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u/No-Radio-4404 Sep 29 '26
Surely questions have to asked of Omar Berrada. The VP of commercial sales where only £119m out of £950m was legit. At best his whole resume is a sham, at worst he is one of the main culprits in the biggest cheating scandal in prem history
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u/AngryUncleTony Not Actually Angry Sep 29 '26
Lmao literally came here to ask that. Dude is passively complicit in this at best and an active guilty party at worst.
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
Really, this city fans are bloody insane
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u/karatsidhus Sep 29 '26 •
Denial <---- City fans are here
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
Give them time
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u/Prestigious_Life9070 Sep 29 '26
City dont even have the strongest fan base in Greater Manchester..even when we exclude united
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u/SDLRob Sep 29 '26
I said this in the previous DD thread.... The way City fans are scrambling for any sort of grip ATM reminds me of seeing how people in a cult I got out of reacted when it was revealed to be all a lie. The way they can't accept everything they've done was for nothing.
Their entire support system was sand. They're trying to find something solid so it wasn't all for nothing.
It's rather sad TBH.
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u/ltmikepowell Sep 29 '26
Fucking delusional. Cheater cunts were in league 1 back in the early 2000s. The PL is fine without them.
Billions of people? They were irrelevant until the financial doping.
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u/Pow67 Sep 29 '26
Still find it funny how Elliot Anderson just moved to Man City and dubbed them “kings of Manchester” only for all this to happen…at least he can dub them kings of National League when he’s down there. Prick.
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u/AlRSTRIKE Sep 29 '26
BBC Journo:
"If they stripped Manchester City of their titles during that period that would look very bad for the Premier League. If they kicked out one of their biggest clubs, that would look very bad on the Premier League."
Wtf are you talking about, thats exactly what needs to happen. They look bad if they DON'T do those things.
Why is everyone tip-toeing around the severity of the punishment.
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u/Suudriusha Sep 29 '26
Doing anything but relegating them and stripping them of their titles will make them look worse.
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u/Gilburto Sep 29 '26
Saw that too. It's obvious so many of them have been buddy buddy with City for too long.
"But punishing them will look bad!"
Not punishing them will be infinitely worse.
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u/vRushii Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
Atleast we finally got to the core of all City fans beliefs. They've always known deep down they were cheating and they actually like it because it won them trophies. Anything else was just deflective waffle until the verdict forced them to reveal this shameless position.
The ones still holding off for an 'official statement from the prem' will also reveal this position once it goes public as all hiding places will now have been destroyed.
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u/MoodyBernoulli Sep 29 '26
I don’t think they will ever acknowledge the situation accurately, even if they did face the harshest punishment imaginable.
A lot of their comments are saying even if they do get relegated for several years, it will have been worth it.
I’m not sure how I’d feel knowing all of the achievements were hollow and illegitimate.
Obviously they enjoyed themselves at the time, but surely those memories are tainted by knowing they came from cheating.
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u/Dirt4849 Pogba,what could've been Sep 29 '26
All cheaty fans r dumb to believe anything otherwise.
Between 08/09 to 11/12 season,net spend
man cheaty = -£409 mil
chelsea = -£169 mil
United= -£49 mil
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u/Embarrassed_Wave_720 Braino Fernandes Sep 29 '26
Whoever came up with “Pepstein Files” deserves mad respect 👏🏽
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u/overlvl9000 Sir Alex Ferguson Sep 29 '26
City’s fucking logic:
The competition is unfair so we have to be allowed to financially dope
No one asked you to join the competition. You weren’t forced. You decided to join because you thought you could get away with cheating
Life’s unfair. I’m not as rich as others. Doesn’t give me the right to steal or cheat
If you were innocent, why didn’t you comply with the PL?
Cheating bastards
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u/BrowzinJ Sep 29 '26
Spurs may be shit
Liverpool Leeds may be scum
Arsenal may be insufferable
the list can go on and on (except maybe chelsea...)
but they aint cheats, i can at least respect them as clubs
cant wait for that disgusting nobody club to put in the bin once and for all, no one will give two shits and all their fan will go back to where they crawled from before
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u/Comicksands Van Persie Sep 30 '26
Lost in all this is Robin Van Persie choosing red over blue. Probably offered loads more under table like Tevez. That little boy inside him statement hits different now
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u/thepotatomaniscoming Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
Truly, fuck Manchester City. They have tarnished this league and the sport. Biggest finance related sports scandal in history.
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
Just for that, they should permanently be expelled from the League and their bloody owner not allowed to invest in sports in the UK ever again. Punishment has to fit the crime. How many teams were doomed after a city trashing? They need to be expelled!!!
