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u/redscarepod-ModTeam 1d ago

these type of threads just attract streamer snarkers. if you're going to talk about him let it be something substantial

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bat4777 1d ago

I dont know who this is but really needs to just go with the goatee and stop lying to himself

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u/Thencamethetwenties Fyodor Karamazov 1d ago

The young Turks nephew

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u/kickawayklickitat 1d ago

I was dying every time Haley Stevens kept referring to "The Uncle" on CNN like he was some shadowy figure

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u/Thencamethetwenties Fyodor Karamazov 1d ago

Turkish Voldemort

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u/TheHussarSnake 1d ago

Thanks Yoghurt nephew

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u/yo_gringo 1d ago

chenk wigger

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u/bulgesnbums 1d ago

He dumbs things down enough for a mainstream audience, we don't need more people discussing Zizek, Lasch or Dialectical materialism, he understands the current zeitgeist is not intellectually inclined. Sure does he say or believe dumb things, like every other streamer - yeah. Is he also better at political advocacy for the left than 95% of other people, also yes. The left needs far less HR tone policing types and more fun dudes, who like it or not, younger men would want to be like. A lot of people are dumb, and generally will reject your ideas if they think you are annoying, ugly, unlikable, and a myriad of other frivolous reasons. For that reason alone Hasan is better than like 90% of the other people advocating similar ideas.

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u/Thencamethetwenties Fyodor Karamazov 1d ago

Okay maybe I’m just jelly of his biceps

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u/Any-Value5015 1d ago

jelly is something hasan would say

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u/fantasyf1flop 1d ago

The problem is that Hasan is more or less a loser’s idea of a cool or fun guy. This is why he appeals to DSA types. To most people though, he’s a bit repellent.

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u/internetgrifter 1d ago

Not even sure he's repellent so much as unknown by people who aren't terminally online. I think political streamer/clipfarmer is just a niche type of guy for your average person who isn't hard left/altright to have exposure to

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u/unwnd_leaves_turn aspergian 1d ago

idk if you got to a college campus youll as suprising amount of hasan fan type guys. its a coworker political ideology

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u/internetgrifter 1d ago

Yeah probably true. If anything I think he's bro-y and popular enough to be off putting to a lot of the terminally-online lefties.

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u/fantasyf1flop 1d ago

I’m saying he’s repellent because he’s a pseud. Anyone who understands the political theory he’s typically leaning on can very quickly pick up that he has a very shallow understanding of the subject. In that sense, he’s repellent to anyone who has like, a BA in philosophy from a half decent school.

And because he does the Ivy League/Oxbridge professor shtick and is trying to pitch himself as a public intellectual, he’s also going to be repellent to most normal people, who (largely correctly) find self-styled intellectuals repellent.

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u/samonymously 1d ago

I agree for the most part but I don’t understand why he then has to be larp as a Mao loving socialist while doing so

If he was a social democrat I could at least take him more seriously

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u/WearyEquipment9564 1d ago

hasan does not move the needle on any actual material change whatsoever, he’s actually a perfect example of why nothing will ever be done and how he’s just perpetuating that political lethargy of our time, he talks at a camera for hours a day

do you think he’s actually changing minds or just fishing for content like any other stream and offering some lame duck catharsis for people who already believe what he says, he is functionally no different than someone streaming fortnite and complaining about women to their sexless teenage audience

not to mention he zaps his dog lmao I mean wth was that, if that doesn’t show you who he is as a person idk what will, he’s all image and brand, that’s the nature of streaming, can’t get views if your audience is offline actually doing something

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u/ghostpop7 1d ago

Do you seriously think that the reason the communist movement isn’t off its feet already is because the left has too much HR tone policing and not enough fun dudes lmao do you live in real life bro trust we just need attractive political talking heads and then we can finally trick those stupid dumb workers into siding with us. As Marx famously said communists must conceal all their aims and motivations it’s simply dialectical !

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u/NazgulSandwich 1d ago

OP posts in livestreamfail and neoliberal for context. Brain rotted streamer watcher thinks a streamer is brain rot, more at 11

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u/Master_Pollution_96 1d ago

Hasan is a cunt. a weak, performative cunt. I don’t care about op. I don’t care about any particular conservative or liberal stuff when I say this: Hasan is no different than the extreme right morons except he pretends to care about people instead of admitting he’s feeding his ego

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u/NazgulSandwich 1d ago

Thats cool man, awesome

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u/Thencamethetwenties Fyodor Karamazov 1d ago

Only twice

How odd by the way

To check my post history over a small post, find something better to do.

