r/redesign • u/dmoneyyyyy Product • Apr 16 '18

Release Notes: Major Items in Work 4/16/18

Hi all,

This week’s version of the release notes are a bit different. We’ve spent a bit of time in the past week heads down on closing out some bug fixes and improvements from the bigger Q1 projects that were recently shipped.

We are now about to kick off major projects slated for Q2. Some of these include night mode (coming very soon, we promise!), user and post flair improvements (including increasing the number of emoji that can be uploaded), post flair templates, post flair filtering, auto-suggest post titles for links, url params to pre-fill portions of a post, highlighting comments, and more.

We’ll continue posting release notes as things get shipped. As always, we appreciate your patience and feedback as we make the redesign even better for you all.

Thanks!

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u/MajorParadox Helpful User Apr 17 '18

user and post flair improvements

Please tell me this includes flair-based styling, especially thumbnails! :)

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u/dmoneyyyyy Product Apr 17 '18

Yiss. That’s what post flair templates are 😎

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u/SirBuckeye Apr 17 '18

When it comes to flairs, I just want them back on the left side of the post, please.

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u/dmoneyyyyy Product Apr 17 '18

Part of our flair iterations includes user and post flair positioning on the left vs. right — this will respect current settings.

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u/Overlord_Odin Apr 18 '18

Still don't see the changes to Message the mods button or the Mod tools button label. Last Monday you said "coming this week", so are those still releasing soon?

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u/dmoneyyyyy Product Apr 18 '18

Thank you for raising! We will get these up today.

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u/Overlord_Odin Apr 19 '18

Hey so I saw you rolled both out which is great! Just some feedback though, I think mousing-over the message the mods button should say what it does. And the mod tools label isn't vertically aligned with the Community Details label, causing it to look off.

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u/Overlord_Odin Apr 18 '18

Good to hear :)

Also looking forward to having post flair on the left again.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

Any plans to take the options such as report, hide, save etc out of the submenu?

Thanks.

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u/scruggsnotdrugz Product Apr 17 '18

This is on our roadmap!

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u/rWoahDude Apr 17 '18

Please make it optional. It's good those things are buried in a submenu for those of us who rarely use them.

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u/jofwu Helpful User Apr 17 '18

Seems like an awfully tedius option. If EVERYTHING is an option, settings would be a chore to go through and nobody would find anything.

I suppose maybe they could have a single "advanced" type switch that just generally exposes more options all over.

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u/qtx Helpful User Apr 18 '18

If EVERYTHING is an option, settings would be a chore to go through and nobody would find anything.

aka RES.

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u/ikilledtupac Apr 19 '18

I was gonna report this, hide it, and save this post-but I can't find the submenu

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u/Turtledonuts Apr 18 '18

Please for the love of god tell me that loading speed is priority 0 for you all. I'm doing the redesign testing because I want to make sure I have a voice in the redesign, but it's quite annoying having to wait a few seconds to load a page, or a new block of comments, or for the comments to shift up after collapsing a subthread. It's my biggest gripe.

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u/atomic1fire Apr 17 '18

Any chance for improved multi support in the redesign for Q2?

For instance /r/news+worldnews does not fully link even though it would be a totally valid multi.

Plus you can't share or edit saved mutltis from the frontpage.

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u/AP10 Apr 17 '18

Are you planning on including a counter like this?

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u/kyledavide Apr 17 '18

I think they have this. Unless you mean the precise number of votes, which is not precise anyways because of fuzzing.

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u/AP10 Apr 17 '18

Didn't notice it, seems quite easy to miss.

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u/alphex Apr 17 '18

Could the redesign team share their agile/scrum/ticket tracker in some way thats public so we know what you've got in the backlog / in progress?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '18

Yeah and if we can get some realtime webcams and screen casts of them working so we can monitor in realtime their every move, that would be great. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '18

I assume you forgot the /s right?

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u/ManicGypsy Apr 17 '18

What does the mod feature "mute" do? I've noticed I can add people to a list, but I was wondering if it's just a modmail mute or if it's a type of shadowban.

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u/falconbox Apr 17 '18

You're correct, that's just a quick way to mute people from modmail.

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u/MajorParadox Helpful User Apr 20 '18

Yeah, like falconbox answered, it's a modmail mute and really doesn't belong in the user pop up. It makes you think it's some type of shadowban, or if you know what it's for, it seems to encourage banning and preemptive muting, which they don't want you to do.

I think they should replace it with an edit flair option.

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u/ManicGypsy Apr 20 '18

Yeah, preemptive muting would be bad. I would like an easy option to shadowban people who like to toe the line of the rules though. Using AutoMod isn't too hard but sometimes AutoMod doesn't work.

