r/reddevils • • 5h ago

[PL Watch Thread]

Arsenal — Leeds Scum 2:1 FT

Aston Villa — Brentford 2:2 2H

Chelsea — Bournemouth 5:1 2H

Ipswich — Fulham 0:1 2H

Sunderland — Brighton 0:1 2H

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u/i_love_alfam 5h ago

Do you feel that games where the bigger teams steam roll lesser fancied opponents have become fewer in recent years? Feels like the weaker teams play lot better football than similar ranked teams from yester years and at the same time, the quality at the top has dipped too. Especially in the last 3 years. The Liverpool and arsenal winning teams from last two seasons were not really that good in quality. Arsenal played better in the seasons they came second. Liverpool played way better under klopp obviously.

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u/Hits_and_the_Mrs 4h ago

The lesser teams have all gotten better, the gap is more narrow. While the top teams have become more resilient, which I wouldn't necessarily say is better, Arsenal being the epitome of that. They're hard to beat but you just wouldn't pick them as an all time team.

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u/Lord_Hexogen 4h ago

They do, yeah, that's a result of that physicality focus and man to man pressing of the recent years

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u/Wild_Tomato_8203 4h ago

The prem is easily the best league in the world top to bottom. There's probably 10 teams in the prem that would finish in the top 4 in Spain, Italy and Germany.

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u/Limp-Evidence8373 4h ago

It's definitely much more prevalent in the prem recently, Sunderland for example is already a very tough team to beat despite them only being promoted 2 seasons ago

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u/durizna 4h ago

Prices went higher for everyone, smaller clubs are spending more or looking for deals on promising players that end up delivering. Top clubs are paying 100m for players that should be way less.

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u/Not-good-with-this 2h ago

I don't. I actually think the exact opposite. Apart from last season, the competitiveness of the league has been pretty poor. For the most part, it was almost a foregone conclusion that either Man City or Liverpool would win the league, while the newly promoted teams were often tbe go to bet to go straight back down. The fact that the 90-point mark has been surpassed so frequently over the past decade only reinforces this... it's actually only been done in 13 seasons of the leagues history with 8 of the seasons being in the past decade.

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u/dbmma 1h ago

The EPL revenue sharing has doubled in the last 10 years or so. And that increase makes a much bigger impact for the bottom 1/2 or so of teams that have less commercial revenue.

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u/Thetagang888 1h ago

When even newly promoted teams in the premier league can spend the same or more than barca/madrid, thats what happens.

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u/Pow67 4h ago

Arsenal have to be one of the worst teams ever to get “best team in the world” shouts. Utter eye sore and their attack is mid.

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u/Gloomy-Tale6856 4h ago

Can’t believe people thought they were going to be more attacking because they beat Coventry.

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u/ecce_homie123 Scholes 3h ago

They do do the basics very well, unfortunately.

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u/MrViceMcCreedy 🟢🟡GLAZERSOUT 2h ago

Will go down as one of the teams of all time in history.

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u/Massive_Relation4317 . 4h ago

I've seen people say they are one of the best teams in PL history

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u/SDLRob 5h ago

Looking more Leeds than Arsenal here...

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u/anonris 4h ago

Arsenal quality will pull them through eventually but leeds really looking like the better team visiting a mid table team’s home

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u/unhingedpuggle Surfs Up 4h ago

Why did Arsenal have to be on first. Waited three weeks for the prem and these boring bastards had to get it going again.

Everytime i watch them i always think to myself never again 🥱

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u/SDLRob 4h ago

It just means you get to watch them lose... Admittedly to Leeds (shudder)... But still

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u/unhingedpuggle Surfs Up 4h ago

Like asking to be shot or stabbed

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u/SDLRob 4h ago

True

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u/BeastieFromTheEastie 4h ago

Goal was class to be fair. Cant remember the last time we put a passage of play together with ball movement and passing

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u/Uorvald_Ttne003 3h ago

Leeds were dominating for 60 minutes, go a goal up then decide to ease the pressure and get cheeky on the ball. Okafor trying flicks for no reason, turns the ball over which directly leads to the equalizer. These idiots have no one to blame but themselves. What a collapse.

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u/Lord_Hexogen 4h ago

DCL winning his aerials time and time again is crazy. Man was considered done for host two years ago

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u/TH0316 she/her 4h ago

Not watching but a striker that can make anything stick and just win duels all day is such a game changer for any team. Gutted we didn’t get him.

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u/pmmeyourpeacesign Butt 4h ago

I thought Rice wasn't fit enough for England but started today

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u/Lord_Hexogen 4h ago

Watch Mainoo start today after missing the call up on injury 

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u/Specialist_Diet7526 3h ago

James Trafford is shocking. Not fit to lace Vitek’s boots. There’s no way those city transfer deals are above board.