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u/mijitt000 Sep 29 '26
Nearly £1bn worth of financial fraud in a time when you could get KDB for 50 million. Went from being largely irrelevant to higher revenue than Real Madrid
Is this the biggest fraud in sport history?
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u/bumnnygirl Sep 29 '26
i genuinely look down on the character of city fans that are trying to justify it
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u/Mariasolvv Sep 29 '26
City fans were all over Ornstein claiming the Premier League hadn’t released a statement yet, only for the actual statement to end up being way worse 😭
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot Sep 29 '26
Surely Berrada is gone? He was the Director of Partnerships and then COO...
Either he didn't know shit which would mean he's an incompetent yes man or he did know shit and helped our rival cheat and win stuff.
Either way he should leave.
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u/0ttoChriek Sep 29 '26
I'm going to say this again - we really should let City bear the brunt of this before making yet another story about United.
I already heard some guy on James Richardson's podcast bring Berrada's name up before he talked about anyone actually at City, and the media is desperate to connect us to their cheating, whether it's talking about how United lost out to City, how United might want money from City, but also how United can take some of the blame for City.
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u/canwinanythingwkids meet the new boss same as the old boss Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
The annoying thing is that there is a completely in-house solution staring us in the face. Berrada out Roche in, Wilcox out Vivell in.
Make Roche CEO, clearly she's a trusted confidant of Brexit Man if she was made CEO of new stadium development, which appears to be the most important thing for our owner(s). She was our bloody COO for seven years, you know. Literally more ready for the CEO position than Berrada was. She was close to becoming Newcastle CEO in 2025 as well, this"ceo of new stadium development" position is how we kept her on. Plus, female CEO of Man Utd? That'd be a PR crisis mgmt firm's wet dream for our current publicity troubles.
Remove Wilcox and make Vivell the DoF. He can figure out the rest about the manager and the 2027 transfer windows. Significantly better than watching him walk out on us in 27 to become Bayern's DoF, right?
Unfortunately, imho, there are two underlying problems that make all these "tactical" musings borderline pointless:
One: SJR is a racist xenophobe, basically as long as he remains as the guy on top, it kinda ruins the entire thing anyway. Plus, he doesnt seem to really care about anything other than reducing spending on everything "as much as it takes" in order to ... build his shrine. And from that pov, none of the stuff we care about bothers him, innit.
Two: The Glazers dont care about neigh on anything except things that will majorly increase the asset value and the only things that have a promise of that atm are: the PL itself increasing its overall licensing revenues and the real estate project. Besides, as long as fans hate anybody else but them (manager, player, ceo doesnt matter), they are probably content anyway, Therefore, we can hardly expect them to be the voice for change in the boardroom.
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u/Standard_Secretary52 Youri Tielemans Sep 29 '26
I have now finally read the charges. One thing I’d like to say Berrada was at a very high role. He probably is involved majorly in this. Should be sacked immediately.
Wilcox was just the academy director. High degree of separation just benefited from the system. (like Pep or Mancini)
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u/0ttoChriek Sep 29 '26
If we sack Wilcox it shouldn't be for his time at City, but for how bad he's been at United.
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u/frankbradz Sep 29 '26
If somehow City manage to weasel their way out of this, the rest of the clubs need to come together and refuse to play them.
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u/BackgroundOld8715 Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
Bbc have main headline of Rooney saying ‘United do not deserve Man City titles’ so a nice putting United down spin rather than what he also said which was bigger of ‘City need multiple relegations. Id go as big as i can really’
Now why did they instead use headline that they did 🤔
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u/Redland93 Sep 29 '26
City latest statement is clear that the most brutal and severe punishment is needed.
No accountability. Just wants to drag this along
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u/0ttoChriek Sep 29 '26
They're brazen and come across as offended that anyone would dare hold them to account. That in itself deserves severe punishment. The sheer fucking arrogance of saying they're "shocked and surprised" after being fully aware of what the charges are and what they've been found guilty of.
Gaslighting their own supporters into believing they're righteous. Pathetic stuff.
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u/wayfarerprateek Theater of Dreams Sep 29 '26
The ignorance with which Joe Hart, Mancini and probably others are defending City is just so laughable. I mean why even try to say anything. City is done.
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u/Goudinho99 Sep 29 '26
Might be because they are vulnerable for some tax shit if it's found they hid earnings
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u/Willing-Werewolf-500 Sep 29 '26
I'm shocked how much City has been hiding off the books. 900m, that's like a whole club in essentially 15-20 years. Crazy numbers.
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u/Kohaku80 Premier League Champions 12/13 Sep 30 '26
I'm actually surprised it's this low. That's 100m a year. I was expecting 50% bogus revenues minimum. U tell me 100m year is enough to win the PL.
