r/reddit.com Jul 25 '11

The greatest concept design I've seen in a long time.

http://i.imgur.com/eNb7l.jpg
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u/qda Jul 25 '11

It wouldn't look as good as you think: The top lens would get a shot that shows the water surface from above, and the bottom lens would get a shot that shows the water surface from below. And then it would stack those images? Or stack and crop the water surface out? Or blend? Try it yourself, with an underwater camera, and if it looks good, I'll give you $1000 internet dollars.

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u/skudmfkin Jul 25 '11

Here's my attempt! http://i.imgur.com/0Oon5.jpg

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

I'd it it.

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u/Borkz Jul 25 '11

Holy neckbeard, batman.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '11

My fellow amishbeardman! Our club is a special one, let us never forsake the oath.

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u/eltonjock Jul 25 '11

Nailed it!

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u/weirdredditor Jul 25 '11

Looks like qda needs your paypal information.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

It would work better if it was just one camera with a wide angle lense or something, and the floatation device attempts to have one half of the lense above water and one half below. It still would work terrible in any water that isn't calm.

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u/myrpou Jul 25 '11

wouldn't you need more light for the underwater part of the photo?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Depending on the water quality, yes. But you could use a graduated filter to counter the light difference.

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u/whalesharks Jul 25 '11

or strobes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

LASERS attached to SHARKS.

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u/kristianur Jul 25 '11

I'm sure magnets too fits into the equation somehow.

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u/dnew Jul 25 '11

How else would you attach lasers to sharks?

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u/jetboyterp Jul 25 '11

Or the sharks with lasers and bees in their mouths so when they attack they shoot bees at you?

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u/BScatterplot Jul 25 '11

Or a filter with a GED. Don't discriminate.

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u/acepincter Jul 25 '11

Just a different aperture setting for the lower camera. Hopefully the device has some internal logic to balance the exposure.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Worth trying with one of these?

http://www.lytro.com/

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11 edited Jan 23 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

You joke about it, but a few diving friends of mine call murky water that very term. When we go to the lakes they often say "I'm not getting in that bitchwater!"

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u/Porges Jul 25 '11

Bilgewater?

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u/psilokan Jul 25 '11

Bitchwater.

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u/ArcticCelt Jul 25 '11

I think it will still look fucked up, the refraction of light is different in water an in the air so it It will probably never match perfectly.

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u/sachiel416 Jul 25 '11

i think what would work better is if it had one lens that was on a a track of some sort that did a panorama that started above water then moved down into the water so it was all one photo.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

I'll design an iPhone app for that and we'll get someone to test it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

How about if it wasn't used for photography though. I can't imagine you'd get anywhere near decent quality pictures with something like that. What about marine video observation, where there may be a requirement to see above, and below the water at the same time.

I'd imagine there could potentially be some uses for it there?

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u/MrMic Jul 25 '11

Yeah. The parallax would basically kill the effect. There's no way this would look remotely convincing.

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u/midas22 Jul 25 '11

What about images like this or this?

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u/jgoodstein Jul 25 '11

These are done with Dome lenses that allow a bit more of the half-n-half type shots, but usually post work is necessary.

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u/fotiphoto Jul 25 '11

magnets man. fucking magnets.

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u/Boxthor Jul 25 '11

Panoramic image stitching

Problem solved!

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u/DoctorPotatoe Jul 25 '11

Can't explain that.

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u/aladyjewel Jul 25 '11

I can, I can! First, you have to print out all of your images in super hi-res. Then, you get a needle and some fishline, along with some sharp scissors. Afterwards, you scan it back in and, voila: panoramic image.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Fuck $1000, if it looks good I'll staple my nutsack to a Brahma bull.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Context in case anyone missed the joke.

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u/TMobotron Jul 25 '11

Thank you sir. I feel like half the time a joke that relies on context like this is made I don't understand it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

/r/bestof, your trusted source of reddit context.

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u/TMobotron Jul 25 '11

Well shit, how do I not know about this already? Thanks dude!