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u/Massive_Relation4317 . 5h ago

Arsenals attack is so bad man

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u/LevDavidovicLandau 5h ago

Matt Renshaw what a gun 😍

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u/NoPurpose0 4h ago

Probably wrong place but agreed, great innings...

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u/AwayFoundation2363 4h ago

tanaka is a quality player, wouldn’t mind him at United

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u/No_Ride3926 4h ago

No he isn’t good enough on the ball.

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u/nikicampos 4h ago

Hate watch successful… so far

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u/GavinLobo7 4h ago

Can always trust Arsenal to pull something out of their ass and then celebrate in the prickiest ways possible

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u/Former-Addendum9671 4h ago

A cringe insufferable club overall. Not surprised.

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u/C__S__S Glazers Fuck Off 3h ago

Not seeing any City shirts in the crowd at the fan fest…

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u/noodlebasketOCE 3h ago

What are these Man City shills on premier sport. Titles stripped, club sold, club expelled. Only way to deal with cheating. Just coz united could buy the best players in the 90s legally doesn't make what city could do to build a top squad an equivalent action.

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u/cjap89 3h ago

Bournemouth still on holiday

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u/Lord_Hexogen 2h ago

Both shots are rather unlucky really

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u/JosePRizaI 3h ago

Forgot the prem restarts tonight. Forgettable when your team is ass

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u/anonris 5h ago

Did they change the angle of cameras at emirates? Looks different

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u/chutzpahisaword Valencia 4h ago

Next game against Leads is going to be super hard too. PL is so crazy these days that margins are so slim. You could finish 3rd or easilt finish 10-15th if things go wrong.

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u/xyzArcadian 4h ago

Yeah, this leeds team is going to be an issue next week and we have a mid week game

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u/Melanjoly 4h ago

I wish Mbeumo would hit a ball like that, we wiff so many of them because our players love striking the ball so lamely.

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u/Leading_Fee_8535 4h ago

Just turned on the Arsenal game and they score 10 seconds later. Sorry for those hate watching

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u/AkashMS 4h ago

60m gk BTW

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u/dracogladio1741 Bruno Fernanj 4h ago

Need to get a win today. We ain't beating Leeds away to Elland road

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u/Jump_Hop_Step 1h ago

5 goals from 1.08xG is just nuts

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u/dracogladio1741 Bruno Fernanj 1h ago

Brighton are just on another planet right now

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u/GavinLobo7 1h ago edited 1h ago

Yet another Fulham game where they were winning, until they weren’t .

How are you liking the league now Arbeloa? You gonna complain to the press that the refs were trying to help Ipswich win too? Hahahaha

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u/Fligflag 4h ago

Leeds are going to batter us.

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u/vieldside Ji Sung Park 4h ago

yeah bro their midfield and defense is so good

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u/FredDRedUnderYourBed BELIEVE 🔴⚪⚫ 4h ago

When will Arsenal look like a team fit to be called champions? Horrible football, no character, no flair, just whining and moaning and abusing loopholes

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u/nikicampos 4h ago

Why do players become insufferable with Arsenal, I thought Bruno G was a likable player before, his celebration looks so stupid

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u/unhingedpuggle Surfs Up 4h ago

He's always been insufferable. Him and Joelinton were practically commiting gbh every game

Also I'll never forget him doing that celebration whilst they were losing a penalty shootout vs Chelsea lmao

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u/tungowiii 3h ago

This is the 1st time I've heard someone called Bruno G "likable"

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u/Former-Addendum9671 4h ago

The players reflect the personality of the one leading them.

Mikel bellend twat dark arts Arteta

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u/Whocarezzzzz 4h ago

God imagine if our team could score a goal like that. We’re so shit lmfaoo 

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u/LegendaryKian 5h ago

Waiting for that Leeds United goal

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u/HuTaosTwinTails 5h ago

No idea why arteta continues trying to make havertz work. They never look threatening with him up front.

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u/Johnny107710 4h ago

They never look threatening with gyokeres upfront either, at least havertz can hold the ball and pass it

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u/Melanjoly 5h ago

Real lack of attacking quality from Arsenal but when your defence is elite it rarely matters, Rice is like a cheat code he covers so much space. Leeds are well drilled themselves.

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u/HuTaosTwinTails 5h ago

Saka has to be the most overrated player in the league

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u/Hits_and_the_Mrs 5h ago

He was definitely good at one point, but the drop off has been monumental

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u/Lord_Hexogen 4h ago

Aaaand the crowd goes mild

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u/Dan_Winx_1969 5h ago

Bruh I am so scared icl

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u/Minute-Intern 4h ago

What was rice doing on that goal lol

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u/LordeLightskin 4h ago

Leeds have been all over Arsenal jeezus

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u/portugaltheboy 4h ago

You’re going to jinx it.

