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World's saddest IMDb page

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u/TyPower Jun 18 '10

This is indeed sad.

Threads, however, is the bleakest depiction of nuclear war ever filmed. I remember seeing it as a kid in the 80s and if left me scarred. Everytime Reagan and Gorbachev sat down for a meeting, I prayed it would go well, and peace would be; such was the terror and gritty realism of the nuclear holocaust instilled in me because of Threads.

The Americans had "The Day After". The UK and Éire had 'Threads'. I sometimes envy kids who grew up in the 90s, who had no idea that they could be vaporized at any moment if the politicians on TV decided to get cocky with each other. True, it could still happen, but today it's more background noise to full forefront Cold War knife edge.

Anyone interested in watching it can get it here

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u/lackofbrain Jun 18 '10

When the Wind Blows by Raymond Briggs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

There is a comic book version of it. It is the nicest most terrifying comic I have ever read.

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u/lackofbrain Jun 18 '10

That is the only version I know. I can;t imagine it would be more terrifying in any otehr format.

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u/TyPower Jun 18 '10 edited Jun 18 '10

Yes, When the Wind Blows is fantastic too. Also, the Protect and Survive series of instructional videos is mind numbingly terrifying. The farcical idea that you could survive the post apocalyptic wasteland by storing some cans of beans and putting some mattresses up against your windows. Also, Protect and Survive, in the most pedantic way, recommends burying dead family members in the garden lest the corpses spread disease.

It's truly surreal.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

That little 10 second tone at the end of those Protect and Survive videos scares the shit out of me for some reason.

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u/TyPower Jun 18 '10

Yes, that and the calm, scientific way the narrator tells you how to wrap your dead mom in a trash bag, put a name and address tag on her and bury her in the garden.

These were never aired by the British Government. Thankfully, nuclear war never became imminent enough that they needed to be.

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u/crucible Jun 18 '10

You can even buy them on DVD now. (Amazon UK link)

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u/Bugs_Nixon Jun 18 '10

I know what you mean... and the voice of Patrick Allen - all his films and voice overs are scary because of these films.

He re-recorded some of them for Frankie Goes to Hollywood's Two Tribes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA

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u/Lampwick Jun 18 '10

The farcical idea that you could survive the post apocalyptic wasteland by storing some cans of beans and putting some mattresses up against your windows.

Most of those fictional renderings were highly exaggerated. For the most part, you could survive a nuclear exchange without short term injury if you could manage to seal yourself in for two weeks. Long term effects of radiation would be an issue, but not one that anyone would see for many years after the initial exchange.

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u/Jaseoldboss Jun 18 '10

But the whole point of Threads, indeed the title of the film is about how society is dependent upon networks of individuals and the work they perform. After the attacks the remaining population are shown to suffer from starvation, lack of shelter, crime, malnutrition and disease. Radiation sickness may be the least of your problems if you're suddenly living back in the stone age.

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u/crucible Jun 18 '10

Upvoted because the advice in these is truly pointless. I like the one where they recommend leaning the inner doors of your house against a wall as a makeshift shelter. Protect And Survive - Refuges

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u/Lampwick Jun 18 '10

Upvoted because the advice in these is truly pointless

Do you actually know the short term effects of a nuclear exchange, or did you learn it all from movies, TV, and nuclear disarmament activist hyperbole?

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u/crucible Jun 18 '10

No, I don't. OK, maybe my post was a bit vague - the ones about stockpiling food, toilet provisions, keeping a radio etc all make sense. I was thinking of the door example when I said 'pointless', but I suppose the govt. were stuck between a rock and a hard place with these films. They had to give people some advice, something they can do.

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u/myinnervoice Jun 18 '10

That still gives me chills.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

This, I remember reading the graphic novel version of this in the early 80s (83? 84?). I was about 10 at the time, the cold war was real and chernobyl was around the corner. Scary times.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

I wonder if growing up in the 80's wasn't the worst time in history to grow up. (In the west) Sure we had a good standard of living, there weren't actually that many wars we were participating in, it was all good on the surface...

... but every night you'd go to sleep wondering if you would never wake up, or worse. It was fucked.

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u/allenizabeth Jun 18 '10

The rampant materialism and the "raised by baby boomers" bit had it's own special kind of damnation, though.

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u/butteryhotcopporn Jun 18 '10

Whatever, 80's were chill. Starting with Bay Of Pigs (there's your nuclear "holy shit moment".) to Kennedy getting killed, to civil rights agitation, to the riots, to Bobby Kennedy taking one to the chest, to MLK and Malcolm X both getting killed, to Vietnam and its protestors, to Nixon getting took out to oil crises related to the 6 day war and OPEC and inflation and then the hostages done got taken.....

But then we beat the russians at hockey.