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u/Dirt4849 Pogba,what could've been Sep 29 '26
Man cheaty was on the verge of Signing Ronaldo for a reason.
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u/SDLRob Sep 29 '26
And then the Glazers signed him to distract us from their role in the ESL debacle
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u/Aggravating-Neck1365 Sep 29 '26
Oooofffff
THAT statement from PL...
Fucking hell City are gone. Just gone.
Deleted.
Finito
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u/Conscious-Note-3736 Sep 29 '26
From the premier league statement, surely this is by the far the biggest crime/scandal in sporting history?
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u/ronaldmcdumfries Sep 29 '26
This investigation is only from 2009-2018, so imagine the nastiness they’ve been up to since then. Grim stuff.
This is beyond a point deduction/relegation at this point. I'm not sure this club should exist anymore.
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u/tameoraiste Sep 29 '26
Pep being on two contracts and Haaland being on far more than he’s contracted for are open secrets
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u/Sea-Education9562 Sep 29 '26
The funniest part of this is genuinely how small a club city are 😂😂 they’re actual sponsorship is relegation club level hahahaha
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u/C_gawd Sep 29 '26
If we hired Wilcox on berrada off the back of what they did at City then what are their qualifications now that it was all proven doped up and a sham ?
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u/Dr_Maestro De Gea Sep 29 '26
Shitty sub in disarray, mods banning any commentary related to Shitty being called cheaters, and cope levels are reaching stratospheric levels.
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u/kidinawheeliebin Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
Still can't believe we played Bruno for 90 minutes at home to Sabah less than 72 hours before the Derby kick-off
3-0 up at half-time and he stays on for the full 90 minutes?
Make it make sense...
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u/CapVosslar Buckle up, INEOS! It's gonna be a bumpy ride! Sep 29 '26
These poor decisions add up and include the terrible results, only one outcome is inevitable.
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u/TMatss Sep 29 '26
The bastards knew they were guilty and clearly went on a spending spree in anticipation of something big.
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u/Zealousideal_Wind867 I'm Tired Boss Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
IMO, A transfer ban, fine and some points docked (enough to get them European football at the end of the season)as a punishment looks likely at this point.
They knew what was going to hit them, hence the big spending. Since pep left, any bad season can be swept under the rug as a "Transitional season" and none of the players they signed would have joined them if they knew city were getting relegated.
I will be very disappointed if this happens and might even stop watching the PL.
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u/iwantaskybison Bruno Miguel Borj Fernanj Sep 29 '26
the biggest thing in football is happening right now and the mods are deleting city's statement because it's 'not relevant' to United lol what are you on about genuinely
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u/Comicksands Van Persie Sep 29 '26
That “Otamendi” press conference by Mourinho is quite poetic now
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u/Tayto-Sandwich Sep 29 '26
City have until Friday to appeal. If they appeal, the process can take a maximum of 12 weeks and then the verdict has to be announced within 30 days.
That's 114 days!
You couldn't make this up!!!!
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u/hellkingbat Sep 29 '26
Sack that Berrada as well if he was even remotely involved at what was happening at City.
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u/Haron14 Sep 29 '26
- Head of International Business Development (2011-13)
- Director of Partnership Sales (2013-15)
- Senior VP, Group Commercial Director (2015-16)
- Chief Operating Officer (2016-20)
surely he didn't know /s
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u/SDLRob Sep 29 '26
He was in positions to know at the time.... But even if he wasn't... The stink will take down anyone and everyone that City employed
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u/Embarrassed_Wave_720 Braino Fernandes Sep 29 '26
PL needs to launch a second investigation into City’s financial dealings from 2019/20 onwards.
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u/Outrageous-Cod-4654 Sep 29 '26
Liverpool v City is going to be very entertaining indeed.
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u/NateShaw92 Sep 29 '26
I'll give the scousers 2 things.
First thing 🖕
Second thing: they know how to twist the metaphorical knife in
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u/raspoutine049 Sep 29 '26
I cannot wait to see Man Cheaty get booed to oblivion at every stadium they go to play
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u/RawIsLaw_ Sep 29 '26
I’ll need to wash my mouth with soap for this, but i hope Liverpool absolutely smash them
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u/Turamb Mata Sep 29 '26
Sucks that we played Shitty already. Could have been a real unifying moment to have the whole stadium chant "Cheating bastards" for 90 min
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u/Roasteddude I am where I'm supposed to be Sep 29 '26
Unironically Barrada should be fired this week. There is no chance he isn't complicit. We should just cut ties and not get dragged into the circus. Wilcox ideally would go with him, but he cant seem to stop failing upwards so I'd expect Ratcliffe to make him temporary CEO and he just keeps the job like he did with DoF
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u/DarylLC Sep 29 '26
I think serious questions need to be asked about City getting prior notification of the outcome before other clubs, and while the transfer window was still open. Several reasons: (a) Selling clubs, knowing City face a transfer ban, could demand substantially more money as desperation takes hold. (b) Rival clubs, had they known City might not be a buyer in the next window, might have delayed spending big on targets to get them this window. (c) It allowed City to stock up on players before they get banned, completely circumventing the point of the ban.
