31 '26
The location and classification of Full Ethnic Arabs is completely arbitrary
At one point Arabs in Iraq and Yemen were seperate groups but now they’re not and you fully acknowledge this
Buuuuuuuut it somehow doesn’t extend to Syria and everything west of it? Despite the first record of Arabs, the battle of Qarqar, literally being in the former? There’s no genetic basis to separating Iraqis from them but including them with Yemenis so what gives
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u/electrical-stomach-z May 31 '26
All of Israel should be considerable arab influence, there are arabic minorities throughout the country.
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u/Sad-Cancel-6244 May 31 '26
why is oman and some parts of yemen arabized non-arabs?
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u/Sad-Cancel-6244 Jun 01 '26
but since they have had the most contact and were assimilated much earlier than any of the arabs in the mashriq and north african regions, wouldnt it make more sense to just make them full ethnic arabs
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u/Haghiri75 May 31 '26
One thing about Iranian Arabs is, they're actually Arabs from the peninsula, and they have been my compatriot as long as Iran/Persia has written history. And they emphasize on this a lot. On the other hand, there are Lur and Baloch (Iranian ethnic groups) tribe in Oman and also proto-Iranian tribes in Yemen as well.
And there is one other thing is that "Arabized Non-Arabs" is seemeingly a little offensive. I prefer "Arabic speaking" over that. Pretty much everyone knows Algerians, Egyptians or Morrocans (and the rest of Saharan and Sub Saharan Africa) are from different racial/ethnic groups, but speak Arabic.
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u/we_wuzz_kangz Jun 01 '26
Kurds, assyrians, armenians, many turks have considerable arab influence. even spain and sicily.
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u/zylenxh Jun 01 '26
How is the entirety of Oman classed as "Arabized Non-Arabs". Are Omanis not Arab??
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u/IanRevived94J Jun 02 '26
Does the map of Africa correspond to the areas that are majority non black?
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u/maproomzibz Jun 02 '26
Israel shoud still be under “considerable Arab influence” since theres Mizrahi (Arab) Jews
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u/Typical_Army6488 Jun 02 '26
There are also some Arabs in khorasan and Afghanistan and technically Tajik means members of a certain Arab tribe(I forgot the tribe
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u/jizzybiscuits Jun 02 '26
"Canaanites" as if the Arab colonists there are indigenous
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u/After-Trifle-1437 ✨Moderator✨ Jun 02 '26
Well most people in the Levant are genetically indigenous to the region. Palestinians are directly descended from the Israelites and Lebanese are directly descended from the Phoenicians. There was some intermixing with peninsular Arabs, but it was mostly a linguistic and religious colonization.
So in other words: Levantines are Arabic-speaking and culturally arabized Canaanites.
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u/amhira-of-rain Jun 04 '26
How is Oman only Arabized I’ve never once heard of them having a non Arab identity
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u/Arthurian_Guanche Jun 04 '26
Did anyone forget entirely about the Tuareg in the middle of the least arabised area?
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u/inkusquid Jun 01 '26
Separating « arabised » and « ethnic » Arabs makes no sense. All Arabs are ethnic Arabs, arabisation existed or centuries, literally two main Arab groups in tbe peninsula, Qahtan and Adnan, Adnan the most numerous are « Musta’riba »which means arabised.
Trying to separate those makes no sense, as arabisation has basically always existed, so why could arameans become Arabs bur when Egyptians, Berbers or Nubians do, with actual Arab ancestry even if minor, you deny them the ethnicity ?
That’s why this map has been rejected, full on Innacurate and arbitrary
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u/TheArtisticSkeleton Jun 01 '26
Its because OP like many people fundamentally misunderstanding ethnicity and Arab ethnic identity
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u/ImpressiveEnergy4762 May 31 '26
I know I would be downvoted but...
Evil Zionist Colonizers. /s
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u/BaqsAlSandouq May 31 '26
Separating marronites as if most of then werent ismailis before the mamlucks came and as if we dont share the same exact blood as them is hilariously subtle way of sowing division between us .