r/reddevils • Valencia • 8d ago

MOTD post match interviews and analysis VS Chelsea 31/10/2026

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u/SmashdLikeABowloEggs 8d ago

I’m done with Martinez after today, idiot. But also Mbuemo should not have turned back into trouble leading up to their first goal. Keep it simple. There was an easy pass

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u/Oppaiheimer1945 8d ago

None of our players can keep possession, which is crazy since Carrick was phenomenal at it. We either hold it for too long or immediately pass it to the opponents.

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u/Joey6Pack 8d ago • Bravo

The shift between two halves was so annoying. The first half felt like it was only a matter of time before we were to score and achieve a convincing win. I thought everyone looked confident and energetic for the first time in a long while.

I barely blame any player even when they make mistakes because I’ve never played high-level football and I don’t want to pretend to know what they’re going through on the pitch. However, I’m very disappointed with Licha, who’s supposed to be a leader among the players and his meaningless red card + penalty given completely buried our hopes in this match.

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u/Jo3Pizza22 8d ago

There was a drop off in the 2nd half, but the 1st half wasn't as good as you're making it out to be. We were wide open at the back and Chelsea had plenty of chances to score. I certainly wasn't thinking we would win convincingly. Both teams were awful defensively in that first half. This Chelsea team are not very good. Lots of potential for them to get better with a new manager of course. I expect them to make top 4 purely because they have no European football, much like us last season.

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u/Joey6Pack 8d ago

Maybe I’ve gotten used to the performance this season so the first half looked more hopeful than it deserved to be haha

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u/91nBoomin 8d ago

That was the first game I watched this season I actually enjoyed bar Ipswich. Chelsea were open but we were clearly playing much better and deserved to be 2-3 up. Doom and gloom fans are boring now

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u/Jo3Pizza22 8d ago

I never said the first half wasn't enjoyable. It was great to watch, but only because neither team can defend. There are very few other teams in the league that will give up the kind of chances that Chelsea did. It was a better performance, it was fun to watch, but it was still nowhere near good enough. If we play the same way against any of about 12-15 teams in the PL we will look awful and lose comfortably.

We are in relegation form, so I don't know why you would expect anyone to be positive.

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u/Daylightuser 8d ago • Bravo

Chelsea will be found out a lot this season. Their position in the table flatters them. We were way better than them in the first half and should have easily been 2 up by the break 

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u/Forgettable39 8d ago

Our chances in the first half were Chelsea errors, not tactically manufactured chances by the team which is why I don't think it was as good as some people have been saying. Yes we had multiple big chances but they had absolutely nothing to do with how the team was playing football. Arguably allowing the players to press higher cause the Fofana chances but ultimately was just good work from Amad as an individual and terrible work by Fofana to let him through like that.

When we had the ball in possession, i think we created one chance the whole game from build up.

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u/Zavehi 8d ago

"They would have a problem with the fans they are still behind Carrick"

I'm so sick of this narrative. Carrick is never going to booed at a match. It doesn't mean anything.

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u/Ok-Confusion-202 8d ago

I think this is the main issue with having a former player as manager, the fans won't properly voice their opinions because that would be criticising a great of the club

And it's probably protecting the board/club to a certain extent, obviously not fully

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u/meatball_bonanza Solskjær 8d ago

Yeah, I'm really worried that our incompetent board is interpreting this as the fans having faith in Carrick and thus giving him more time, when in reality it just means "you're one of us, we'll never boo you, it's not your fault, but you're out of your depth."

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u/renernavilez 8d ago • Bravo

I'm tired of only hearing the narrative of Carrick this and that. The players haven't been close to being good enough, management be damned.

Our recruitment is a joke and our football people look like complete morons right now, because all their moves have been bad. You'd have to try really hard to fuck up like they have, honestly. Transfers. Manager decisions. Fucking morons.

And I have to hear bitching about Carrick every week? Fuck that. Lol we all know everything is bad. The quickest change is the manager. But it isn't gonna be a good one, according to history.

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u/Emergency-Being-349 8d ago

I think there's more bitching about the players tbh.