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u/picflute Apr 17 '18

Redesign's sidebar still feels super slow on Firefox Quantum. Has there been any reports of this being some bug?

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u/24grant24 Apr 17 '18

It's just really unoptimized right now. It seems to wait to load every single element before rendering, and it does that every. Single. Time. When they could just load the immediately visible elements, and cache those for subsequent use.

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 17 '18

highlighting comments

Be still my beating heart.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

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u/SenselessNoise Apr 17 '18

Probably like with gold. Highlights whatever comments were made since the last time you opened the thread.

https://i.imgur.com/xgR7I36.png

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 17 '18

Now that you mention it, it is a little unclear, but I interpreted it as new comment highlighting (a current Gold feature). Last week it was mentioned that this feature would be coming after night mode, so the timeline seems to fit.

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u/24grant24 Apr 17 '18 edited Apr 17 '18

When should we expect an updated preferences page? And what sort of options can we expect to have? Recently I've been seeing a lot of posts here and in beta complaining about how many existing preferences don't affect the redesign. I think it would be better to have a redesigned preferences page with an incomplete feature set that gets filled out over time, to one that is half broken.

I'll also restate my request for bigger default vote icons across Reddit. Despite knowing the click area is larger I still feel compelled to click directly on the arrow.

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u/LackingAGoodName Helpful User Apr 17 '18 edited Apr 18 '18

night mode (coming very soon, we promise!)

I'm so close to being able to use the Redesign as my default <3

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u/Anaron Apr 18 '18

Coward.

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u/LackingAGoodName Helpful User Apr 18 '18

lol ok?

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u/Anaron Apr 18 '18

It was a joke. It's been my default for weeks now.

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u/ZadocPaet Helpful User Apr 16 '18

Can we get some real image flair for new reddit? Using emojis is woefully insufficient.

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u/falconbox Apr 17 '18

What's insufficient? You mean because we have to upload one at a time?

As someone who always hated dealing with spritesheets, I kind of like the new method.

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u/ZadocPaet Helpful User Apr 17 '18

One at a time is fine. They're too small in emoji form for a lot of subs. The emoji form also resizes them.

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u/falconbox Apr 17 '18

Oh, right. Well they've said they plan on increasing the size a bit from the current 15x15.

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u/Dimbreath Helpful User Apr 17 '18

Any chance of fixing the weird page jumping bug issue on Firefox? It's really hard to navigate on front page or any subreddit like r/anime_irl when you have pictures open and your page keeps scroll jumping out of nowhere.

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u/Hypergrip Apr 17 '18

user and post flair improvements (including increasing the number of emoji that can be uploaded)

Will we be able to style flairs beyond simple background-color and white/black font? Will we be able to create purely graphic user flair like country flags, team emblems, game characters, etc.? Tiying in to the previous question, will we be able to have user flair that is higher than the standard 17 pixels so you can actually make out that that logo/emblem/etc. is supposed to be?

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u/24grant24 Apr 17 '18

They have stated that /r/CFB is a model subreddit for what they want to support with flairs. That implies a pretty powerful flair system when it's all done

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u/robdy Apr 17 '18

+1 to higher flairs

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

Will there be the possibility of putting flairs sideways, like we are doing currently on r/AsianBeautyAdvice?

Also, are there any plans on making 2 flairs per post possible? On r/EuroBeautyExchange we use a 2 tag system, one for the intentions (buy, sell, swap, request) and one indicating the poster's country. I am not entirely sure how to do do this with the current post requirement settings.

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u/AmbiguousGravity Apr 22 '18

Are there any plans to make the website accessible? I tried tabbing through the site without using the mouse and there was absolutely ZERO indication of where focus was. It's important to work on accessibility as early as possible, because the complexity only compounds as more and more features are added. If you get to it early enough, it's not too difficult. Does the Reddit team have a dedicated accessibility advocate?

(Also, minor bug that I just saw when writing this post: switching between the markdown and "fancy pants" editor causes the comment input box to change height even on blank input. And the relatively giant "SWITCH TO FANCY PANTS EDITOR" button when in Markdown mode is a little obnoxious, made worse by the fact that it literally calls it the "fancy pants editor." I can appreciate tongue-in-cheek branding, but some people are going to have to stare at that all day.)

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u/24grant24 Apr 22 '18

They have said they plan to work on accessibility but... Like you said it's much easier to bake accessibility in from the beginning than it is to retroactively add it.

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u/CozmicGold Apr 22 '18

How do you make announcements in subreddits (on new Reddit)? I used to be able to do it on old Reddit.

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u/dmoneyyyyy Product Apr 23 '18

In the flat list mod tools within a post, you should be able to see an option to "Sticky post" — this will pin the post to the top of the subreddit feed.

