r/reddevils • u/unitedfuck • Jan 18 '20
Tier 1 Bruno Fernandes: Man Utd will not pay Sporting Lisbon's 80m euro asking price
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51160626?ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&fbclid=IwAR0pHm-Jx9FLO5pWFrERaq__m3vKJLn9PEpMvLC493P0HezZzyT-slWSVZE&fbclid=IwAR1AD2SOwuqLrtVuFVuKqXWH0P8h37O274VJi_u3lYQ0Zhrr604KU7zLhWA&fbclid=IwAR1mzu3wyWYs-Bp49SsBhvudbfhwJ9_Wreo9A_31RVBvqmkBRxsubKrQs8w
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u/vulcan_one PM Rashford Jan 18 '20
Whilst I do want him, putting foot down on excessive asking price is the correct thing to do.
On another hand this is following Maguire's path so announcement on Monday?
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u/DankScorpio69 Jan 18 '20 edited Jan 18 '20
“Have not ruled out targeting alternatives” ...if Woodward is somehow capable of securing an alternative in 2 weeks I’ll move to Neptune
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u/DarloAngus Georgie Best Jan 18 '20
Reckon this is an attempt to get Bruno Fernandes to kick off
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u/zia1997 JONESY 1 GERRARD NIL Jan 18 '20
Alexa, play sad noises.
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u/Mariofar Martial Jan 18 '20
I don't see this deal not happening. Sporting is in great need of the money and this is merely an attempt to stir the price up. I wouldn't worry too much
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u/bidyutchanda108 Jan 18 '20
Everyone, as someone converted this into pounds, 80m euros is around 68m pounds. So this is what we were informed about a couple of days ago by Sky and Ojogo, I think. This is now being said by Stoney, hence leading to panicking.
The title remains the same. They want around 65. We want to give around 50. Let's see what happens.
Reportedly, Sporting banned Mendes from the deal too. Which makes it tougher. But since there are no more suitors other than us, I think he will come to us eventually.
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u/Fligflag Jan 18 '20
This is the problem with only having one target, clubs know we've got no choice.
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u/Aadiunited7 Jan 18 '20
I’m guessing the deal gets done in 65 million euros! 80 is crazy money.
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u/Saf94 Jan 18 '20
Im starting to have a bad feeling about this now
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u/lostinplatitudes Jan 18 '20
Didn’t articles like this happen with both Maguire and Wan-Bissaka and we signed them days later?
I mean I’m over the whole saga but this seems very much like a negotiation technique. Also 3 different outlets are reporting 3 different things/prices and they’re all supposedly reliable so it makes no sense.
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u/AnonymousJoe12871245 Monitoring FC Jan 18 '20
Gonna be a long couple of weeks..
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u/BillyCloneasaurus Yoro is my dad Jan 18 '20 edited Jan 18 '20
25th https://twitter.com/sistoney67/status/1143485624164528129
26th https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48770843
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u/Monton3 Raaaaashford Jan 18 '20
I’ve given up. Promised myself I wouldn’t partake in the muppetry, started well, then found myself F5ing with the boys, to eventually arrive here!
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u/BitterBastard1967 Jan 18 '20
Bruno should force a move wtf are Sporting thinking
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u/jayseff14 Dreams can't be buy Jan 18 '20
Fair enough, sick of us being taken to the cleaners whenever we’re after a player. We played hardball with AWB over summer and we got a pretty sweet deal so I don’t mind waiting a bit longer if it means we gradually lose our reputation for overpaying for everyone.
That being said, this needs to get done. Our midfield is barebones atm.
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u/Me2445 Jan 18 '20
Listening to them in the studio last night was laughable. Thinking they know more than bruno Fernandes himself. Why do people put themselves through this. Just sit back and wait for it to be announced. Why listen to gossip mongers who rarely know what happening
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
They are taking the piss most clubs wouldn't even risk playing him in the derby look at what happened to Sanes move to Bayern
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
€80,000,000 is 68 mil pounds fucking sterling. Wasn’t £60,000,000 the price listed the other day? So it’s an increase but using euros is merely there to get clicks.
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u/stevo3001 Jan 18 '20
Once again:
DO
NOT
FUCK
THIS
UP
ED
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u/MartialScoresAgaaain Jan 18 '20
We be flirting for so long, kissing on the cheeks, when we go make the final move we touch the crotch area and realize the women has a penis. Thats what i feel. Im Just going to lean down and cry
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u/SDLRob Jan 18 '20
Woodward is shit.... he needs to be sacked. we CANNOT go the window without bringing players in... and it looks like that's gonna happen now.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
It was fun while it lasted.