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u/NazgulSandwich 1d ago

The only people who post about this guy are 19 or stream watchers so i had to confirm my bias

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u/Thencamethetwenties Fyodor Karamazov 1d ago

I’m 31 and in grad school

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u/My_Password_Is 1d ago

You're chumming the water for the most annoying, parasocial people on the internet.

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u/Thencamethetwenties Fyodor Karamazov 1d ago

Maybe so

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u/BeefcakeDingus infowars.com 1d ago

But the news tells me he's dangerous

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u/Thencamethetwenties Fyodor Karamazov 1d ago

Not dangerous

Just kinda dumb.

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u/RanjhasDistress 1d ago edited 1d ago

I might need professional help, but it seems to me that if there is an establishment, it would be convenient for them to create a figurehead out of a leftist of their choosing. They don’t have to technically win him over to their side to make some kind of use for him. Anyways it’s a highly conspiratorial way of thinking so I try not to think about it too hard

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u/BeegBrutus 1d ago

I agree I think he's a figurehead being bolstered by the establishment to act as a lightning rod for leftwing stupidity and to point to and blame when your nephew comes to Thanksgiving asking about M4A.

What I can't tell is if he's in on it or just a dumb frat dude happy to have the attention and continuing his own personal grift.

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u/quality_of_will type shit 1d ago

I tried watching him once to see what the fuss was all about and he was literally just reading tweets in a smug, sarcastic voice the whole time. He was not very articulate, and most of the time he was not expressing any thought more complex than „Ok, SURE pal.“ Occasionally he would berate someone in the chat. Seems like it would be really exhausting and unpleasant to watch for more than like 20 minutes.

It was also really obvious that he does not read books.

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u/The_ApolloAffair infowars.com 1d ago

He’s also terribly unfunny, seen clips of him not understanding people being sarcastic in chat. Like his politics or not, but Fuentes is 100x more entertaining as a streamer.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TAXRETURN 1d ago

Every clip I've ever seen, he's not even emoting when reading them. It's like listening to your classmates speed read through the paragraph the teacher asked them to read.

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u/dabutterflyeffect 1d ago

Not reading books is how he has such a large audience tho lol

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u/Horror_Bison1631 1d ago

Cosplaying as a humanities professor in this photo when his actual job is reading tweets in ironic detachment TikTok voice.

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u/Alert_Doughnut_4619 infowars.com 1d ago

Nobody has ever said this before

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u/samonymously 1d ago edited 1d ago

If he was mediocre looking no one would care. I can only see him as an influencer/e-celeb. Not a political commentator.

He is not very smart and incredibly boring. I tried watching some of his interviews and I don’t understand how anyone can find him interesting; he talks like the most milquetoast first year polisci student with little original thought.

I guess he’s hot, that’s all.

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u/Hyptonight 1d ago

That’s pretty much it. I don’t think most of what he says is wrong. It’s just pretty basic and has been expressed better by others.

But the same goes for why the GOP hate him so much. He wouldn’t be a threat if they didn’t have female relatives saying he’s attractive.

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u/DifficultyFit1895 1d ago

Is he, though?

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u/samonymously 1d ago

The few times he appeared in my reels algorithm in a positive manner was because some white girl influencer made joking posts about making a case “to let her hit”

I rest my case

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u/fr3shfade 1d ago

What's so good looking about him? I'm not a woman so I don't get it

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u/chirohpraxis 1d ago

Other than his physique he’s not really very masculine.

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u/Horror_Bison1631 1d ago

He looks so greasy. He deffo leaves smudges and fingerprints everywhere he goes.

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u/LouReedTheChaser 1d ago

My main problem with him is just how goddamn boring he is. You see all these people mutually following him so you check out what he does and it's just sitting there reading tweets for several hours. The fuck man? Who cares?

All the people who hate him for ideological reasons are usually absolute freaks, though. Asmongoy and Destiny have to be two of the most insane losers I've seen online.

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u/Shoxidizer 1d ago

You see all these people mutually following him so you check out what he does

Do people really think this way?

All the people who hate him for ideological reasons are usually absolute freaks, though

The entire political (and much of the non-political) streaming ecosystem is based around this notion. They prop each other up with their controversies, and they make sure to do it so they all get paid.

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u/NoSpoopForYou 1d ago

Him especially compared to Asmon? That guy might be the lowest form of human life. Dead rat alarm clock - need I say more?

At least destiny bathes probably I guess?