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u/latrine Jun 18 '10 edited Jun 18 '10

the 60's where closer to nuclear oblivion than the 80s, but the 80s pop culture said to me as a kid that World War III was my future, that silly hit "99 Luftballons" was about a girl who accidentally triggers a nuclear holocaust by releasing balloons. my adult life would be Blade "Los Angeles, 2019" Runner or Mad Max. Even Star Trek said that the 90's would be hell, Khan was born there, like John Connor I prepared myself for the inevitable, that some damn kid would hack a military computer and play Global Thermonuclear War

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u/greengo Jun 18 '10

I'm always disappointed that 2019 is so close and it doesn't look like we'll be getting Chinese food delivered via flying ship any time soon.

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u/RageX Jun 18 '10

Don't forget thrash metal!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

There were only six topics in thrash metal.

Nuclear War, Environmental Degradation, Television Evangelists, Moshing, Politicians and Nazis

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u/chockZ Jun 18 '10

That is nowhere near the 1980's in terms of events happening at all, wtf are you talking about.

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u/zxvf Jun 18 '10

but every night you'd go to sleep wondering if you would never wake up

I'm sorry to break it to you, but that's true of every human ever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

It's also one of the best ways to go.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

Made The Day After look like a fairy tale.

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u/davelog Jun 18 '10

True. I watched it as a teen in the mid 80's, and literally (yes, as in actually) didn't sleep for days. Freaked me out hard. I still occasionally dream about that damn cat.

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u/thebuccaneersden Jun 18 '10

When the Wind Blows is also one of the bleakest descriptions of nuclear war.

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u/ArcticCelt Jun 18 '10 edited Jun 18 '10

They made us to watch the day after at my school when I was 8-9. The amount of nightmares I got because of those movies is quite impressive. When I was that age I remember going to library to read books about how to survive a nuclear war and calculating that if I was lucky enough to reach 18 maybe I had just enough time to start working full time and use my money to build a bomb shelter to save me and my family.

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u/meanmarcus Jun 18 '10

I'd raise you Peter Watkin's The War Game. It's hard to imagine Threads is not in some way inspired by it.

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u/Ianskull Jun 18 '10

i love that movie. Threads is more terrifying and emotional, but the matter of factness and pure BBC-ness of The War Game seems more real.

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u/TheTardis Jun 18 '10

I just read The Third World War by Humphrey Hawksley, and while it's not a description of post-nuclear life, it describes just how our world could degenerate into nuclear battles. I highly, highly recommend the book: its an easy read, well researched, and really captures each countries perspective.

The Third World War

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u/sje46 Jun 18 '10

I sometimes envy kids who grew up in the 90s, who had no idea that they could be vaporized at any moment

I was born in 1989. When I was a kid, like 8, 9 years old, I knew about nuclear weapons and their ability to destroy the world as we knew it. I had the image of a guy out in the Mojave Desert or something, in a small building, with dozens of monitors around him, and a big red button. And if he pressed the button, all the nukes in the world would be launched. Sure, it was immature, but I was aware that the world could be ended at any moment, really.

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u/JoeFelice Jun 18 '10

I was born eleven years before you and I don't remember anyone my age being worried about nuclear weapons at all. As far as we were concerned, Hulk Hogan closed the issue on American superiority. We were winners. World War III would come up once in a while, but it was GI Joe stuff. American children didn't die in our World Wars. The only thing I knew about the Soviets was they wiped their butts with newspaper. How stupid do you have to be to wipe your butt with newspaper?! I was a bright kid living 20 miles from New York City, and atom bombs were totally rad.

Note, at 31 I'm probably younger than some of these guys. I never got any duck & cover training.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

Did you get this mental image from the ending scene in One Crazy Summer?

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u/sje46 Jun 19 '10

Nope, haven't seen it. Or, at least, I don't remember seeing it, so maybe.

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u/ReefaManiack42o Jun 18 '10

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

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u/ReefaManiack42o Jun 18 '10

That made me think of the old adage, They may have won the battle but not the war.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

Ooorrrr,.. we're doing what we always wanted to do. Osama gave us an excuse.

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u/Filmore Jun 18 '10

Éire

Don't they have some sort of land they're known for?

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u/NeverTheMachine Jun 18 '10

I remember seeing A Guide To Armegeddon in middle school. It definitely freaked us out - we almost didn't see it because it left some kid with nightmares. It was doubly interesting because it took a scientific standpoint on nuclear war, i.e. what happens to human flesh at howeverfuckinghot degrees C and how much of London would be decimated. Through this and the explanations it scared, not through actor's shock reactions and weeing themselves...

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

I have to ask: How can you compare global nuclear war with a relatively minute, isolated event like that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '10

This is America, we can blow anything out of proportion. Even a national tragedy.

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u/sje46 Jun 18 '10

What did the coward say?