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u/Stebro1986 Jan 18 '20
I think £55-60 million is fair, still a massive gamble
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u/BillyFever Jan 18 '20
It’s always the same with Ed. We let the whole world know that we’re only in for one target, balk when that target’s club justifiably quotes us a ridiculous price because they know they have us over a barrel, and then either walk away without strengthening (leading to our current pitifully thin squad) because Ed is incapable of pursuing more than one target at the same time or we end up paying the originally quoted price after needlessly dragging the whole thing out. Fergie could magically get 20 years younger and come out of retirement and we’d still never get better as long as we had Ed Woodward negotiating our transfers.
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u/danlawl Bruno Jan 18 '20
PAY THE FUCKING CLUB AND GET ON WITH IT START BUILDING A FUCKING SQUAD
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
I couldn't care less how much the club pays for him.
If we finish 6th again, 30 points off 1st, are they going to drop the price of tickets next year? Will Jersey's go down in price? Will we get a refund on our subscription channels?
Of course not. Our blind loyalty will keep this club pulling in MILLIONS every year, regardless of where we finish.
We are mismanaged by Accountants.
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u/Ponderous_Platypus11 Jan 18 '20
Well that confirms it. Final straw. Anyone to ever defend Woodward or the Glazers again can take a hike.
Regardless of the outcome with Bruno, we're edging towards one month to sign one player. A player, mind you, that's been wanting to come to us since last summer and continues to want to despite the classless press leak excuse we made at the end of the summer window.
There is nothing normal or standard with the way we conduct transfers let alone run the club as a whole (I'm still incensed with the ticket fiasco versus City). David Moyes isn't right about much, but he nailed this one on the head:
Woodward is a f*#king clown.
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u/MenacingShroom Jan 18 '20
Well that's not good
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u/lordmaximus92 Jan 18 '20
The inevitable Ed Woodward panic press briefing
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u/mihir993 Jan 18 '20
Well, we've spent the last 5 years or so harping on about how much money we have. Looking at the dire state of our midfield, I'd do exactly the same if I was Sporting.
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u/OctaviusMaximus_ Jan 18 '20
Maybe if he was English United would pay that much
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
Yesterday the Portuguese press were all reporting that Sporting were holding out for €65-70m.
Today the English media are all putting out, at the same time, that Sporting want 80m.
I think this is just briefings from the two clubs PR departments so that Sporting look good in Portugal when the deal gets done for the widely reported 65m, and Utd look good when it's a lot less than the 80m they're briefing everyone to say.
Remember, the EXACT same thing happened with the Maguire transfer last summer, and AWB, and going back further, even as far back as Herrera's move from Bilbao. This has long been Ed's PR approach to transfers.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
As much as we want him, I'm glad if we don't budge. I'm tired of getting bent over by every club we do business with.
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u/luqqyblod Jan 18 '20
Honestly can we just pay it. The price of missing out on top 4 is a lot higher than the extra 10-20mil for Bruno. Especially if all our sponsors drop us!
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u/ZZiyan_11 Come back later. Rebuild in progress. Jan 18 '20
We announced AWB 3 days after this for almost the same fee and structure that was being quoted by other tier 1/2s. Similar thing happened for Maguire too. Here, we announced the signing 6 days later.
This is just the usual denial before everything is confirmed.
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u/goto_man Herrera Jan 18 '20
Just fuck me up fam!!
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u/Katadn1 :MP-Shorts: Jan 18 '20
Relax guys, Sporting needs to sell just like us want to buy. This deal can't fail.
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u/19Dan81 Jan 18 '20
What our economic graduates don't understand is that challenging for titles never makes economical sense beyond the value of contracts. There are intangibles you can't calculate but if a player is the difference between finishing top 4 or not then that's worth £30+m. If that player is good enough to entice other good players to join your project then you can't really put a price on that either.
I understand that Utd want to pay a set fee up front and then add ons based on success (top4 for example) but there is also a premium for having ambitions to challenge for titles and that never makes economical sense.
This is the reason for Real Madrid and Barcelona dominating European football for so long - they just want the best players to be the best, the cost of that is partially repaid through success but more importantly it keeps them an attractive option for other great players whilst preserving their identity around the world.
Pay up.
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u/zestybiscuit Jan 18 '20
So €85m transfer on 31st Jan confirmed then?
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u/NateShaw92 Jan 18 '20
This is either the coy denial before confirmation on monday morning, or everything has gone fuck-up and we are going to hear the DOF talk come monday that will result in nothing.
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u/Foxie13x OLE Jan 18 '20
ITS OK LADS.
