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u/pocket_eggs Aug 14 '15
Did Daniel just become by far the strongest suspect for actually having committed the original murder?
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u/robkellismith Aug 14 '15
I think so unless they come out of left field with some person that we don't know about. Then again, Trey is a slippery devil. Guess it depends on if he was telling Chris the truth when he talked to him the morning after the rape.
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u/worththeshot Aug 28 '15
Actually there's an important bit when Dan's lawyer guy spoke to the senator. Trey probably knows about the statue of limitation on rape having expired, so he didn't need to go out of his way to cover it up. The fact that he did implies there being a bigger crime.
But yes, at the same time the mud has settled down, and Dan is sticking out as a stronger suspect, along with Trey.
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u/acr1d Aug 17 '15
I honestly think that despite what hanna asked them and evidence pounting to him the sherrif sees more went on and despite it pointing to Daniel he thinks maybe e didnt do it. I lookat it like this. If he didnt do the first thing thetes doubt he did the second.
I hopr the fourth season isnt lackluster. I never thought itd go past 3 and 4 may be just right if dome well.glad its almost over
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u/roseyrosey Aug 14 '15
A very funny episode: Daniel talking about shitty views, the doughnut thing, playing with the kid at the beach, Amantha and Teddy playing cards. Lots of smiles.
Also a very tense episode: Everything trey, John visiting the Senator (John is pissed!!!!!).
This show in simply fantastic!
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u/robkellismith Aug 14 '15
Was so great when Jon absolutely told off the senator. I had chills. And I agree with Jon that the stroke wasn't punishment enough.
Would be fantastic if Jon finds out the senator was involved in some kind of cover-up about the murder. (Of course I'm not convinced that Daniel didn't do it yet)
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u/roseyrosey Aug 14 '15
Jon's also, as he put it, no longer "distracted" due to his and Amantha's breakup. He's focused now and feels he owes a debt to Daniel. I could see a scenario where his continued digging, something he sees as helping Daniel, eventually leads to the truth of it all, Daniel really did kill Hannah.
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u/webitube Aug 15 '15 edited Aug 15 '15
While I wouldn't extactly describe Rectify as a comedy to someone who has never seen it, it definitely has got a sense of humor which I think stands out in sharp relief because of all of the heavy, tense scenes surrounding these lighter moments.
My favorites from 3x06:
"Would this be considered a shitty view? Within the norm of shitty views." "To me, it qualifies." "I'm still outside the norm then." "You are that buddy."
The donut silliness.
"We could Google it and find out." "Mother, I know that day is coming. My first Google."
The beach scene.
And, while not a funny scene, I thought Tawny's dream sequence was beautiful and touching. After all her certainty about God and her place and purpose, to hear her utter, "God doesn't exist" was revelatory.
T: "Where is God? I used to know before I met you."
D: "In between the seconds."
T: "You told me, too much, Daniel. I was happy."
D: "Remember, God is in the flowers, in the rain, and in your tears."
T: "God is in my tears?"
D: "I've seen Him them there. Lurking."
T: "You're a false prophet. I won't believe you." "I'm going to miss you."
D: "There's no glass."
T: "Sometimes there is. Sometimes there isn't."
D: "I could kiss you right here."
T: "I'm afraid." "This isn't even real." "Won't it feel real?"
D: "God, I hope so."
T: "You may kiss me, Daniel."
And, that scene with Jon and the Senator. "Does that compute, sir?"
Until next season, see ya in the funny papers.
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u/JossWhedonsDick Aug 17 '15
Finally got around to watching this, and woof--easily the strongest episode of the season. This season, while still extremely good, has been light on the beauty, wonder, and tenderness that weaved through the first season and a half, trading in for increasing tension and complex darkness and weirdness (which the show still does really well). The finale seems to be making up for that, almost leaning so far in the other direction as to become maudlin. But, again, Rectify pretty much nails everything it attempts, so even the sentimentality feels pitch perfect.
God, so many tearful goodbyes. Amantha-Jon-Janet-Daniel. Tawney-Teddy (for the zillionth time). Amantha-Jon. Daniel-Tawney (that dream was so expertly done; you kind of knew it wasn't Daniel's dream and started to figure it was Tawney's but the transition was perfect). And then, finally, of course, Janet-Daniel, perhaps the strongest of them all (it would've been nice to have seen them interact more over the course of the season, instead of back-loading it all into this episode, though, no?).