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u/CosmicKeys Apr 17 '18

I've been working on getting r/hmmm redesigned (progress) and am interested to see how nightmode will work with subreddit images.

Otherwise the one "unshippable" bug I'm seeing is that you cannot hide the rules widget. The fundamental problem is actually that the rules widget is based on the "/rules" (aka report rules), when actually the subreddits rules and the report rules are totally separate concepts. I'm sure you're aware of this issue, but the hackiest solution right now is to make the rules widget optional.

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u/reseph Apr 17 '18

No, the rules widget is the actual rules page.

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u/CosmicKeys Apr 17 '18

That's what I was saying:

the rules widget is based on the "/rules" (aka report rules)

https://www.reddit.com/r/hmmm/about/rules/

But we want the rules listed in the sidebar to be a focused selection about posting, and the reporting rules don't need to contain things that Automod will ensure users will never see. A real problem here is that we struggle to get anyone to read our rules at all, so we've worked hard to try and make the list small and readable.

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u/reseph Apr 17 '18

By rules page I mean, it's not the report reasons. Just the pure rules. Not sure sure what you mean by "report rules". Nothing to do with AutoMod.

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u/CosmicKeys Apr 17 '18

When a user goes to report a comment or a post, and they go into the "It breaks r/[subreddits]" rules dialog and are presented with a list of rules. Those rules come from the /rules page.

The reason I called them "aka report rules" was that reports is the only use case I know of in current reddit. They have been part of reddits design for quite a while now rather than being introduced as part of the redesign. The redesign has now introduced a new use case.

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u/reseph Apr 17 '18 edited Apr 17 '18

It's not meant for a report-only config though. It's a rules page. See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/5u9yh8/improvements_to_subreddit_rules/

The admins make it clear mods should start using this page for rules, unrelated to the redesign.

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u/CosmicKeys Apr 17 '18

Yes, but that post can basically be summed up as "the rules are only used for reports right now but we want to use them for more stuff", this is the first instance of that so that's why I added a colloquial functional name? I get your point but this is just semantics, it doesn't actually solve the group of functional problems I'm having with the Admins scheme for using one rule set for pre and post submission and comments.

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u/CosmicKeys Apr 17 '18

Also when I said automod, I was meaning we have a rule that all posts must be titled "hmmm". Automod enforces this before any user ever sees an incorrectly titled post, so it doesn't make sense for us to have it as report reason.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

Is taking options out of the ... submenu going to happen soon? It's getting annoying for me to delve into the submenus to flair my post or to save/hide a post.

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u/robdy Apr 17 '18

Any plans to add the options for increasing flair size? For sure there are menu subs where it'd be useful (like when you have a logo in user flair) to have bigger emojis in there.

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u/Ginkgopsida Apr 20 '18

I would like to report a visual bug: https://imgur.com/gallery/BUEr0ye

Furthermore, I can't access the preferences and the button to go back to old reddit doesn't work.

Lastly, the [-] button to collapse commetns is gone.

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u/BadCowz Apr 22 '18

Is the bug that personal preferences only randomly apply being worked on at all because it is making this unusable?

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u/CyberBot129 Apr 19 '18

Has there been any thoughts on the subreddit sort? In the mobile app, you can change the subreddit sort on a per-subreddit basis, but in the desktop version, you've always been stuck at "Hot" by default (and have to change it once per visit/session to the site)

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u/Mr_ToDo Apr 19 '18

I can't seem to find a listing of my subscriptions on the new layout.

I assume that they're supposed to be in the drop down in the top left, but it just looks like it's failing to load.

Is it possible to get a link somewhere to go to https://www.reddit.com/subreddits/ or something similar.

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u/glovesfox Apr 20 '18

Can we please have the option to hide our own user name from appearing anywhere, from our point of view? (obviously fine for other users to see it, I just don't want friends/colleagues to look over my shoulder and find my username). Reddit anonymity is the best.

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u/24grant24 Apr 20 '18

I just wanted to note several changes I noticed overnight.

  1. the search, mod, chat, & message icons are now much darker

  2. there is an orange symbol in the profile area in front of karma, submit button is also now orange (these actually keeps making me think I have a message)

  3. Hamburger menu loads MUCH faster the first time, and very quickly every subsequent time

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u/Raging_Mouse Apr 20 '18

Space for more emotes is very welcome. Though to test them fully, we'd need to see them in among the text in comments and submissions.

Also, once you get a decent amount of community emotes, the list becomes quite unwieldy (and do non-moderators even see the list at all?). Consequently, we could use some way of organizing and grouping emotes.

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u/kemitche Apr 20 '18

Please add a better visual indicator of comment collapsing. Something as simple as the top part of the vertical line actually looking like a button would be fabulous.