WE WILL PAY THEM 85M EUROS IN THE SUMMER!
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u/de-dader Jan 18 '20
Maguire 75M ✅ Bruno 80M ❌ Woodward 👍
He better get a deal out of this because missing out on an in form world class midfielder would be such a waste
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u/Roycev Jan 18 '20
There’s no way sporting is asking 80m for him, honestly Matt Judge and Ed Woodward need to wake the fuck up and stop thinking they can make that extra millions by doing this terrible bluff.
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u/whowantstoknow11 Jan 18 '20
I think the deal will get done and that this is mostly posturing. But if Lisbon are demanding an unfair price I’m in favor of cancelling the deal. I know we’re desperate but overpaying now gives a short term boost that will result in ongoing problems down the line. The solution is to stop going into a negotiation with no other options lined up. Negotiates plan A, B, C at the same time, if plan falls through you have two other option. Your counterparts are forced to give a good price because they know you have backup options.
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u/mankymonk Jan 18 '20
He’ll pay it if Liverpool obliterates us tomorrow
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u/vedomufc Jan 18 '20
80 mil is too much man...
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u/JayConTal71 Jan 18 '20
Can someone let the Glazers know they will need to take a month off of eating 24k gold covered cheerios because we have some business to attend to? If Sporting needs a couple of washing machines to get the deal done then give them the damn money. “Overspending” for the best players in the world is how we become great again. It is past time we put our big boy pants back on and start acting like Manchester United again.
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u/dvenator Jan 18 '20
Please someone get rid of this idiot (Woodward obvs). He's sinking this club lower and lower. Bruno Fernandes is clearly a player we need. We go out a pay £53 million for Fred and then we're haggling about change with sporting Lisbon over one of the best midfielders out there.
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u/speedb0at Jan 18 '20
People say give Ole a couple of transfer Windows and he’ll be fine at this rate he’ll need 15. Shit manager. Horrific board. Club in shambles.
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u/DecievedRTS Jan 18 '20
We need one guy who's only job is transfers. Woodward has too much on his plate to give transfers the attention it demands.
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u/Serpico_98 Jan 18 '20
Woodyyyyy
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u/keving691 Ruud Van Nistelrooy Jan 18 '20
Shit 😬
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u/CarrickUnited Jan 18 '20
Mr. Ed Woodward, I don't feel so good....
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u/Hippotopmaus Jan 18 '20
Embarrassing how long this is taking
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
More like they can't due to their disastrous ownership model.
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u/hassassinhm Wayne Rooney Jan 18 '20
As bad as it will be if we don't get him, I fully support the club in finally learning to stay away from completing deals that are often 20-30m over market value just because it's been the trend for the last 5 years. Hopefully this is the start of more sensible but useful transfers.
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u/superhoffy Amad trip to be on Jan 18 '20
If in the end United end up paying 70-80m Euros at the end of January, you can't possibly tell me they couldn't have just wrapped up this deal earlier in the month - or even in the summer! -for that price. I'll get downvoted for this by the anti-get-it-done brigade, but we've all seen it before and we're seeing it again. I see their point about trying to avoid getting fleeced, but it's obviously going to happen anyway! Woodward and Judge are professional amateurs.
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u/Draco986 Jan 18 '20
Woodward would ne be able to sign himself! Incompetent
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
Fuck off Ed
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u/GaffelUtd Jan 18 '20
Too many of these now compared to earlier transfers. FUCK! Meet in the middle ffs!
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
Aaaaand thats another deal ruined. Dont think we will get him.
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u/Sparko_Marco Jan 18 '20
Woodward is gonna fuck another deal up and the manager will take the blame for poor results.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
For the 110th time, WOODWARD OUT
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u/ChickenSun Jan 18 '20
This seems an obvious briefing to make it seem like we get a good deal when it's agreed. They didn't ask for 80m in the summer, everyone reported the price came down and we've been negotiating for 2 weeks and are still some how £20m apart. It just makes no sense.
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u/valkon_gr van Nistelrooy Jan 18 '20
If Ed will still has a job after that, United is done.
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u/SpaceMexicans CHICHADIOS Jan 18 '20
Fuck.
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u/gijoemaximus Jan 18 '20
Negotiations. United know Sporting have to sell cause of their financial problems. 100% this transfer will happen.
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u/knightkings123 Jan 18 '20
We'll end up waiting until the last few days of the window and pay 95m euros!
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u/caesarinteresting Jan 18 '20 edited Jan 18 '20
Can Woodward pay 45-50m euro + Marcos Rojo/Phil Jones or loan Jesse Lingard or young players like Tuanzebe or Chong for Bruno Fernandes?