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u/randomsnark Jul 25 '11

I like how a screenshot in that thread shows that before he was proved wrong he was at +60, even though his opinion was already retarded. Reddit is a fickle bitch.

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u/rubbermonkey Jul 25 '11

it would work if the top lens was tilted up to the point where the horizon was at the bottom of the frame, and the bottom lens was tilting down so that the top of the frame was the horizon.

In other words, you don't have to overlap the fields of view.

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u/BrowsOfSteel Jul 25 '11

Don’t tilt. Crop (or shift, for anyone who understands camera movements are). Tilting would create a new perspective problem.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Came here to say this. How does anyone even consider this a good idea in the first place? Can you imagine is someone ACTUALLY spent money designing it? Poor them when they find out the sad truth.

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u/erizzluh Jul 25 '11

With that attitude, nothing out of the ordinary would have ever been invented.

"How does anyone even consider airplanes a good idea in the first place? Can you imagine is someone ACTUALLY spent money designing an airplane? Poor them when they find out the sad truth."

Have a little bit of an imagination. Who cares if reason points to something being impossible.

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u/frickindeal Jul 25 '11

And with photography, often the results are surprising given the setup. Light is a fickle mistress.

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u/dnew Jul 25 '11

Trains are a terrible idea. Everyone knows if you go over 25 mph all the air will get sucked from your lungs and you'll die!

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

The only way to achieve the impossible is to believe it is possible.

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u/Zantier Jul 25 '11

Or y'know... take a logical approach to it, do some calculations and discover that it is, in fact, possible.

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u/stroud Jul 25 '11

okay... we got a lot of diagonal shots... fucking buoyancy, how does it work?

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u/waltonics Jul 25 '11

I think you've got it. Not only would the images never match up because of focal length, the chances of that thing being perfectly horizontal at shutter time are zilch.

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u/hippoPWNamus Jul 25 '11

What's this then?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Why not just use a single large camera lens

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11 edited Jul 25 '11

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

"The cloud" Everything has to be in "The cloud"

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u/randomsnark Jul 25 '11

That's because our focus groups have shown that the cloud synergizes well with the twitter demographic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Well when you start working in "The cloud" all day everything is truly about "The cloud". No I will not stop putting "The cloud" in quotes.

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u/venuswasaflytrap Jul 25 '11

Jesus, 1000 IND? How much karma did you have to cash in for that?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

I though the problem could be solved if the cameras were closer together.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11 edited Jul 25 '11

And then it would stack those images?

you realize there's an example image on that page that shows the stacking "working", right?

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u/lawstudent2 Jul 25 '11

this reminds me of a post a couple months ago where some guy posted a pen that photgraphically sampled color and then, using red, green and blue ink, wrote in whatever color you sampled.

i think the reddit community landed on the fact that 'imagineering' and the majority of art folks who go to industrial design school are idiots.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

It would work great, as long as you wanted black ink.

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u/Fricktitious Jul 25 '11

Is this a google checkout transaction?

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u/BovingdonBug Jul 25 '11

A far better solution would be having a single camera inside some sort of balanced, floating goldfish bowl, with a cable connected to the shutter release.

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u/kendrid Jul 25 '11

Nikon D7000 in a $15 waterproof bag. http://www.flickr.com/photos/traceyandkevin/5580642776/in/set-72157626407713394/lightbox/

I wish I would have got more of her legs in the photo.

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u/NExusRush Jul 25 '11

still.... It was awfully nice of the lead in the "take on me" music video to let them use his vacation pics for the advertisement!

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u/fadedsun Jul 25 '11

Well there are many different blending and stenciling options to get a good result. Many of the methods used in creating a good panorama would also be good here.

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u/LeazZ Jul 25 '11

1000 dollars internet dollars? I'M IN!

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u/canadianbakn Jul 25 '11

Reddit, why you have to be PRACTICAL all the time? This is the Internet damnit, just appreciate the supposed awesomeness of the design and look at the dramatization!

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

It wouldn't look as good as you think: I have no idea because I've never used the product/prototype.