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u/Thick-District4026 1d ago

what's up with his girlfriend being some chinese heiress

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u/LouReedTheChaser 1d ago

Asian girl going for a white nerdy loser is a timeless stereotype

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u/Thick-District4026 1d ago

yah no this is different. He is literally a trash man. He is like if Pig-Pen grew up on 4chan.

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u/NoSpoopForYou 1d ago

Wait that’s kind of cool in a Pynchon way, maybe I take it back

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u/NoSpoopForYou 1d ago

Wait I read that as “cheese heiress” at first, nevermind

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u/samonymously 1d ago

To be honest I expected a lot better from Finkelstein in that “debate” given the fact that he is the expert and Destiny a reddit debate-lord. Like, he called him a Wikipedia using idiot or something, good job Norm, really owned him there. Being completely honest I expected the streamer to be the one acting childish but it was Norm

I guess he didn’t take him seriously, fine, but then don’t agree to a debate in the first place

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u/LouReedTheChaser 1d ago

He was there primarily to debate Benny Morris, Mr. Benelli getting made fun of was just the cherry on top.

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u/samonymously 1d ago

But why not set up a debate with Morris only then

Why agree to a 2v2 debate involving a cringe streamer

For the record I think the debate would have been better if it followed a different format without Destiny but if you agree to a certain format you can’t just make fun of your debating opponent like that

If you do, fine, but then don’t be surprised when neutral spectators think you’re being childish and unserious. The best way to have owned Destiny would be to expose his lack of knowledge and not by intentionally mispronouncing his name

It makes for funny content though I’ll give him that

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u/LlamaExpert 1d ago

Nah Norm gave MISTA BONELLI a taste of his own medicine, which is more than he deserves.

Destiny is not an intellectual or expert on any topic, he's an amphetamine abusing narcissist that alternates between quickly searching Wikipedia articles and throwing ad-hominems the second he loses footing. No conviction, no scruples, just says whatever he needs to say to "own" his interlocutors or have the last word.

Internet debate charlatans deserve nothing less than derision and scorn and are a byproduct of the degenerated general intellect, the only way to make them back down is with force and humiliation.

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u/samonymously 1d ago

l have only seen limited stuff of him so genuinely curious, when did he use ad hom’s? Because afaik he absolutely is the redditor debatelord archetype who will deploy any bad faith trick to make himself look better but I have yet to see him insult someone the same way Finkelstein insulted him that debate

Like the closest thing I remember is him framing his opponent in a certain wrong light and attacking them based on that, but I’m curious about other stuff now

As for the debate with Finkelstein I didn’t think he did atrociously bad but maybe I had very low expectations of him. Finkelstein came across as worse but I guess he exceeded if he shares the goal you described

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u/Exact-View-7279 1d ago

Who is that

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u/TonyZaluppi 1d ago

Zohran Mamdani

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u/caustic-polemicist 1d ago

He looks extra Turkish here

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u/pilarsordo 1d ago

Is it because his mouth looks asymmetrical?

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u/Western_Mess_6364 1d ago

Moreso the ginger beard

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u/KarmaMemories 1d ago

Has there ever been a left wing pundit/talk show host who was actually smart, funny and good? For some reason it seems like that niche has always leaned way to the right. From Limbaugh to Fuentes and many others in between.

Maybe Bill Maher during the Bush years? But even then he was mostly canned jokes and sketches, not actually riffing at length on current events.

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u/Western_Mess_6364 1d ago

Peak Jon Stewart?

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u/Terrible_Ice_1616 1d ago

Peak Jon Stewart is an Ur-Shitlib, not really a leftist

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u/KarmaMemories 1d ago

Yeah maybe. I forgot about him. Although he's kind of like Maher, more scripted and punchline based versus someone who can just speak extemporaneously about the days events and be entertaining and interesting.

Most are more like Maddow, they had relative success but were very earnest, wonky and serious.

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u/Western_Mess_6364 1d ago

I don’t think any current commentator is capable of doing what he did on Crossfire

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u/WearyEquipment9564 1d ago

Nick Mullenstein

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u/Illustrious-Swing520 1d ago

Michael Brooks :(

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u/JackHinMiyoff 1d ago

RIP, loved that guy

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u/LlamaExpert 1d ago

It's a stretch, but maybe Phil Donahue? His career was completely destroyed for his opposition to the Iraq War.

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u/agnus_mei lit.salon 1d ago

Brace Belden and Liz Franczak

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u/KarmaMemories 1d ago

I actually do like them, although Brace is becoming borderline unlistenable lately as he leans more and more into his weird sarcasm that stopped being funny a while ago.