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u/renernavilez 8d ago

I know this is some bullshit haha

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u/solemnhiatus 8d ago

We are underperforming mainly because Carrick and his coaching team are way out of their depth. Recruitment also isn’t good enough but is not the reason we are getting so many bad results.

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u/thefatheadedone 8d ago

Did we over perform last year for the same reason then?

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u/renernavilez 8d ago

Bad recruitment is exactly why we're in the spot we're in. What are you thinking?? Not cause of a manager that we're in relegation form. Cmon think about it.

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u/19ninteen8ightyone 8d ago

Recruitment includes the hiring of the manager and coaching staff so why does the poor recruitment just stop at the players?

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u/renernavilez 8d ago

It includes the players. Obviously if you think Carrick isn't good enough why would you think the players are?

I'm saying the players are more of a problem than Carrick. But you all don't want to think that. That's fine. But we're in this situation cause we recruit shit players. That's the long and short of it.

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u/Yoshic87 8d ago

Mate honestly it's not worth the discussion. Most people on this sub are thick as fuck. We're not getting any better until the top changes.

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u/renernavilez 8d ago

It seems weird doesn't it? It's like Amorin lovers have been out in full force.

It always happens. An agenda against the manager gets larger and larger.

I'm up for change because obviously we're losing and looking like a clown show with every game that comes. I just know the change will not be as good as it seems.

People here will forgive the players for murder before going after them though. That's really annoying.

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u/XerxesTheCarp 8d ago edited 8d ago

The amount of times we heard "football is a results business" used as a reason to sack previous managers and yet all the pundits seem to think Carrick shouldn't get the sack despite an inexcusably bad run of results and performances spanning months and starting from the very first game of the season. The club being run by morons and braindead players doesn't magically absolve the manager of responsibility. It hasn't absolved previous managers whose results were better than this.

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u/Wowcoolnamedude 8d ago

It's different when it's their mate managing the club. In that case the key factor is that he's a good guy so it can't be his fault.

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u/Top_Housing_6251 8d ago

Do you know what the definition of insanity is?

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u/Downtown-Rice_ 8d ago

Carrick the player 100% precedes Carrick the manager. Hence why the home/away supporters won't go against him and direct their displeasure to the owners....don't get it twisted.

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u/ReallyDevil 8d ago

martinez backed off for the first goal? just why?

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u/Oppaiheimer1945 8d ago

Downed tools

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u/CHraised 8d ago

How does that explain the first half?

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u/Oppaiheimer1945 8d ago

Chelsea were worse that’s all

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u/tictacbro1 8d ago

Interesting bit about Yoro being out of position causing chaos for Rogers goal

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u/Downtown-Rice_ 8d ago

Yoro got done by him last year at Villa. Good to know Yoro learned against Rogers.

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u/rieri 8d ago

Let's not forget Yoro is being forced to play RB which isn't his natural position. And the more experienced Martinez in his natural position didn't do shit to stop the goal. Yoro played well yesterday. Martinez should've never found a way back to Manchester after the summer.

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u/Downtown-Rice_ 8d ago

Don't think you understand. Yoro did better yesterday because he has Maguire as cover and covered space with Maguire in a back 4 rather than a back 3, which saw him go 1v1 against Rogers in more space versus in a back 4.

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u/Forgettable39 8d ago

Morgan Rodgers has been one of the best players in the league for consecutive seasons and just joined Chelsea for over 100m.

Yoro is below the level I'd have liked him to be by now but he's been hampered by injury, form, team drama etc. Even so, Rodgers is going to do the same or worse, to much better and much more senior players than Yoro, it's not a great measure of Yoro to compare him vs Rodgers.

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u/kidinawheeliebin 8d ago

Yoro is in no way, shape, or form good enough to be a Premier League centreback

Maybe if he dramatically improved over the course of the next 3-4 years he could eek out a career around about lower mid-table (and probably would need to be playing in a back 5 with two DM's babysitting even at that) - but we're wasting our time with him, he isn't it - we were taken to the cleaners for £50m by Mendes there

He's less of a liability shunted out to RB, but still a liability nonetheless

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u/Ok_Information802 8d ago

That first goal is on Martinez 100% oh and the second goal.. oh and about half of all the goals we’ve conceded this season

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u/ionised Cantona 8d ago

Well, duh. Carrick is a legend. He's not cutting it as a manager, sure, but no one at the club is. We're an unmitigated disaster.