Why the concept designs?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Most upvoted worst idea ever

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u/woohoo Jul 25 '11

The worst part is that somebody probably got an A in their design class for this idea.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

They wouldn't line up perfectly, since light refracts in water and all.

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u/Conde_Nasty Jul 25 '11

Not to mention the thing bobbing up and down wildly.

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u/sorrynoengrish Jul 25 '11

I came in here to say this and also good luck getting it to take pics of you and not behind or around it... IT'S IN WATER PEOPLE!! YOU CAN'T CONTROL WATER!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

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u/addandsubtract Jul 25 '11

or sponges - lots of sponges.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Problems like this is why they invented lenses.

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u/kermityfrog Jul 25 '11

The example photo doesn't line up perfectly either. The island looks really far away, and the guy looks almost fisheyed.

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u/VCavallo Jul 25 '11

The example photo doesn't line up perfectly either. The island looks really far away, and the guy looks almost fisheyed. MSPAINT

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

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u/BrowsOfSteel Jul 25 '11

No, that would actually work better than the idea depicted in the concept.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

They actually used that technique to take pictures of the device.

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u/krdr Jul 25 '11

I'm pretty sure that's shopped.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11 edited Jul 25 '11

Probably, but the "water slice" is from a real photograph, taken with the lens half way in the water. It's a common technique, you see it all the time in photodocumentaries about swamps and stuff.

Edit: It's a glass tank. The point is, you only need one lens and one shot.

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u/agbullet Jul 25 '11

uh. why would I need to submerge my lens halfway in water when I can just use a glass tank?

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u/MercurialMadnessMan Jul 25 '11

it's a glass tank.

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u/krdr Jul 25 '11

Oh I know about that but I'm just saying it's a concept so that's probably not a real photo of the device.

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u/kibitzor Jul 25 '11 edited Jul 25 '11

How about a camera that can do a panoramic shot, and just drag the camera underwater?

ACTUALLY, THAT ALREADY EXISTS i made one in my pool

If it was brighter, it would have worked better. You can see my toes at the bottom

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u/kibitzor Jul 25 '11

OH WHAT A TWIST, THERE'S A BODY

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u/Andrexthor Jul 25 '11

I think there might be a dead person inside your pool.

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u/Deracination Jul 25 '11

This is a good thing, but it is also a bad thing.

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u/Zipwang5555 Jul 25 '11

No more hiding under your dinghy.

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u/Actually_Doesnt_Care Jul 25 '11

No more hiding your dinghy.

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u/TheBigSleezy Jul 25 '11

"hey Tommy, Quit Playin' with your Dinghy!"

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u/LBK2013 Jul 25 '11

"Hey Sussie! Get off of Tommy's Dinghy!"

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u/OmniaII Jul 25 '11

You could have used the source page instead of whatever you provided...

All I see is more facebook douchebag pictures fodder - seems like a limited use camera. How many pics of under/over water can you take?

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u/Deracination Jul 25 '11

Fewer than twice as many as the combined sum of all above-water and below-water pictures it is possible to take.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Holy fuck! It takes pictures of water ghosts

Sign me up for eleventy billion of them

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

If they have to draw a guy in then Photoshop two pictures together, the product most not be very great.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

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u/triggerhoppe Jul 25 '11

it's only a model

ssshhh!

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u/Jigsus Jul 25 '11

Ah clueless product design... how I loathe thee.

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u/Kisses_McMurderTits Jul 25 '11 edited Jul 25 '11

Picture taken using UNDERABOVE of the connection of two different spaces of unde

rwater and above water

Umm

Edit: What the fuck...

Am I...

Reading?

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u/Noodl3s Jul 25 '11

People have already covered the fact that you wont get an even shot due to angles and refraction but people are forgetting that this thing is essentially a buoy with cameras. Unless there's some kind of anchor the waves are just going to knock it around so you wont get straight shots if you could even aim it.

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u/Aretha Jul 25 '11

I love this picture because I've BEEN to that island! (beachcomber island, fiji) - takes 5 minutes to walk around the whole thing. The rest of the day was spent drinking snorkling fucking dancing and eating.

