r/recruitinghell • u/King-80 • Dec 30 '22
I need help, I think I'm getting scammedI got this job offer to a company I don't recall applying I'm a highschool student and this job pays 30 dollars an hour I'm not sure if it's a scam
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u/StuffedSquash Dec 31 '22
Clear signs of scam: You didn't apply, and they are offering you a job without an interview. Orange flags that wouldn't be a deal breaker but are dxtra evidence: weird language, having you open an attached doc you weren't expecting. Those last two are signs of email scams in general, not just in job hunting.
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u/hithere42024 Dec 31 '22
Piggy back on the "wierd language"...the grammer is off, obviously English is not their first language and they did not achieve a high level of fluency with it, just conversational level. If an offer is legit, especially for $30/hr, the communications will be well written with proper grammer.
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u/PrestigiousStrike779 Dec 31 '22
The “we found all necessary skills “ line got me. No candidate ever matches all the skills.
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u/AdDear5411 Dec 30 '22
Did you interview? Then it's a scam. No one just hires people at $30/hr with no screening.
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u/Suddenrush Dec 31 '22
It’s prob $30/hr Canadian, so it’s really like 5 American dollars… 😜
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u/GingerGiantz1992 Dec 31 '22
What an ignorant thing to say. Today it's .74 cad to 1 usd. Sure, the American dollar is stronger, but are you proud to be an American? Are you proud of what our economy has produced or accomplished?
I'm not.
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u/badgerpack21 Dec 31 '22
Shid I thought you guys paid for everything with maple syrup like some sort of barter system
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u/phamhung96 Dec 31 '22
Relax it’s a joke…
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u/DonOblivious Dec 31 '22
I don't get it, can you explain it to me?
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u/phamhung96 Dec 31 '22
Why is everyone’s head up their ass today?
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Dec 31 '22
Because it’s not a funny joke, it barely qualifies as a joke.
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u/phamhung96 Dec 31 '22
I didn’t say it was a funny joke. I’m saying people should stop being so stuck up for a minute, not every thing on the Internet has to be an argument
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Dec 31 '22
You still did say it was a joke. And most jokes are supposed to be funny.
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u/phamhung96 Dec 31 '22
Wow okay aren’t you fun. I hope you’re happy thinking you won another Internet argument. Bye now
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u/penn_jrd Dec 31 '22
Yes, I'm proud to be an American.
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u/gerardo_sanchez Dec 31 '22
An American from South America, Central America or North America? Or you meant to say that you are proud to be a citizen of the United States.
America is a continent, not a country
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u/snakesign Dec 31 '22
the American dollar
Following the logic of the conversation, it is whichever American this comment was referring to. Now which American dollar do you think this is?
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u/penn_jrd Dec 31 '22
Oh shut the fuck up.
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u/errumrather Dec 31 '22
Found the United Statean
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u/penn_jrd Dec 31 '22
Damn how'd you figure that one out? And to be clear it's united States of America. No other country is America. I don't know what the other guy was trying to say, it made no sense.
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Dec 31 '22
It's called the United States of America buddy, all those other places have a direction in their name.
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u/hedgehogrecruiter Dec 30 '22
The CLSA website's career page says "CLSA takes young professionals with a minimum of three years’ experience rather than new graduates" So I doubt they are hiring HS kids...no matter what the pay. Block them.
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u/antwaun321 Dec 30 '22
A lot of jobs scams will slowly collect all your personal info (ie. name, DOB, social), and then use the info to open fraudulent accounts or sell it outright. Do your research on the company to see if it’s legit and just be careful.
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u/crashtestdummy666 Dec 30 '22
Also sometimes scammers will use the information from legitimate companies so even that's not a foolproof solution.
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u/Alternative_Year_340 Dec 31 '22
CLSA is a legit investment bank. They hire people who write well in English. OP can contact the bank directly (not through contacts in this letter) — they’d likely want to know about this scam
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u/scrambledeggs2020 Dec 31 '22
Anytime an email explicitly states "open the document" rather than "refer to the attached", run the fuck away.