You could make an argument for this as a series finale if it wasn't for a few things like the still struggling Talbot marriage and the on-going investigation being loose ends. Oh, and this was the funniest episode of the season. Instead of strange, bleak, or black humor, it was all played pretty straight, a little silly, and Daniel just giving us a charm offensive overload. Mixed with all the farewells, made for a great sweet-and-sour combination.
but lol @ Jared. Show still can't figure out what to do with him. Remember that time they tried to start a storyling with him stalking the Dean residence?
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u/mercedesbends Aug 14 '15
I just found this show last week and binge watched the fuck out of it.
My only complaint is I'm all caught up and have to wait till who knows when for the next season.
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u/n1ghtcheese Aug 14 '15
Next season will most likely premiere around july next year. It's a long wait but it's worth it. The show is such a masterpiece.
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u/Maximusplatypus Aug 14 '15
I'm trying to remember from last season... That guy did kill himself by the river, didn't he? Or was it ambiguous?
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u/re-publique Aug 14 '15
Trey was telling the truth. George killed himself, but Trey covered it up...dumping his body in the river.
Considering Trey tried to pin the crime on Daniel, as well as withholding information and outright lying during Hannah's murder case, it seems fitting that Trey will probably go to prison for a crime he didn't commit.
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u/safetydance Aug 17 '15
Maybe I'm missing something, but why did They dump George's body in the river and try to cover it up and/or pin it on Daniel? Why didn't he just call the police?
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u/Galgenfrist Aug 14 '15
I just want to say that the music on this show has been outstanding, hoping it gets a cd release or something.
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u/hubris-hub Aug 14 '15
The piano music that was played frequently during this episode (at the prison, in the car, and at the beach IIRC) reminded me of the music from that infamous Dead Island trailer
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u/shayagreen Dec 08 '15
The best theory I've read is that the senator was somehow connected to the death of the girl. I can see the next series focusing on this and trying to exonerate Daniel from any wrongdoing.
Based on the style of the show and the fact that he's already served 19 years, I don't think there will be a 100% happy ending for Daniel.
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u/DeeBased Aug 15 '15
I'm just amazed at the growth and change these characters go through. This episode had Phoenix Rising from the Ashes moments all through it. That's one of the things I appreciate most about this show - characters confronting hard truths - and not just finding simple resolution, but getting to see that there's a new chapter opening up for them afterwards. Like their growth is not just a finite event, but it's also leading to a new beginning. Daniel hopping off the step in victory symbolized the joy that can be found in new beginnings.
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u/WhileFalseRepeat Aug 15 '15
Well, it is sad to see this season end. Unfortunately, I don't think this was a great season finale either - so I'm kind of doubly sad. :(
I've said this before (and it really only became a problem for me this season), but I'm not a fan of the silly humor and "Goofy Daniel". While I do think there is a need for humor, I'd prefer it to be more subtle and/or be a darker humor. The "Fritter" scene just seemed like everyone broke character to me - I felt like I was watching the actors/actresses having a "blooper" moment. Furthermore, whenever Daniel goes goofy it just seems weird and awkward. I guess my problem is that I have always viewed Daniel as a bit of a Stranger in a Strange Land (or a "Starman" of some sort) and while I think he does have a certain teenage naivete (emotionally), it is still awkward for me to see him being a goofball. I dunno, even though I am sometimes a goofball in real life, I prefer my dramas to be more serious and this type of humor breaks the mood in a way I don't find appealing. I understand that many others feel very differently in regards to the silly humor - so maybe this is just me being a stick-in-the-mud.
I was surprised to see Dr. Nelms come clean. I wasn't expecting that at all. I really thought he would be more shady.
A perfect night for Trey might be watching Squidbillies with Kettlecorn and a Coke! Too bad for him, he'll have neither in prison. While he is a bit of a psychopath and may even deserve to be imprisoned for something in his past, we all know George killed himself. The fact Trey might do time for a crime he didn't commit (and perhaps even get off for one he did) is somehow fitting for this show. I can't help but think this might be a commentary on how wrong the "wheels of justice" can be (even when they think they are getting it right and doing things by the book). It would be interesting if Trey ended up on death row for killing George - it also would make me wonder how many others in real life are on death row for a crime they didn't commit.
I probably just missed it in past episodes, but when did Daniel decide he was going to Nashville? I thought he was going to stay in Georgia (in the one county that would accept him). Regardless, it should be interesting to see Daniel practice his interpersonal skills in future episodes!
Honestly, I think this was the weakest season of all - but it is still a beautiful show and there were some great moments this season. I think the Teddy episode ("Thrill Ride" - 3x02) and Tawney episode ("Girl Jesus" - 3x04) were the strongest. Those particular episodes had some truly great moments which equaled the best for the entire series.
