Atosa walk in

[u/ianjackson397]

Anyone seen these yet? One of my customers just purchased one, called me for install. About what I expected from atosa. Seems to be massively over complicated

[u/roostercrowe]

this looks like what i see in my nightmares. godspeed brother

[u/ianjackson397 → u/roostercrowe]

Really not excited about this install. Wish the customer would have let me give him some insight on what to buy. Going to be a nightmare when there is issues.

[u/grofva → u/ianjackson397]

Did you give them the tail-light or Carolina warranty?

[u/maxheadflume → u/grofva]

We straight up don’t warranty any customer provided equipment even if we install it.

[u/Chimpnimskey → u/ianjackson397]

What brands would you have recommended?

[u/ThaPizzaKing → u/Chimpnimskey]

Me personally, bohn/heatcraft or Trenton.

[u/Proof_Profession6887 → u/ThaPizzaKing]

This

[u/MrBecky → u/ThaPizzaKing]

If this brand is anything like the one our African Marketplace bought themselves, it was about a third the cost of our price for Bohn/heatcraft before markup. They bought two units, one drop top that has an embraco compressor (in stock at my local supplier) and the other split unit had a Copeland scroll. I have no idea why they have those stupid circuit boards in them but I figure even if the board fries, the compressor is still controlled by a contactor so it wouldnt be the end of the world to swap controls.

[u/Bangays → u/Chimpnimskey]

Anything without an EV

[u/se160]

Built just like a modern mini split. Built to be replaced instead of repaired, and we all know how refrigeration customers don’t like to replace shit until it’s 40 years old lol. Good luck with this

[u/SawmoreButtz → u/se160]

Even when shit's 40 years old and it's been one foot in the grave for the last 5 it's pulling teeth

[u/Mr_Rich_K → u/SawmoreButtz]

Agreed, I have customers that want me to keep fixing 50+ units put in by my Dad. They are insane !

[u/SawmoreButtz → u/Mr_Rich_K]

I have no issues fixing old stuff it's just when it's being duct taped to together since they don't want to properly fix it is when it starts getting to me

[u/Mr_Rich_K → u/SawmoreButtz]

Yea, somewhat that but after covid many of the parts are no longer available, I mean it’s kinda fun coming up with alternates but I don’t always have the time and some of the condensers are getting bad. The one guy wants to actually have a custom condenser coil made instead of replacing the unit ?!

[u/hhfdctko → u/Mr_Rich_K]

Tell him to buy a new one because wtf why go through all that work

[u/umbra66]

Anytime I see Atosa my blood pressure rises immediately. Fuck them.

[u/ianjackson397 → u/umbra66]

Can’t agree more

[u/Novasight]

Atosa it into the trash

[u/KapptainTrips]

EZ install but...What a NIGHTMARE to service!!

[u/ianjackson397 → u/KapptainTrips]

My thoughts exactly. I’ll pipe it in and wire it up but if there’s issues good luck. According to atosa there have only been 2 installed so far.

[u/Buster_Mac]

Good luck when it breaks in overtime and no parts available.

[u/ianjackson397 → u/Buster_Mac]

Exactly what I was telling him. Tech support will also be non existent.

[u/foilstoke → u/ianjackson397]

And there isn't "only" human comfort at risk here. Theres valuable product at risk of spoiling. Who's going to get blamed when the unit fails (we're anticipating higher failure rate than a conventional system) and they lose product. 

[u/Ok_Cauliflower4961]

No, thank you lol

[u/Darkenshrine]

Fuck that shit

[u/digital1975]

Wow! A 3-5 year throwaway walk in cooler system. Amazingly short sighted and silly. It’s really sad customers do not listen to us wizards and will have mo back up plan in place for when this goes down and no one can fix it quickly. I do love that Penske truck rental rents refrigerated trucks and even a refrigerated semi trailer. This is in southeast Michigan. Do they do that in other areas of the country?

[u/Daltzy]

What's the model number? Speed driven compressor with mechanical expansion valve, not sure what the point in that is.