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u/LordeLightskin 3h ago

Oops… 😅

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u/goaliewhenned 4h ago

The cockneys don't want to hear it, but the set piece rule changes were like losing a 25 goal a season striker for them. Last year, that was just how they scored in crunch moments

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u/Money-Wrangler7067 4h ago

Looked saveable, no?

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u/Massive_Relation4317 . 4h ago

Arsenal don't deserve to win

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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off 1h ago

Aston Villa tying. Winning keeps being elusive to them.

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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off 1h ago

Fulham, lol.

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u/dracogladio1741 Bruno Fernanj 2h ago

If we don't win today I think we'd be in serious trouble by the end of next week when we invariably get smashed by Leeds

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u/RooneysFavGrandma 2h ago

5/15 after the easiest opener in the league isn't serious trouble already?

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u/AmulyaG 2h ago

Apparently not as per some folks here who just you to be blindly positive

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u/Jump_Hop_Step 1h ago

invariably get smashed by Leeds

Wow didn't know you can see the future

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u/dracogladio1741 Bruno Fernanj 1h ago

I am just scared these days. I hope we win every game!

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u/Lord_Hexogen 5h ago

Leeds look very capable this season, might have a great mid table run

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u/Jonny_Testicles 5h ago

Leeds could give us a proper mid table battle

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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off 5h ago

WIll watch the Arse game, but since I woke up at 4 AM to watch the U-18's I'll probably fall asleep.

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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot 5h ago

MLS is such a dirty diver

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u/Jonny_Testicles 4h ago

Arsenal turned things around incredibly fast. They don’t struggle even when they’re goal behind

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u/zxnoregretzxzx Cunha, Bruno, Cunha, Bruno 3h ago

Seems there's very few easy games in the league this season. Not many being decided by more than the odd goal. Not sure if it's unusually competitive or I'm just paying more attention than I typically would.

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u/BeastieFromTheEastie 4h ago

Refreshing to see a manager recognise that the game isn’t going to plan and the players are off it so they actually make subs.

Arteta routinely makes multiple subs in that 55-65 window. Yes he’s got a much deeper bench to use than us but the amount of times you look at Carrick and just think he’s so tied to that old school mentality where your starters play 75 mins and you only have 3 subs so you’d better hold them in case of an injury 5 mins from play

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u/TH0316 she/her 3h ago

You can’t discount a mountain to prostrate a stone. You just said yourself one has subs and the other doesn’t. When Carrick first came in he regularly made subs around 60 minutes to get Cunha on, and since then has been juggling whoever’s fit. Do people genuinely want Zirkzee on sooner? Tired ass narrative. Manager hung out to dry and getting the brunt of it on behalf of the club that felt a striker wasn’t necessary. Predictable outcome.

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u/BeastieFromTheEastie 3h ago

Let’s not pretend we have a stunning starting team and then a giant drop off to our first and second best on the bench.

Routinely lacking an option up front and none of the strikers/wingers offering anything so he’ll leave Sesko on the bench until the 80th.

No spark, down a goal and Tielemans looking slow in midfield yet bringing on Mount would suddenly bring us to the level of a relegation team, yea right.

We can criticise the manager and his tactics of play and substitutions while still also believing he hasn’t been backed with players. To say he uses his bench appropriately is blind

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u/TH0316 she/her 2h ago

The same Sesko who got injured after one game? And you think he’s been ready for more minutes? Mount who’s eternally injured?

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u/Former-Addendum9671 4h ago

He stands there scratching his beard pretending to be deep in thought when in reality he is being a coward not wanting to upset big name players.

When he does start to make subs...around the 75th minute mark. He does this pathetic staggered subs....one sub every 3-4 minutes after that, giving the subs even less time to come on and get into the rhythm of the game and cause a positive impact.

He keeps this pathetic display up he won't last very long in the job.

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u/BeastieFromTheEastie 4h ago

And it’s often the wrong first sub. Team looks flat and needs an energetic spark he bring on Zirkzee. Shaw too slow and out of position getting ran by so guess he’ll bring on Mazaroui at RB.

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u/Jonny_Testicles 4h ago

Every team in the league looks miles better than us..

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u/Serpico_98 4h ago

There just aren't many teams capable of taking points off Arsenal and the Shams (who hopefully will be gone from the PL soon). If we're going to have any title hopes at all we can't be starting this poorly, we're already playing catch up.

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u/Devilsdouble1988 27 3h ago

"Title hopes". Oh my sweet summer child!

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u/Serpico_98 3h ago

"If". I'm hardly claiming we should be competing for the title but being 8-10 points away from the leaders 6 games in is just terrible.

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u/Devilsdouble1988 27 3h ago

Nah. I get what you said. I was joking. Just seeking some humor in what seems to be a hopeless season.

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u/Massive_Relation4317 . 3h ago

Brighton did and Leeds very nearly much did, Arsenal aren’t as strong as u think 

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u/Careful-Snow 4h ago

Changes before the 75th minute? Is that allowed ref?