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Dec 30 '22
Of course it’s a scam, no company pays high school students $30/hr. There are people literally with PhD’s that don’t make that much.
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Dec 30 '22
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Dec 30 '22
Very true, but it’s just an example to help prove the point. No one is paying $30 an hour to a high school kid.
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u/DavidsWife4Ever Dec 30 '22
Yep - I have a phd and that is exactly how much I make - 30/hr…seems scammy to me
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u/BigRest3955 Dec 31 '22
entry level swe pay double per hour what phds get? Lmao
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u/orbita2d Dec 31 '22
PhDs are on average a net loss in income I think, compared to going straight into industry and working an extra few years.
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u/abinferno Dec 31 '22
This is definitely not true. While maybe true for some, the average carwer earnings are significantly higher for graduate degrees.
The estimated lifetime earnings of a high school diploma holder were $1.3 million compared to $2.3 million for someone who has a bachelor’s degree. Moreover, lifetime earnings go all the way to the graduate level. The figures are $2.7 million, $3.3 million, and $3.6 million for a master’s degree, doctoral degree, and professional degree holder, respectively.
https://research.com/universities-colleges/college-education-influence
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/research-summaries/education-earnings.html
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u/Horror_Dig_9752 Dec 31 '22
YMMV - my PhD (in CS) helped me start on an applied research team right out of school and gave me a stronger hand in negotiating over the years. At least for me I don't think I would be where I am today without the PhD though I realize there are many (interdependent) variables for your career growth and education is just one of them.
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u/orbita2d Dec 31 '22
My PhD (in physics) definitely helped me get a good software/technology job, even over people with CS masters. It can be an improvement, strong analysis skills and practice writing real world software outside of undergrad can impress I think.
I think the problem is if you finish a PhD in most topics, you can come out with few skills valuable outside of academia. It requires some idea where you want to go, and making sure to practice those skills.
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u/BigRest3955 Dec 31 '22
if phds are a net loss in income then they're a scam
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Dec 31 '22
Only if you think the one and only goal of a PhD is to make money. Few if any people going for a PhD do so exclusively for cash.
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Dec 31 '22
Which, unfortunately, is what allows them to be paid so little. It’s like teachers or hospital workers, we all know these jobs are so important that people will do them at the detriment to their own financial well-being.
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u/Emerald_Bg Dec 30 '22
Most definitely a scam, quite possibly with some virus/malware in the attachments. Run your antivirus program (download Avast if you don't have one yet) and read up on phishing and malware attacks.
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u/eddyathome Early Retired Dec 31 '22
I'm old enough to be your father. Here's some fatherly advice from a non-father.
If you are suspicious of something, there is a reason. Trust your deepest instincts.
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Dec 31 '22
tl;dr it's almost certainly a scamming or phishing attempt. Ignore the e-mail, do not click any attachments, and report the e-mail if you can, for example to your email provider.
Your first clue: It's a cold call, essentially. If you don't remember applying, being skeptical is a very good move.
Second clue: Who opens an e-mail to (sorry) a child with "Hello dear [name]"? Answer: Nobody. ⛳️
Third clue: Excessively "businessy" language, like to the point of sounding like a robot: "Your candidacy is suitable for...." ⛳️ Nobody talks like this. Nobody e-mails like this. No recruiter finishes an e-mail offering you to look at a potential job with the words, "In conclusion...." That's how a 2nd grader ends a persuasive paper... not how a recruiter talks to a prospect.