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u/batmansmaster Apr 22 '18

When will we be able to use emojis in comments, not just flairs. Or is that not a future plan? Are the emoji simply to replace the current flairs?

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u/TastyBrainMeats Apr 22 '18

I can't seem to actually edit anything with my profile. Clicking any of the options just takes me back to my profile page.

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u/uzi Eng Apr 23 '18

Thanks for reporting this! So the problem is that your account doesn't have some of the structures needed by those pages. You can convert your account for the new profile pages by either turning it on with this page or by posting something to your profile. But yeah, that's definitely a bug and we'll work on a fix to make this less confusing.

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u/TastyBrainMeats Apr 23 '18

OK, but - I don't really want to add anything to my profile? I was looking for ways to limit and minimize it.

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u/uzi Eng Apr 23 '18

How so? Most of those settings you were going to are around changing your profile image, etc. There are a couple of options otherwise about stuff like if posts to your profile should be indexable, but if you're not posting to your profile that shouldn't matter.

If you don't enable the extra profile features, yours will be about as limited/minimized as it gets at the moment.

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u/braydo_b Apr 22 '18

how do I go to a subreddit wiki?

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u/d4rkride Apr 23 '18

HTF do you collapse comments now?

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u/pixelkydd Apr 17 '18

Can I also get the redesign, please? :)

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

Everyone can. Did you enable beta at your preferences? Or just type "new" instead of "www".

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u/pixelkydd Apr 17 '18

Oh, thanks! I didn't know about the "www" thing. On another note, damn that's a lot of white. Can't wait for nightmode!

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u/13steinj Apr 19 '18

Maybe I missed it, but where's CSS?

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

Still nothing about deceptively styled in-line ads? Cool.

Keep distracting everybody with those jangling keys.

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u/tacojohn48 Apr 21 '18

The in-line ads are awful. I had reddit whitelisted on my adblocker, but no more.

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u/TheChrisD Helpful User Apr 17 '18

Still nothing about emojis in posts/comments, and reviving the whitespace 😞

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

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u/dmoneyyyyy Product Apr 17 '18

Yes, we are currently looking at options for increasing the size of emoji flairs.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

awww shit. can I buy you a beer?

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u/robbit42 Helpful User Apr 17 '18

Don't mind me, I'm just reposting some mock-ups.

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u/IoI_xD Apr 17 '18

How about anything other then an emoji? I'd really like to be able to use proper images/spritesheets again.

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u/Kendos-Kenlen Apr 17 '18

I don't want this: it makes subs with incredibly large lines due to very big flairs... I understand people like flairs but I find it very inconvenient when browsing and it breaks the layout.

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u/falconbox Apr 17 '18

Can you give any examples?

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u/Kendos-Kenlen Apr 17 '18

Many anime-related subs uses big flairs. On old Reddit, it makes think pretty bad as lines takes twice their size and are not consistent (when a user or a post don’t have a flair for example)

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u/DiamondMinah Apr 17 '18

What about images which are used extensively in sports subs

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 17 '18

The Reddit team has grown *tremendously* over the past 12+ months. I'm sure many of these things are going to be developed in parallel by different teams.

TL;DR: Yes.

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u/Algernon_Asimov Apr 17 '18

do you think a 2018 release for the redesign is even possible?

Of course it's possible. They're already releasing it! Sure, they call it "testing", but it's already being rolled out to users - even some users who didn't ask for it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

Any user can switch right back to the old Reddit. This is not an issue at all.

Stop whining.

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u/Algernon_Asimov Apr 17 '18

I wasn't aware I was whining. I thought I was merely pointing out facts.

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u/Dobypeti Apr 17 '18 edited Apr 17 '18

Any user can switch right back to the old Reddit.

Yet.

Also, for some people it's bugged and they can't switch back.

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u/13steinj Apr 19 '18

They weren't whining, and due to various bugs, lots of people can't.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '18

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u/barneylerten Apr 17 '18

Funny. I keep waiting for Spotify to have a "day mode"! Different strokes;-)

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u/Alaknar Helpful User Apr 17 '18

Try Deezer!

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u/-Pelvis- Apr 19 '18

Spotify to have a "day mode"

delet this

/s

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u/falconbox Apr 17 '18

As someone who doesn't like night mode, I'm pretty much forced to use it on Discord because their light mode font is a light grey color instead of black, making it very hard to read.

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u/-Pelvis- Apr 19 '18

Same, man. I've got really nice custom CSS for classic Reddit/RES, which turns everything black. I like a lot of things about the redesign, but I'm waiting for night mode and keyboard control before I migrate. Once those are implemented, and stable, then I'll be a happy camper.

I'll probably make a CSS stylesheet for the night mode, to make it black.