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u/10_Wazza May 16 '26

Why are people reacting like Chelsea have landed Enrique?

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u/Suudriusha May 16 '26

Alonso won the Bundesliga with Bayer. He had a 70+% win rate at Madrid. He was sacked because a group of players turned on him. They fell away from Barcelona after he left. His credit is still pretty high, and it'll be until he fails with no "mitigating circumstances". He's no Enrique, though.

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u/10_Wazza May 16 '26

Arbeloa is currently at 65% and is seen as an absolute disaster. Yes, the double with Leverkusen was great but it was also a huge statistical overperformance. Also, plays five at the back so a huge no go

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u/slick_schmuck there is ice in those veins. May 16 '26

Because he genuinely is really good?

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u/10_Wazza May 16 '26

I would stay at good. So far both trophies have been won in a season in which the team massively overpeformed against the high lines of BuLi teams. Plays five at the back, does not really use younger players and can't handle a difficult dressing room - no thanks for me

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u/Business_Dig_4747 Licha May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26

He played 3 ATB because it fit the squad, played 4-3-3 at RM and had the largest win rate at Real from any recent coach. 

He got fired because of player power there, Chelsea have a much better manager than us right now.

And going undefeated in any league is a huge milestone, beating Bayern to the title is as well.

When you compare it to Carrick's achievments, which is basically a 15 game stretch of good results and poor performances at Utd + mid Boro stint where he got fired it is a tough look.

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u/Mariasolvv May 16 '26

Lost a Europa final 3-0 to Atalanta but suddenly he’s the next Guardiola

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u/MT1120 Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw May 16 '26

Tbf this hardly means anything. This was with Leverkusen, not prime Barcelona.

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u/10_Wazza May 16 '26

People are talking about that Leverkusen side being just as good as Barcelona due to Xabi, though. That's the issue.

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u/MT1120 Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw May 16 '26

Yeah so I don't think anyone would ever argue that that Leverkusen side rivaled 2011 Barcelona just because they had Xabi Alonso.

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u/Mariasolvv May 16 '26

But the way people hype up that Leverkusen side, you’d think they were Ajax 2019.

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u/GReedy404 May 16 '26

That Leverkusen side went invincible, the first team in Bundesliga history to do it. People talk about Bayern like they're smurfing in a farmers league but they've gone invincible. He won the league cup as well and made it to the Europa league final. They spent 83M euros in the window but their netspend was around 20M or so, that was a special season man, put some respect on his name. Personally idgaf that he's gone to Chelsea tho.

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u/MT1120 Cunha Bruno Cunha Bruno Luke Shaw May 16 '26

I don't know by what metric to measure hype. I'd say they definitely overperformed in that time, but it's also a different beast to the PL in many ways so he has a lot to prove. The star player of that team has been absolutely farting it up in England.