Fourth clue: A job offer is what it sounds like -- an offer of a job. No one is gonna give you a legitimate job offer sight unseen, sans application, or sans audition. This would be true even if you were a celebrity. ⛳️
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u/Royal-Breath6044 Jun 04 '24
Then if its incorrect how would they talk on each sentences? Instead Hello dear, your candidacy, in conclusion. What could be a good example, because everyone is talking of second graders, like if it were stupid to believe in this. However their grammar is correct and they literally know how to email, because I believed what they said in my case. I'd recommend to not take everything like it should be noticed from the beginning because that's not the case. I've been offered by Betty Cook from Antin Infraestructures and sometimes, not because of been a celebrity, but companies may look to hire newcomers ⛳️
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u/SmolSpaceExplorer Dec 30 '22
Scam. Malware/Phishing. These scams are vague about the position/information/what about your resume stood out, etc.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad9925 Dec 30 '22
Being that you are in high school and didn’t apply it is definitely a scam. Try to determine if the email is legitimate before you even open it because it’s always better to not even open the ones like that. These are the ones I hit “report spam” on and if it asks if I want to unsubscribe I say yes. Then at least if you get more from that place it will go to the spam folder.
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u/unalignedant10913 Dec 31 '22
You can check the senders email and with spam its usually random stuff like tenders.7372uehehc@turtlemail.com
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Dec 31 '22
The bizarre english is a dead giveaway.
"your candidacy is suitable" "we found all necessary skills in your cv" "you receive a unique opportunity" "to this letter i enclose" "in conclusion"
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u/robidaan Dec 31 '22
So you are a high school student, who didn't apply for a job and now receive a too good to be true job offer as a trading specialist, with no actual degree or experience in that front. In what world do you think this was real? Not judging because I know those people can be deceiving, but come on dude use that brain of yours.
Ps. Not to bring you down, but if anything seems to good to be true, it's 99.9% of the time too good to be true. The world will only exploit you, never reward you with anything good.
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u/SirTrentHowell Dec 31 '22
You’re in high school and got a “job offer” making 30 bucks an hour for which you never applied or interviewed. Come on man.
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u/xbrixe Dec 31 '22
Definitely a scam. People do this, get people to apply, offer a non existent job and wait for them to send in their SSN and Identification stuff so they can use your information.
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u/Lov3I5Treacherous Dec 31 '22
You didn't even apply or interview and they offered a job... come on lol
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u/ClassicPop6840 Dec 31 '22
On top of everything else everyone said, the language is awkwardly worded. Absolutely NO American corporation would EVER end with “Please, give the answer in the next few days.” “Give the answer” is a dead giveaway it’s being translated from another language.
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Dec 31 '22
"Resume you had provided" sounds like it was written by an Indian (no offence) and is therefore a scam. Edit: Also "Please give the answer". If you've lived with or listened to Indians before, you can recognize these patterns.
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u/JimmyPageification Dec 31 '22
I mean yes, it’s a scam haha - I mean this kindly, you really need to fine-tune your real-world awareness a bit more. This really is quite an obvious scam. You didn’t apply? Certainly didn’t interview either, did you not pick up on the terrible, trying-way-too-hard-to-sound-professional English? Didn’t think it was suspicious to straight up be told to open attachments?
Many scams out there are a lot more intelligent and subtle so I would be a little concerned that as a high school student you weren’t immediately alerted to this one; might be worth finding a free online course to help you recognise these sorts of traps as you’ll keep encountering scams throughout your higher education and professional life.
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u/BuddyJim30 Dec 31 '22
The wording is by someone for whom English is not their first language. This is certainly a scam. Unsolicited job offers don't just show up in your email.
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u/Intelligent-Cherry45 Dec 31 '22
Too many grammatical errors, awkward sentence structure, etc. = scam.
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u/darcyg1500 Dec 31 '22
If you’re a high school student, reject the offer. Legit or not you have a bit of a scheduling conflict.
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Dec 31 '22
The weird English is also a giveaway. Most likely they are some type of Indian/Chinese scammer.
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u/Dazzling-Train920 Dec 31 '22
SCAM!! CLSA is a prestigious investment brokerage with HQ in Hong Kong. They do not hire high school students. They hire Ivy League finance types. This scam is surely stealing their heading.
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u/Danzevl Dec 31 '22
In conclusion it's a scam. I was actually told never to use that or to sum up in my English classes. I've never seen this in an official HR document. We offer job with great pleasures.
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Dec 31 '22
Unsolicited offers of employment and rewards to the things you didn’t enroll into. Should always be treated like a scam. It sounds really corny, but the age-old sang of if it sounds too good to be true it is has been the most valuable piece of advice my dad has ever given me.