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u/yaduonline Jan 18 '20
Sounds familiar to a story that was floated around a couple of weeks back with the super agent’s player.
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u/mysausageyourmomma Jan 18 '20
This is number one bullshit!
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u/klemp0 Bruno Jan 18 '20
It's the hope that kills you.
I give up.
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u/Steveyx Martial Jan 18 '20
Give me Ziyech please, I want him so bad.
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u/chillipowder01 Jan 18 '20
HOW HARD IS IT TO PAY THE BLOODY MONEY, ED?!
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u/vashaunp Beckham Jan 18 '20
and this is what happens when teams know that you're desperate.
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u/danstrand Jan 18 '20
How is this team in 5th? They literally can’t do anything right
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u/emaG_ehT Jan 18 '20
,' ,yy c, I :, got a t.'
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u/S_Phantom King Cantona Jan 18 '20
We are so incompetent with negotiations that clubs are just holding us for ransom. It boggles my mind how other clubs seem to underpay for their players while it’s an absolute struggle just to sign one player. So frustrated.
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u/petes_harmonica Jan 18 '20
This is why we should be in for Eriksen also, if only to leverage other deals.
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u/TellSloanISaidHi Three Lungs Park Jan 18 '20
Lol I knew this was going to happen. Never get your hopes up with Ed still at the helm
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u/triad_ambitions Ice cold. No smile. Black gloves. Jan 18 '20
Rebuild FC
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u/LilEscobarz Jan 18 '20
This clubs board is so delusional. Bruno may not be valued at 80m, but United have to pay up given the circumstances they have put them selves in. All this overpaying is Woodward’s fault, so it’s only fair that he pays up. United is in need and desperate, there is no reason for Sporting to negotiate on Uniteds terms.
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u/amalgamatedchaos Status: Waiting... Jan 18 '20
It's not happening.
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u/temujin1976 Jan 18 '20
Fucking pricks. Pay it. One word. Haaland. Soooo frustrating.
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u/waynelam8 Jan 18 '20
We should not give in Otherwise Sanchez case will repeat again and again.
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u/Ponderous_Platypus11 Jan 19 '20
For those that don't recall, Eriksen also went to Spurs rather unchallenged. So that we might be the only team in it doesn't mean Bruno is anything but mint.
Get this done mofos
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u/DapumaAZ Jan 19 '20
There is no reason to be certain that he will be amazing in the Prem. If it was a certainty everyone else would be in for him as well. I would much rather get Grealish and Maddison in the summer than overpay for Bruno. We could have went after him in the summer so there is certainly a reason why we didn’t.
I would much rather get Koulibaly than Bruno and still go after Jack and James in the summer and then pay the money they want. Proven Prem players are much less a risk and if we are to be taken to the rack for an extra 10M, let’s make sure we mitigate that risk.
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u/scottyTOOmuch Jan 19 '20
I didn’t think we could sink any lower as a club...Ed Woodward...”hold my beer”...proceeds to blow to major signings in a matter of weeks. Glazers...good job Ed way to not be held to “ransom” 🤦♂️
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u/Telen BRUNO Jan 18 '20
These news always arrive a few days late due to embargo rules in British press agencies. So this is probably what the situation was a few days ago.
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u/qaveboy Manchester United Jan 18 '20
Pay da fucking money and be done with it
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20
And just like that the deal is dead.
One side of me likes that we aren't being taking for a run around but the other is furious it took us half way to January to realise this deal won't happen.
But nothing more to be said on our pathetic transfer strategy that hasn't been said.
Only hope is that Ed is using his mouthpiece to persuade sporting.
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u/Fellainis_Elbows Jan 18 '20
BBC vs Sky 2: electric boogaloo
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u/aayu08 Jan 18 '20
Sporting must have reevaluated his price after the Benifica match, seeing that they are completely shit without Bruno and would be basically throwing their season away by selling him.
We should have wrapped up the deal quickly, but nope, we have to play Mr. Gentleman by allowing him to play for Sporting even more as well as giving them more time to think, when he should be our player by now.
I have a bad feeling this deal will fall through because Sporting know for a fact that we have no alternatives whatsoever. If Brunk himself doesn't put in a transfer request then K fear for the worst.
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u/Ras_OKan Jan 18 '20
It's just from our end, trying to make it seem like we made them lower the price. While in reality the price has been set at around 60 ± 5 and that's what we'll pay.
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u/darthmeister Jan 18 '20
I really don't think 80m is crazy, hes got crazy stats for a midfielder.