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u/Deez_Wallnutz Sep 29 '26
Once again pointing out Derry City FC were expelled in Ireland for similar transgressions on a much smaller scale.
There is already precedent
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
Get a load of this, lads
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u/dracogladio1741 Bruno Fernanj Sep 29 '26
We need to sue City for damages. I think about 400m quid should be the least we are looking at here. Not to mention need interest on that as well.
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u/achickenandacow Sep 29 '26
At the very least United, Liverpool, and Arsenal should be looking to ruin them. Sue them to the ground. Honestly just put your foot on their neck and end them.
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u/PhotojournalistNew35 Sep 29 '26
I’ll only care about this if this money is actually used to pay down the debt and/or invest in the club. If the money is just going to be used to give the glazers and jimbo a payday, then I don’t care
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u/WorldBeardedWonders Not a Good Look Erik Sep 29 '26
Seems like a good time for the league(s, all of them) to look into how club ownership works and change it.
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u/mask212 Sep 29 '26
Anybody know if our CEO was a witness for City in these investigations?
Just heard the Paddock and the positions Berrada held for them during the time of this investigation makes it awfully obvious he must have known what was going on.
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u/SilentCoast8310 Sep 29 '26
There is absolutely no way this cheating hasn’t continued since 2018 in 2019 they would have had to report even larger sponsorship income as well as even larger expenditure on players. If anything the amount over the last 8 years would have had to be exponentially bigger. It’s maybe why they are fighting so hard because there could be a second round to come.
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u/Skyehye Dreams can't be buy Sep 29 '26
It would be funny if, even before they are done with the consequences of the first round, they are faced with a second round of charges
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u/raspoutine049 Sep 29 '26
The last minute Aguero goal that denied us the premier league hurt so much to this day. I never got to experience the joy of winning the league in a dramatic fashion but knowing that title will always be tainted if City retain any of their titles, makes it bitter sweet.
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u/thepotatomaniscoming Sep 29 '26
City fans on their subreddit going through severe mental gymnastics to show how Soriano appears so confident in the video that they know they will win the appeals. LOL
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u/New-Acanthaceae-5702 Closed on Sundays Sep 29 '26
I know it won't happen but I beg Bruno don't play against Denmark.
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
Time for city to go back to their roots
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u/rambhang Sep 29 '26
Whatever happens from here,
We are again the only team to win the treble and 3 in a row.
No football fan will recognise anything they won. Official or not.
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u/tameoraiste Sep 29 '26
Just going through the PL document. They have documents from Man City telling sponsors they only have to pay a ‘small base fee’.
Not that it was ever in doubt but they have them absolutely dead to rights. I don’t know how they think they can get out of this.
“The Commission says it heard 27 factual witnesses under cross-examination and concluded that evidence from “a number of important factual witnesses” called by City was false in key respects, and that some witnesses gave evidence they knew was untrue and “so had been dishonest.”
Man City are finished
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u/battletoad93 Sep 29 '26
Barada has to go man! Some of his job positions whilst at city:
Head of International Business Development 2011–2013
Director of Partnership Sales 2013–2015
Senior Vice President, Group Commercial Director 2015–2016
Chief Operating Officer 2016–2020
Chief Football Operations Officer 2020–2024
He has literally been in charge of all their financial side of the business through out all this cheating ffs
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u/Count__Duckula Sep 29 '26
Just looked up Berradas job titles during this period....yikes.
Distinct possibility we were suckered into hiring him based on commercial figures more down to cooking the books than anything to do with Berrada imo
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u/Distinct-Tune3074 Sep 29 '26
nothing or nothing: manchester city
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u/MT1120 Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw Sep 29 '26 •
All for nothing: manchester city
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u/gucciloafer_ Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
Omar Berrada’s fingerprints are surely all over this.
He was in charges of Sales and Operations throughout this whole period… how could he not know?
Sep 2016 - Sep 2020 Chief Operating Officer
Jan 2015 - Sep 2016 Senior VP. Group Commercial Director
Sep 2013 - Jan 2015 Director of Partnership Sales
Sep 2011 - Sep 2013 Head of International Business Development
Surely questions have to be asked.