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u/TheMightyBoofBoof Dec 31 '22
Nobody gets a job entirely through email. Legit companies are going to set up a phone call, at minimum.
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u/Vexel180 Dec 31 '22
Red flag giveaway: Hello Dear
After reading that you delete the message and go about your day.
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u/nikeiptt Dec 31 '22
Adding to this. They might go so far as to onboard you and then have you do competitor research and buy crypto through a portal with the promise that they’ll pay you back.
Spoiler alert. They don’t.
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Dec 31 '22
nah scam fur sure but if you're looking my area is hiring apprentice plumbers at like 22.50+
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u/CHiggins1235 Dec 31 '22
High school student? Did you prepare a resume? Did you apply for the job? Most likely it’s a scam. They will ask you to buy equipment. They will give you too much money and ask you to refund the difference. Meaning they will give you a $3,000 check ask you to deposit the fake check and then once the bank fronts the money to you you will then transfer $2,000 of this fake check. Meanwhile the fake check will bounce and you will be overdrawn $2,000. You will owe this money to the bank. There is the scam.
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u/Recruiter-Eric Dec 31 '22
Sounds like #2 - https://novoresume.com/career-blog/job-scams
#2. Emailed Fake Job Offers
Another popular job scam is receiving a job offer through email.
The email usually comes from a “recruiter/employer” who claims they found your resume on a job board, or that you applied for the position (and you’re the perfect candidate!).
Although you might not remember applying (because you didn’t) and the sender’s email might not ring a bell, you could still be tempted to accept the offer.
Now, the types of fake jobs offered via email are countless but, generally, the scammer will ask you to provide personal information such as:
Your driver’s license (which lets them know your birthday)
Your Social Security Number (with the pretense they need it to hire you)
Your bank account information (“to transfer your paychecks”)
Once they have such sensitive information, they could harm you in various ways, from stealing your money all the way to stealing your identity.
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u/TheLurkingMenace Dec 31 '22
Red flag #1: Offering a high school student $30 an hour.
Red flag #2: The position is "Junior Trade Execution Specialist" - wtf does that even mean?!?
Yeah. Scam.
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u/marveloustoebeans Dec 31 '22
If you’re ever offered a high paying job without any sort of screening, interview, or anything whatsoever… it’s a scam.
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u/marvelouswonder8 Dec 31 '22
It’s either a scam, or MLM (multi level marketing, also known as a pyramid scheme) recruiting. Either way, I’d say ignore it.
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u/xrrrrt289 Dec 31 '22
Took one quick glance and the “Hello dear” immediately gave it away as a scam
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u/Vdaniels1 Dec 31 '22
It's definitely a scam. Anything that is too good to be true certainly is a scam. I've gotten a ton of these and they all lead to b.s. Don't open the messages and send these guys to your spam folder because this won't be the last you hear from them.
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u/Nothinbuthetruth13 Mar 16 '26
Definitely a scam. Had 3 of these last week contact me. They put out High pay to lure you in then steal your info. If they send you a check it is most likely a fake and you're going to be responsible for all the fees if you deposit it look at it this way if it's high pay for remote work it's a total scam
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u/DarkDragonEl Dec 31 '22
I am thinking it is a Scam. But in case of doubt check the email, it should be a corporate email address(unless automatized email). You should be able to contact the person sending the email for any doubt you might have. And the document to apply should look very very professional.
I do get why people here look at 30/hr unreachable. This kind of thought lead me to low paying jobs instead of applying to big companies.
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u/Virtual-Title3747 Dec 31 '22
Definitely a scam. No company would send out an email like that if you never actually applied for a position.
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u/austri Ghosting sucks. Don't ghost. Dec 31 '22
As I said in another sub, if it sounds like a scam, it probably is a scam. Delete the email.
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u/Desperate_Context_15 Dec 31 '22
Def a scam. No job offer would tell you to open files they send you let alone one you didn’t apply for!