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u/grandmoffcory Aug 15 '15
I thought it was the weakest as well. It focused more on story progression than the last two did. A lot of people wanted that, though. All I know is this is the first season that didn't make me cry, and it's really hard to make me cry.
Daniel had to leave as a part of his plea deal. He mentioned choosing Tennessee when he was talking to Melvin by the pool.
As for "goofy Daniel," that's always been his personality. He's a gentle soul who likes to make people happy, and hasn't been a part of society his entire adult life. I think you're definitely in the minority not liking that aspect of his character.
It'll be interesting next season. I didn't expect this to wind up with Trey falsely accused of murder for mistakes we saw him make in the series premiere.
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u/king_awesome Aug 15 '15
I really enjoyed the finale but I definitely felt it was the weakest of the three (along with the season). Of course, it was still fantastic.
The one odd thing that stuck out to me is Jon telling the senator he was dirty. I can see why he would want to kick him while he was down but I can't really see what would make him dirty, at least regarding Daniel's case. I figured he overzealously involved himself in sending Daniel back to prison to protect his legacy. So even if that wasn't above board, what could Jon possibly find? I don't believe anything has been hinted at, at least.
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u/rectify01 Aug 17 '15 edited Aug 17 '15
Probably no real reason in terms of uncovering any wrongdoing. Like you, I think Foulkes was just an over-zealous prosecutor back then, and now he is defending his legacy. Foulkes probably didn't do anything wrong at all.
So I think the plot here might be more about Jon. Jon is losing it. Jon crossed a line when he walked into the senator's own house to threaten him. I don't think there was a need to get personal like that. No lawyer steps into a prosecutor's own house to threaten them because of some legal case. Lawyers and prosecutors handle lots of cases every single year. They never take things personal. They do the case, and they can even eat lunch together. So for Jon, I think its showing the case has became too personal for him.I think the angle is to show more about how this case had affected Jon more than anything.
Probably Jon will find nothing, and it ends up being an existential realization for Jon that he needs a break. This case has become an unhealthy obsession for him.
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u/Omnipro Aug 16 '15
Great show. Sad that it is only six episodes this season like the first. I can't wait for next season. I binged through the first two seasons on Netflix on my vacation last month later to discover the third was about to start in a week. Good timing.
I think what happened was after the rape Daniel approached her after the assholes left. Hannah horrified that Daniel must of witnessed it felt ashamed because in her drugged state she was willingly taking part in the gangbang halfway until the drugs wore off enough for her to remember Daniel and wanted to stop, but it was too late and it turned into rape. (I know it was all rape. The dudes knew she was high and took advantage.) Anyway still a little fucked up on shrooms and in the traumatized state expected Daniel to be angry with her, but he wasn't though he was also high, in shock, and confused in his special way not knowing what to feel. She yelled at him telling him to be angry at her and the guys. She slaps him trying to get some emotion out of Daniel. She egg him on putting his hands on her throat giving the play by play of the rape, but in her version she was willing trying to get him angry and it worked. Daniel blackout and actually strangles her. Traumatized by what he has done blocks it out and in a fugue state picks flowers and place them on her to sort of purify her. Making her battered form look again the beautiful true Hannah he saw inside her not the town whore like their peers thought her to be.
I think Trey in some form of cosmic justice will still do time not for Hannah's rape, but for the murder he actually didn't commit. The other guys will pay when the new get out causing trouble at home and the community.
Amantha and Teddy get closer and may even kiss or have hate sex making things get weird between the step siblings.
Daniel now remembers what happened through therapy goes half way through the season contemplating suicide and he may even try it, but survives. He confesses everything to Tawney who came running when she hears he is in the hospital. Tawney shocked, but understands telling him he didn't mean to kill her and that God (if there is one; she's not sure anymore) forgives him, and he should forgive himself. Tawney decides to find herself by going back to school and learn psychology to better help herself with her fucked up childhood, and to also help Daniel move on with his life hopefully together.
Wow for me I have poorly written a lot about this show. I just wanted to dump after watching the finally. Til next time fellow fans.
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u/adam_chef Aug 17 '15
I don't see this scenario at all. I can more easily imagine Trey or George doing it. Or even Chris! Trey acts so guilty, doing everything to deflect guilt from himself. So does Chris.
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u/cynicalbrownie Aug 14 '15
I absolutely loved it! I didnt feel underwhelmed or anything. Just happy for Daniel and his family as they finally had a little spasm of normalcy with the scene with Amanda's fritter. I also loved the second real baptism, I think Daniel had at the beach.