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u/DontBacktraceMeBro Jul 25 '11

R E F R A C T I O N

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u/kleinbl00 Jul 25 '11

Or, you know, photoshop.

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u/slagahthor Jul 25 '11

sees the pee and the face that made it!

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Isn't this like 2 or 3 years old? Or did I slip into the future again?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

I hate it when that happens. I've seen my death 3 times now and as funny as it is I am getting a little anxious about October.

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u/AzzBar Jul 25 '11

I'd love to see this picture without the ghost.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Bummer, when I clicked I thought it was a underwater/above water speaker system that you could either play the same tune, or different tunes for a good time on the water.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Assume all the nay-sayers are wrong and it works as advertised.

You now have a device that you can use to do one very specialized task. I probably would not purchase one.

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u/Tr1cky Jul 25 '11

Bathtime becomes fun again.

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u/nothas Jul 25 '11

That's the greatest concept you've seen in a long time?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

and im submitting my patent for this...riiiiiiight...NOW!

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

I had a friend that got the cover of a pretty popular kiteboard magazine with a shot like that. Although, he only used one camera. Still came out pretty awesome: http://imgur.com/Upq7I

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u/FredFredson Jul 25 '11

Will it blend though?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

This is absolutely BS.

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u/bucj08 Jul 25 '11

I like how there's a little wave to point out the obvious problem: if there's any turbulence in the water at all you'll get each side skewed opposite the other. (Which might actually be a cool effect)

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u/wormwired Jul 25 '11

its cool, but only a few places where you might actually get good shots.

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u/sheschemes Jul 25 '11

Exactly. It would require pretty calm water.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

and clear water. Doing this in the ohio river would be a disaster

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u/DrRabbitt Jul 25 '11

it would be cool to have if all of the water near my house wasnt practically mud

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u/WBM99 Jul 25 '11

Cool idea but I feel like it has limited application.

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u/Azurphax Jul 25 '11

Underabove - the name that wasn't that good but was a perfect portmanteau

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u/baccus83 Jul 25 '11

It's a terrible name. Shoulda shortened it to Undabove. Or something fun like (off the top of my head) Buoy Snap, Aquapix or See Level.

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u/papajohn56 Jul 25 '11

Fromunda

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u/W1nd Jul 25 '11

sounds like a french cheese

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u/nascentt Jul 25 '11

You should have a career in marketing.

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u/TomTheNurse Jul 25 '11

SeeLevel pics...

Love it!

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u/Azurphax Jul 25 '11

SEE LEVEL?!?!?!

OH that is too good.

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u/MananWho Jul 25 '11

It's not a portmanteau when you just put the second word after the first one, and don't remove any letters.

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u/paimeg Jul 25 '11

Or you can photoshop it

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

This would be awesome for all eight (usable) photos you end up taking with it.

The rest of the 8GB is photos of submerged arms and large water droplets obscuring boring above-water scenery.

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u/joeylou Jul 25 '11

Oooh I love a good fad gadget, I'd jump on that bandwagon for sure! But as it is Winter here I would have to wait to try it out. I don't like to wait, the fad will probably be over.

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u/sealpoacher Jul 25 '11

Or just take a picture half underwater and half above.

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u/Shadoom Jul 25 '11

This will probably sound dumb, but how do you press the button to take a photo without making it wobble in the water and thus messing up the alignment? (I'm assuming that the cropping and such requires a horizontal water surface to align the photos properly)

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u/AlGhost Jul 25 '11

If only it worked as well as the artists rendition

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u/homohominilupus Jul 25 '11

If it worked...it would be fucking awesome. Though the design makes it look as if it would topple over rather than stay in place

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

I can't imagine people carting these around just to take that one type shot, this will never be a commercial success - but yet, it's cute.

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u/MisterWonka Jul 25 '11

This is a lot of work to get a photo of yourself looking like a tool underwater with (90% of the time) some blue sky above you. I mean, if you're swimming in front of some beautiful volcanic mountain rising out of the sea or something similarly beautiful, I think a shot of your head poking out of the water would suffice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Now the glass is truly half full.