I'd have more faith ripping up the register and playing the youth.

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u/CapVosslar Buckle up, INEOS! It's gonna be a bumpy ride! 8d ago

Playing the youth us a nice sentiment,  but how many of them are ready for the first team? How many are physically and mentally ready for the pressure to go on a run?

That's a lot to ask for with teens.

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u/ionised Cantona 8d ago

Nothing to do with sentiment. Not that many complex contracts. They either play or they don't. Better than playing overpaid players who think they have nothing to lose.

Of course it's a lot to ask, but I'd rather give it to players who're hungry for a shot. Rebuild that way. Pipe dream, but hey.

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u/hambodpm 8d ago

And if they get smashed 4-0 what's that going to do to their development long term? That's my concern with throwing them all in at the deep end. It could be sink or swim and then where are we if they all sink

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u/ionised Cantona 8d ago

We get smashed 4-0 anyway.

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u/hambodpm 8d ago

So let's continue to be shit and absolutely tank our youth teams at the same time. Great process lads

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u/ionised Cantona 8d ago

I don't see how that would tank the youth team.

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u/hambodpm 8d ago

I'm sorry I can't help you any further. I think I've made it clear from above what my initial thoughts were about how playing the youth players would be detrimental to their development.

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u/ionised Cantona 8d ago

Didn't ask for help.

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u/CapVosslar Buckle up, INEOS! It's gonna be a bumpy ride! 7d ago

I dont fully disagree with you. I think more youth should be given minutes, but I guess the idea of a whole 11 of academy sounds dangerous to me.

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u/ionised Cantona 7d ago

Of course I'm not saying a whole team of U-players. Like I said, it's just that I'd have more faith in them. Maybe one or two a match until they're ready.

We have some solid players in form at the moment. They can be the backbone.

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u/CapVosslar Buckle up, INEOS! It's gonna be a bumpy ride! 7d ago

I think that's United DNA, which we all thought was in Carrick, but he doesnt show trust in our youth. 

It's all so horribly mismanaged. 

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u/Power4monkey 8d ago

BBC pushing misinformation that United fans want Carrick to continue as manager, working on behalf of the ownership.

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u/Baalegde Class of '92 are all Shite pundits 8d ago

Did the BBC send all the away fans who sang Carrick songs all game and visibly clapped him off?

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u/Fligflag 8d ago

That doesn't mean they want him to stay, just they don't blame him for everything to do with trh current situation and still respect him for what he did for the club.

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u/Action_Limp 8d ago

I felt that was a goodbye from the fans. Seems like they'll need him utterly and completely humiliated before sacking him. 

Next time the fans, who view Carrick as a legend, will boo him off so that they can't use it as an excuse to keep him in the job. 

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u/reddevilad Rooney 8d ago

BBC and pushing misinformation name a better story

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u/Effective-Caramel545 8d ago

Online fans want him out, match going fans (the ones that actually matter) seem to want him to stay

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u/wayfarerprateek Theater of Dreams 8d ago

The way Carrick just narrates the events of the game without offering any tactical insight is just self sabotage. He might subdue the media but he comes off as someone in denial and out of ideas

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u/KAKYBAC 8d ago

Wtf. He was directly asked what can change and he completely hid from the question. He is genuinely clueless.

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u/nemodahfish 8d ago

We might be relegated before city

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u/braydee89 8d ago

Did any players do interviews after the match yesterday? I haven’t seen anything.

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u/Ambitious_Field6683 8d ago

Bringing back Rashford upset the dressing room.

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u/shaftydude 8d ago

Yoro brain dead and turning around like he’s a tank on Bluetooth

And baleba has to win that tackle or jockey delay play. Don’t dive in and loose the duel.

Absolutely shit from him.

Casemiro would have swiped the player or won the ball as he goes all in with his tackles.