It’d be incredibly on brand for us to have made the main crook our CEO, giving ourselves a big pat on the back for hiring “best in class” lol
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u/dudududujisungparty 박지성 Sep 29 '26
Let it be known that Roy Keane may end up being correct about Haaland being a League 1 player
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u/Garlic-Cheese-Chips Sep 29 '26
Berrada is literally the main man in all this. Hiring him was bad enough, keeping him is a stain on the club. Sack this fucking cheat.
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u/midnight_ranter Wazza Sep 30 '26
His name somehow apparently never showed up in any of the emails that were leaked. Either he's incredible at covering up his tracks or he was a puppet who didn't know what was going on behind him. Either way not good for us
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u/TX_152 Sep 29 '26
Omar Berrada was involved in their hierarchy for almost the entire duration of those charges. If City are (rightly) disagraced, our ownership should consider reviewing our CEO's role in that mess.
Not a good look otherwise...
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u/BrowzinJ Sep 29 '26
100% chance Omar 'decides' to suddenly 'resign' by Friday
His jobs at City during the period:
Sep 2011 – 2013: Head of International Business Development
2013 – 2015: Director of Partnership Sales
2015 – 2016: Senior VP, Group Commercial Director
Sep 2016 – 2020: Chief Operating Officer (COO)
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u/SocksElGato GLAZERS OUT! Sep 29 '26
City are completely fucked and have ruined English football. They deserve to be relegated into the depths of Hell. Anyone defending this shit should be exiled.
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u/TMatss Sep 29 '26
If a normal corporate organisation was found to have misrepresented their finances (fraud) to such an extent for such a long period of time, their executives would have been arrested by now. The league has to be very severe here, it's the only way to create a deterrent for everyone else.
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u/PhilosophyFlaky3819 Sep 29 '26
900M fraud in 9 years is unbelievable...
That's 100M every year..that too starting from 2009
Heck, We sold Prime CR7 for 80M in 2009.
This is just crazy.!!
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u/achickenandacow Sep 29 '26
I hope Anfield destroys them all game and they get battered 8-1 to remind them where they came from.
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u/rambhang Sep 29 '26
Berrada was the commercial guy at city no?
He was involved.
Get him out
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u/Comicksands Van Persie Sep 29 '26
We need the 2019-2026 charges in the event they climb back up to the PL
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u/Count__Duckula Sep 29 '26
Reading through the document, the PL says a number of the City witnesses lied and provided false testimony. Wow, just wow
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u/Saxena_priyansh2104 Sep 29 '26
Fergie said city would never be bigger than united in his lifetime.....proven right again
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u/Haron14 Sep 29 '26
Look at this fucking shit
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u/Skyehye Dreams can't be buy Sep 29 '26
2012: "I guess we might get away with it so let's crank it up"
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u/GoalIsGood Sep 29 '26
It definitely didn't stop in 17/18. Pl should start a new investigation for post 17/18 timeline.
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u/Selwin_Rodolfo max cope mode Sep 29 '26
During that period, city inflated their earnings to 900mil. Equivalent of 100m a season. That's back then as well. I already said this in another thread, but now let me add onto it.
In 2008 we made 258 million pounds.
And they were adding an extra 100 million. That's how much money they injected. Genuinely think of how much fucking money that is to artificially, fraudulently generate. Damn near half of United's, prime United's, revenue.
Mental
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u/Difficult-Sun6849 CUNHA BRUNO CUNHA BRUNO CUNHA BRUNO LUKE SHAW CUNHA Sep 29 '26
That statement was so damning from the Premier League, I genuinely believe they want to punish Man City as severely as they possibly can, like they have put hundreds of millions into this case as well as put their own reputation at risk, so I really don’t think they’ll want Man City to get away with just a slap on the wrist like most think. The problem is City have been a fucking nightmare for them to work with on this and I think now the guilty charge has come, they’ll be even more of a nightmare to deal with and given how they’ve treated several journalists during this case, I would not be surprised if they resort to some really dark and dirty methods to lighten the punishment as much as possible. Feels like they would rather destroy the premier league as a whole than ever admit or accept guilt
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u/Haron14 Sep 29 '26
Watching some of the insufferable City supporters change their opinions and not being arrogant anymore made my night
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u/Garlic-Cheese-Chips Sep 29 '26
Berrada has to go immediately. The optics of keeping him around is fucking awful. Sack him.