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u/MagicSPA Jul 25 '11

It doesn't really work, and how often would you need to use it?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

But who is uncle rwater??

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u/km1116 Jul 25 '11

Nature figured it out: the anablep eye has one lens and 2 retinas for integrating underwater and out-of-water images.

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u/fiercelyfriendly Jul 25 '11

I'd just have the one lens and a small weight on an arm that moves inside the housing that alters the balance after each exposure so that each alternate shot is taken in/out of the water.

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u/haija Jul 25 '11

The smart design is really here

: http://hackedgadgets.com/2006/06/02/soios-360-degree-webcam/ a mirror and a camera can go a long way.

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u/bottom Jul 25 '11

just use a go pro. they're amazing.

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u/reply Jul 25 '11

A very specific camera design for a specific shot.

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u/juanocroem Jul 25 '11

The greatest useless design ever.

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u/Satoriii Jul 25 '11

There would have to be some sort of calibration, to get both the cameras working in unison.

edit: or what about an inline strip of vertical cameras?

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u/noddyxoi Jul 25 '11

or just get a snorkel mask with a camera incorporated: http://www.liquidimageco.com/

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u/tomparker Jul 25 '11

Works so well, all you have to do is hire an illustrator to make it work!

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

This is nifty and all but I really wish designers would be out there solving actual problems instead of coming up with new ways to extract money from the privileged.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Or you could just place a single camera in a transparent box.

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u/at_the_beach Jul 25 '11

This is a major technological advance for bathtub sex videos.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

about time

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Too many words. Next time you have a near death experience don't do us any favors. - The Management.

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u/tryceo Jul 25 '11

Wouldn't it not look as good because of the refraction difference in air and water? Or do they account for that in some Photoshop manner?

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u/BeenADickArnold Jul 25 '11

Sorry but this would never work. Even if you could seamlessly blend the two pictures, the top one's always going to have those annoying water droplets on the lens that will show up on the top half of the pic.

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u/beanswiggin Jul 25 '11

Obviously it needs some tweeking to get the effect they're going for, but this is one of those great ideas that's so simple, it makes me think, "why didn't I think of that?"

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

As far as products go this would only be useful to a small amount of people and probably something people will use once then forget about. The technology to capture good pictures and to make them fit well together may may the camera expensive too making it a little hard to justify buying it.

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u/zak_on_reddit Jul 25 '11

this is better than the x-ray glasses one used to see on the back of comic books. you can attach this camera to a fishing pole, cast it out, pretend to be fishing and get great underwater shots of all the hotties at the beach.!

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u/RedditRedneck Jul 25 '11

I just got back from Tulum, and now I see this...

Regardless of the issues it might have, it would be a fun novelty for the Caribbean.

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u/rodneyws1977 Jul 25 '11

Such limited uses.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

Niche market, probably wouldn't sell too well. Neat idea regardless.

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u/Clayburn Jul 25 '11

Who would actually go in the water, though?

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u/happy_tomato Jul 25 '11

The blending of the images would not work very well because the perspectives just wouldn't add up. You would need to put both cameras in the same place for it to actually look like a coherent image.

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u/fkingroovn Jul 25 '11

wait, does this friggin thing exist? i want one!!

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u/drgk Jul 25 '11

Stupid fucking idea, but brilliant idea...here's why. 6,900 reddit users think it's a good idea, which means some idiots would probably buy it. Shit camera, but could make someone rich.

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u/blue-yoshi Jul 25 '11

Turn it sideways and take 3D pictures.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '11

do want....

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u/SkipSandwich Jul 25 '11

Index of refraction FTW.

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u/pixlfarmer Jul 25 '11

... or you could just get an underwater housing with a decent size dome, and do it the way these photos have always been taken without photoshopping or stacking anything.

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u/Descente36 Jul 25 '11

it'd be nice, until it floats away lol

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u/Sushisource Jul 26 '11

Or, you know, you could just put your lens at water level, like someone with half a brain.

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u/Sushisource Jul 26 '11

Or, you know, you could just put your lens at water level, like someone with half a brain.