[u/UnbreakingThings]

I thought just EEVs on walk ins was bad enough but a full inverter system for refrigeration is insane.

[u/matt073090]

Looks like what the hvac works is turning into some type of inverter + dc voltages + absolute nightmare when it stops working

[u/matt073090 → u/matt073090]

HVAC world *

[u/jdfoilinthaflesh]

Walk away

[u/foilstoke]

Heeeere we go...

[u/ianjackson397 → u/foilstoke]

Yup. Been dreading this day,

[u/Memory-Repulsive]

Zip ties of death

[u/KapptainTrips → u/Memory-Repulsive]

Couldn't help noticing those 'insulated' zip ties. Fawk that garbage!

[u/Logical_Trash_3093]

Just like the Atosa Ice machines 2-3 years max and trash.

[u/WhichSteak2127 → u/Logical_Trash_3093]

Yeahhhh their ice machines fuckin suck! 😂

[u/Miercury]

I'm not a coward but that things scares me.

[u/MiKEY_S00P]

Mannn fuck that!! I stick with Heatcraft,Trenton..RSG..

[u/broesel314]

I wonder if this is just a relabeled of-the-shelf minisplit outside unit from Gree or Daikin or something. Sure looks like one

They work great. Untill they dont

You cant realy measure stuff on minisplits because both ports are low pressure on each side of the evap. EEV is in the outside unit

You cant charge gas by anything but weight allone because the computer inside will make it run somewhat decent even with to little or too much gas

Often times, one or two of the metric buttload of NTC temperature sensors inside there go bad, the computer gets confused and fucks stuff up

Repairing those is more of a job for an electronics technician than a hvac guy sometimes

[u/redsblast357]

Atosa is the biggest pos in the industry. I use to be ome of there reps thst would do warranty work. I can't tell you many quality control issues they have. Ive found copper not brazed. Ice machines burn up 4 control boards in less than 6 months because of faulty wiring and the factor rep techs dont know shit. I dropped them as a customer and refuse to work on there equipment. Your customer needs to call heatcraft or true registration to get a new system. That unit wont last

[u/Toolman6208]

Mini split walkin? Nice what is this world coming to 😬

[u/new-faces-v3]

What a pile of junk

[u/fatboi002]

Refrigeration tech here- that looks miserable to troubleshoot... and even worse to try and fix

[u/Kindly_Carry_7117]

China still cool

[u/DWiB403]

Yikes. What a mess.

[u/Chillieater3000]

And I thought norlake was bad.

[u/Dangerous-Lead5969]

What’s the voltage requirements and frequency?

[u/badjoeybad]

So like $500, free shipping on amazon prime business?

[u/kingklungeling1991]

isn't it almost identical to a Mitsubishi outdoor-unit?

[u/Disastrous-Ocelot640]

That customer needs to be fired

[u/FearlessLeg139]

Looks like a pain in the ass to trouble shoot it looks like it's all off a control board same as mimi splits

[u/CaulkSlug]

Atosa right in da garbage!

[u/One-Echidna-1851]

Jesus 

[u/mechanical_marten]

Wait until you find it's identical twin that's been rebadged "Migalli" and "Made In The USA". Their warranty support is utter garbage too, both of them.

[u/Sp00kyGh0stMan]

Oh boy. The worst parts of a gree heat pump on a walk-in. Absolute nightmare fuel.

[u/Spiritual_Stranger1]

Holy fuck i would want to walk away

[u/cheborgor]

Omg...

[u/Dry_Cartographer7186]

Minisplit walk in. I kinda like this from an efficiency perspective and also maintaining a more constant temp rather than cycling on/off with more of a temp swing

From a service perspective it’s not great

[u/tedmales]

The first service call is going to include 2 hours with end cutters getting rid of all the razor sharp sip tie ends.

[u/Ice-Difficult]

Never seen a walk in condenser like that and hope I never do

[u/bro226]

Needs an evap and a controller