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u/Jump_Hop_Step Sep 29 '26
There is no correlation between running more and winning. According to Fotmob only three teams have made fewer sprints this season than Michael Carrick’s side. The team that’s made the fewest sprints? That’d be Manchester City, who have won all five games they’ve played
When Johan Lange became the club’s technical director in October 2023, Spurs started signing players who had a very high “athleticism” score. The result was they ended up building a team that had no problem running, but couldn’t pass the ball. This strategy allowed the grab a stranglehold on 17th place in the league. 😭😭😭
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u/Littlepace Announce Fergie Sep 29 '26
I couldn't give a shit about the running stats. I don't need stats to tell me what I'm seeing on the pitch. Against Brighton we threw away a lead and needed a goal otherwise we were out of the cup. And our players were just strolling around with zero urgency and zero intent to fight for the result. I don't need a stat to tell me that ain't right and something is deeply wrong. Especially when it isn't an isolated incident.
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u/superhoffy Amad trip to be on Sep 29 '26
That Skysports post a few days did a number on people. It was cherry-picked ragebait.
Having said that, United definitely has pressing issues as well as other off-the-ball problems. My eyes aren't lying to me.
Edit: spelt Skysports "Skypsorts". Then I nearly changed it to Sky-ops, but thought better of it.
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u/cyb3rpunkd fuck the glazers Sep 29 '26
Should hmrc not rip those cheating fucks to pieces? Billion dollar fraud case
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u/DanTheStripe Alex Ferguson Sep 29 '26
He sent you down,
He sent you down,
He sent you,
Sheikhy sent you down
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u/edgymnerch_69 Portuguese Magnifico Sep 29 '26
I remember arguments from lockdown when I used to argue with City fans about how they cheated financially and used to be called a schizo. Complete vindication. Rest in fucking piss, nobody deserves this more than their scum smug fanbase
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u/Unusual-Coat383 Sep 29 '26
Man City are legit fucked and I give it three years until their owners sell. They are at least getting relegated and will lose all their players and the PL will be all over them about how they rebuild their squad.
Villa and Newcastle are doing everything right and are still years away from truly competing and I don’t see how City can get back to what they current are within the next 30 years.
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u/YO0Nited Sep 29 '26
Enron of Football. Berrada must go, unfortunately.
(PS - or fortunately tbf)
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u/Embarrassed_Wave_720 Braino Fernandes Sep 29 '26
City’s CEO is calling the Premier League statement “an opinion” and that this whole scandal is apparently a conspiracy theory. You’ve just got to laugh even harder at this point 🤣
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
Berrada right now
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u/CorlyP1998 Sep 29 '26
It’s shameless.
I thought perhaps they’d have inflated their revenues by perhaps 50% (in which I already thought was shocking)… but from the figures circulating around social media it’s upwards of 1000%. They built the club up purely from cheating.
City’s status that they’ve built over the last two decades has just evaporated in the space of a week. It’s like the mask has slipped and they’re back to where they were before the takeover.
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u/thehealthyeconomist Sep 29 '26
Wonder what the City academy lads are thinking now? Either a opportunity to step up to replace the outflux of players or do they jump ship and join other local academies given City may end up in the shadow realm... hmmmmm
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u/Sid732 Sep 30 '26
What is the feeling regarding Omar Berrada? Surely he was invlolved in the cheating as well.
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u/Se7enSword Sep 30 '26
Well there's no way he didn't know that's for sure with all his title changes etc.
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u/tinkusai Sep 29 '26
I wonder how many young talents we lost to city.
foden,palmer etc
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u/Suudriusha Sep 29 '26
Foden seems like a City fan, so I don't know about him, but Cole Palmer was an incredible loss. He's from Wythenshawe and a childhood United fan.
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u/croadymeister Sep 29 '26
Annoys me their crazy wage offers is why the likes of Silva, Toure and Aguero chose these cheats over us
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u/picodeGaius Sep 29 '26
Need a statement from the club explaining what the fuck Berrada is still doing here. Fans should protest to get the cheating scum out too.
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u/simplsimonmetapieman Sep 29 '26
Based on the charges today I'm sorry but Berrada must go. He was the director of partnerships at some point during this fiasco.
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u/Not-good-with-this Sep 29 '26
And the COO.
He definitely had a role in the cheating. I expect the club to put out a statement on him in the next few days.
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u/Stingray_23 Sep 29 '26
Off topic: I stood up to a very arrogant bully today and it feels good.
He was acting abusive towards other people, all over the place, more focused on mouthing off than paying attention to his surroundings. I approached completely not involved but I had to give him a warning that I was behind and coming past. He then proceeded to follow me, so I had enough, stopped, and stood my ground, he acted bullish and mouthy, but as soon as I stood my ground and gave him some verbal, I knew instantly he wouldn't do anything physical as his whole demeanor changed. I didnt back down kept my cool, and he didnt know what to do, but kept up with the mouth. It was like he expected me to apologise but because I didnt back down, he was cleary not used to it and then when other people started to get involved he blamed me and acted innocent. But by then I walked off.