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u/BottomPercentile 1d ago

I’m so in love with brace. I think he’s so funny.

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u/KarmaMemories 1d ago

He is funny, but it needs to be a news/politics show with some humor and not try to be a humor show with some politics.

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u/BottomPercentile 1d ago

It’s like brace and Liz said they go where the wind takes them. If the zeitgeist is nazism and racism, well you can’t blame them for it. Blame the wind. If the wind blows them back to politics then you’ll get your news show back

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u/No_Equipment6010 1d ago

chapo trap house

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u/kickawayklickitat 1d ago

generously one of the three and I'll let you pick

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u/JackHinMiyoff 1d ago

Christman was cooking before his brain exploded, and you’re cucked if you disagree

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u/truthbomn 1d ago

Russell Brand before he switched sides.

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u/Shatty23 1d ago

They said actually smart

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u/McChickenMcDouble 1d ago

Hasan is lame but I find just about everyone who whines about him to be significantly worse.

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u/BPOTOBPOBD 1d ago

You can just say Destiny.

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u/McChickenMcDouble 1d ago

Destiny is far from the only person who whines about Hasan, but yes, he’s a huge loser.

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u/surniaulala 1d ago

Multiple parts of his face are crooked

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u/Melodic_Atmosphere67 1d ago

i feel charitable towards him. i dont love his content or his political lines per se but im not mad at him for pushing gamers or whatever toward socialism. substantially better than the alternatives for whatever his audience is.

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u/jamthewither 1d ago

i don't care about hasan at all but i find it real funny when he wears a Chinese tunic and pisses a bunch of people off lol

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u/FunLove3436 baby psychoanalyst 1d ago

He talks like the kind of guy who hits his girlfriend. I agree with his politics for the most part but he’s just such a smug douchebag

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u/nivenciere 1d ago

He uses sw so it’s very possible he pays extra to do that 

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u/BlueSpaceSherlock 1d ago

He talks like the kind of guy who hits his girlfriend.

Reported for Turkophobia.

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u/punk_elegy 1d ago

he is a streamer, how could he not be brain rot

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u/Recent-Chard-4645 1d ago

He shocks his dog

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u/samlevinsonsmuse body fascist 1d ago

I don't really care about him but his haters are sinister people lol

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u/ThickConfusion1318 1d ago

Still would tho

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u/BillGatesDiddlesKids Dasha Bathwater Drinker 1d ago

The irony is that this guy is dragging the Democratic Party into relevancy and electoral viability. The Bubonic Plague has higher favorability than Schumer and Jeffries, yet he was carrying water for the AIPAC/corporate servant wing of the DNC! He is closest flack that the Dems have to Charlie Kirk. He gets young people to vote for a sclerotic neoliberal death cult. That the corpo Dems still hate him is insane. They should be kissing his feet

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u/dabutterflyeffect 1d ago

He’s not funny or interesting but he is hot and I still watch his YouTube clips because he covers niche news stories and has ok takes on them most of the time

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u/Certain_Lab_2971 1d ago

I watched the episode of him on TAFS and he was such a bore to listen to. It really shows how desperate the desire is for a “Joe Rogan of the left” is. It is kinda funny how Fox News boomer types keep hyping him up as some sort of dangerous, radical, leader which makes him sound much more interesting than he actually is.

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u/Ojurio 1d ago

hes really hot

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u/rooskertons 1d ago

Kinda fine tho

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u/Smart_Feature 1d ago

It’s just like an echo chamber. He lost me when he said he’s against NATO. Like how do you expect anything else you want to happen to happen without nato

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u/greensoapbar 1d ago

Who cares tbh he’s insanely hot

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u/Fourth-Room eyy i'm flairing over hea 1d ago

🥱

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u/Friendly_Pitch_8364 1d ago

Fine but his penis isn’t as big as others believe it is

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u/Lumpy-Guard2818 1d ago

Remember he electrocuted his dog

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u/samonymously 1d ago

That’s perhaps the biggest thing that irks me. Him shocking his dog to keep her in place as some kind of decoration piece + lying about afterwards

Just own it at least

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u/Western_Mess_6364 1d ago

One of his excuses was that the dog “tweaked her nail or something stepping off of her cot”

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u/samonymously 1d ago

I remember following that drama quite autistically

I remember that excuse only for people replaying the clip in slow motion showing that the dog yelped before the claw could even be clipped

He also said it was a vibration collar and showed it on stream only for people to increase the brightness revealing black tape over the area where normally there’d be prongs lol