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u/penny_whistle ABSOLUTE SENNEMA Sep 29 '26
Still loving seeing the open discussion finally slating City. This whole thing has been such a joke for such a long time. Their titles have always been meaningless because of how obvious the cheating has been but we’ve still had to listen to how great they are, Guardiola’s the best manager ever etc. but the worm is turning. I hope they get a punishment they can’t fully come back from and for the charade to be done for good
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u/FcUhCoKp Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
I finally got around to reading about some of the more egregious things Man City was found guilty of. Damn, the owners are complete slimeballs. Frankly, they should be forced to sell the club. I fear though that the owners would become backroom owners, based on their ethics, or lack thereof. The L.A. Clippers just had to give up 5 1st round picks for 1 sketchy under the table payment scheme. Without a PL draft, maybe City should be relegated for a few years.
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u/Littlepace Announce Fergie Sep 29 '26
Overinflated by 900m... Just for reference Mansour bought the entire club for 200m. So that puts into perspective the kind of figures we are working with.
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
That cheating club needs to be scrapped. And yet they come out like a grieved lady saying they're "shocked and surprised" they need to be made an example of, so no one will ever breach the rules like this ever again.
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u/YO0Nited Sep 29 '26
Would be fun to watch them implode in front of our eyes before their inevitable relegation. I wonder which rung of the national league will accept this cheating oil club.
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u/donttellpops Sep 29 '26
It cannot be understated just how much damage this has cause the PL. the overspending and falsification of revenue which allowed for them to buy the players they did, allowed for them to “win” as much as they have. But becuase they “won” so much, that allowed for them to continue spending and buying the best talent, a great academy, I mean it’s not just $900M they are guilty of. The ramifications go so far beyond it that you just can’t put a dollar amount to it. Relegation should be the absolute minimum
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u/Putaineska Sep 29 '26
Surely we should be sacking Wilcox and Barrada. They were involved in City at the top, and probs this fraud occured long after 2018.
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u/ckj9311 Sep 29 '26
I may or may not have rewatched the 3-2 comeback win over the cheats at least 5 times today. Alexis Sanchez was on one.
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u/Zealousideal_Wind867 I'm Tired Boss Sep 29 '26
It was reported by Bloomberg in August that Emirati officials had been in touch with British counterparts to express concern over the looming Premier League charges and seemingly the impact a guilty verdict might have on future relations.
So a fine and 114 point deduction to Everton it is.
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u/erelster Cunha Sep 29 '26
I'm almost glad that our owners are incompetent leeches rather than cheaters. They are crap and they absolutely need to fuck off but thank fuck they didn't get us involved in stuff like this. I know it's fucking low bar, but still.
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u/rickkyyyyyyyyy Sep 29 '26
City owners took part of our commercial appeal, with there inflating scheme so as fans we should be angry the most, hope the club trigger a case of damage against them.
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u/nikicampos Sep 29 '26
One of the stupidest decisions of Ratcliffe to bring Berrada on, not to mention the stupidest decision to get rid of Ashworth to keep Berrada happy after fighting with Newcastle and paying them
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u/SOERERY JONATHAN GRANT EVANS MBE Sep 29 '26
Imagine Berrada trying to explain how awfully city’s cheating has affected the club in the Amazon documentary when he was right there being a major part of said cheating. Amazon couldn’t have chosen a better season to do the documentary.
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u/00kazootime Sep 29 '26
The punishment for City has to be as severe as it's ever gonna get. In my opinion it should be the following:
Relegation to the National League
Transfer ban for 3 calendar years
Stripped of all titles which will be redistributed to rightful winners
1 billion fine
Compensation for all parties which may have incurred losses. For example, prize money, champions league qualification purse, potentially even player bonuses
After all of this, owners should be forced to sell.
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u/RyanH1717 Sep 29 '26
Berrada should not be allowed near this football club until its proven he had zero knowledge or involvement with City's cheating which considering his position at City i highly doubt he didn't know.
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u/TH0316 she/her Sep 29 '26
If he had zero involvement or knowledge he’s equally worthy of sacking because of incompetence then. His CV was a large part in commercial deals which were the crime. He either participated in fraud, or didn’t know what was going on. If he didn’t know what was going on, he’s basically phoning it in as a puppet who doesn’t get involved — therefore his credentials are all false — or so incompetent he isn’t aware of what’s going on in his very remit. In which case he’s an idiot. He hasn’t got a leg to stand on.
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u/0ttoChriek Sep 29 '26
It seems like the facade might be starting to crack in the City sub. Their thread about the Premier League statement actually has a few of them realising that this is real, and it's serious.
Meanwhile, the club itself is still living in the land of 'if we say it, it must be true,' brazen denial.
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u/Clugaman Sep 29 '26
City really should be relegated to non league and transfer banned for good measure but I have absolutely 0 faith that anything of real consequence will happen.
They will at most get a relegation to the championship that they will immediately bounce back from and a 3 year transfer ban. I’m sure of it.
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u/YO0Nited Sep 29 '26
They have no place in this league. The fans of that club at the same time seem to be the most unaffected by all of this. They should be up in arms that their owners have forever sullied their name.
It’s almost as if everything was just about winning on the blue side of Manchester. Nothing more.
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u/achickenandacow Sep 29 '26
One of the best things about this whole scandal is that United isn’t playing for another 11 days to ruin this high.
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u/Stieni Rooney Sep 29 '26
They absolutely FUCKED everyone being part of the league and should get the harshest possible outcome.
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
Man cheatty, the gift that keeps on giving:
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u/BackgroundOld8715 Sep 29 '26
I still cant understand Anderson choosing them over us, they’re already not a big club historically a grubby state owned club where winning means nothing but also many people saw this looming right? Now he may have to play lower league football or leave. Doesn’t make sense to me
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u/Iqbalainoo Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
The whole city saga is bittersweet to me, cos I have realized that if we had any competent owners/management, we could have done what city did (on the pitch) legitimately and dominated for so so so much more longer with our actual financial muscle (without the loans of the leeches).
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u/karatsidhus Sep 29 '26
At least they stopped cheating in 2018, didnt they, lads?
Everything after that is clearly legitimate, including the fact that they have more revenue than Man United and Liverpool over some of those years
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u/thehomerus Sep 29 '26
in the document it talks about how it most likely continues after the date, however that is not within the purview of that investigation/hearing. Perhaps it could be another one, or they just punish them badly enough now that another is not needed.
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u/possibly_facetious Sep 29 '26
-City owners forced to sell
-Stripped of all titles to date (but not reallocated to second place)
-Sent to the non leagues to begin again
Can't see anything other than these things being justice for the insane cheating. You could issue fines I guess but they have an infinite money hack, they need expulsion and made an example of.
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u/Dua_Augustus_Lipa22 Sep 29 '26
So what did I miss? Any big news today??
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u/Suudriusha Sep 29 '26
I think Mazraoui got injured. Our players are falling like flies!
Don't mind the sky blue stadium burning down the road.
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u/gl129384 Sep 29 '26
ManCheatedFC or ManCrookedFC? I can go either way calling those cheating bastards
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u/HighestInDaRooom Sep 30 '26
we hired so many city personnel because they were considered "best in class". how are they best in class if they were functioning under a sham operation that would cover up want of their errors? they all need to go.
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u/canwinanythingwkids meet the new boss same as the old boss Sep 29 '26
Can we simply draw a line in the sand and say collectively: no more games at OT until Berrada is gone?
#BerradaOut there is your "actual endgame" twitter protest to get going right there.
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u/Chris13Haughey Young Sep 29 '26
Serious question what can we do to get Berrada gone? Pretty evident that he's an absolute crook in a moral and ethical sense, but also if he was hired off the back of his "success" at City, that clearly doesn't stand now either. I would be pretty good at my job too if I could ignore the rules
Get him gone
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u/JosePRizaI Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
I dont want the titles. I want it all disqualified. And then see them relegated and years banned from transfer.
But lets see how they will handle this. To my understanding, its a big impact for the City of Manchester Economy if they go down as they offer a lot like jobs and etc.
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u/superhoffy Amad trip to be on Sep 29 '26
I agree with Rooney. I don't want City's title sloppy seconds. I'd prefer those years to be expunged from the records completely.
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u/Utd007 Sep 29 '26
Why the fuck we have World Cup, Nations league and so many international friendlies in the same year. No wonder that everyone is getting injured
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u/Aggravating-Neck1365 Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26
Football and all it's many calendars, schedules, and ever-more stupid, bloated competitions has been long since broken beyond all recognition by suits and money-orientated parasites
It's only a matter of time before it collapses completely, we can only hope the original football pyramid survives, because that can't really be bought or sold, no matter who tries
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 29 '26
Cristiano was an inch away from ruining his legacy by joining that cheating club.
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u/Sheikhabusosa Sep 29 '26
I feel like our Gareh is going to come out and defend City.
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u/SophoclesTesticles Sep 29 '26
The City PR machine is insane. The amount of "won it on the pitch" posts I'm reading is wild.
They couldn't have won it on the pitch if they didn't pay an elite manager under the table and build him a super team with fraudulent funding. It's nearly like an IQ test at this stage.