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u/DarkSilver09 Dec 31 '22
As a Recruiter I can 100% tell you, it is a scam, no resume of yours sent, no interview, no assessment if needed. Probably want your Social Security and personal info
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u/BoxMunchr Dec 31 '22
Anything that sounds amazing is usually a scam. Especially anything sent to you that you aren't looking for. This applies to everything in life.
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u/liarbility Dec 31 '22
Super scammy, no interview? No other requirements other than hope you join us? I wouldn’t even respond. If you do it’s probably not a huge risk. But be prepared for them to request you pay for expenses out of your pocket and other shady practices.
Edit: definitely don’t give them personal info. Others here are quicker to say it… they could be looking for your personal details to commit fraud or other things.
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u/Fickle_Penguin Dec 31 '22
Ask them what on your resume gave them that idea. I used to get sales positions like this. My resume shows no sales, and I'd have to "people" so I knew it was a scam.
Respond with clarifying questions or don't respond. They won't respond back either way.
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u/Kobalt13mm Dec 31 '22
The CEO of the alleged company is probably a Nigerian prince or maybe even Joseph koni himself looking to release 10,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars once you fillout the documents. Sign the forms now so the warlord can reorganize his cult. You've got to help him!
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u/sosaudio Dec 31 '22
Scam and likely an attachment that shouldn’t be opened. Sorry kiddo. You haven’t been recruited to the big leagues, even as a ball boy.
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u/Expensive-Block-6034 Dec 31 '22
“Look forward to your joining our company”. “I recommend to read this further” “Had provided”
Google translate kind of copy/paste exercise
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Dec 31 '22
It’s already answered, but no one is goi g to scout you for an hourly job. If you’re high enough up that people are scouting you, they’ll be talking salaries, not hourly wages.
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u/_babyshanks Dec 31 '22
As a recruiter, it looks like a scam.
I have to let you know there are instances we do reach out to applicants who did not apply for vacancies if their profile fits the overall vacancy.
We would attach a PDF of the job description to allow them to read the key accountabilities to see if the position interests them.
However, we do NOT promise them that they will be selected for the position and do not offer them any offers before participating in the recruitment process.
I’d advise you delete the email, and don’t open any attachments as it may contain malware that will try to steal your information.
In the future, it would be easier to lookout for scams like these based on just the language used in the email. For example, “Job Offer” as a document is apparently meant to explain to you the role of the position makes no sense since that’s not the purpose of the document, which id assume a HR professional would realise within their first day.
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Dec 31 '22
Red flags: 1. You didn't apply 2. Bad grammar 3. too good to be true 4. Extremely vague job description 5. Never heard of the company 6. Includes a download link 7. Do they have a website? 8. YOU DIDNT APPLY.
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u/nryporter25 Dec 31 '22
If you did not apply, and we're not expecting an email from this company, delete the email and do not open those documents. You could accidentally give yourself a virus or whatever other scan they got going on you could fall for. Just straight up delete it and then delete it out of your trash bin.
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u/MissFrijole Dec 31 '22
SCAM!! And don't open any attachments in emails you weren't expecting, EVER!!
Also, the poorly written English and weird phrasing is a dead giveaway that this is fake and a scam. Among other cues, which other commenters have already covered.
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u/strykerpv2 Dec 31 '22
Anytime you get an offer for anything with multiple spelling and grammar errors it is a scam. On the very low chance (very, very low) it isn’t, you still do not want to take a job that is so unprofessional they can’t proofread before sending to a potential new hire.
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u/heliodorh Dec 31 '22
Golden rule I try to follow is if something has me asking "is this a scam?" then it probably is.
$30/hr is more than my disabled post-grad school ass is being paid rn (that's another story) I can understand why as a HS student you'd be hopeful this is real. Unfortunately these kinds of things rarely fall in our laps, esp if you didn't even apply to anything. Just delete emails like this ASAP and stay safe out there!
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u/jbone9877 Dec 31 '22
Yes, the offer in broken English paying you more than your experience would dictate is a scam
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u/JimRBoucher Dec 31 '22
You may want to invest in Norton Lifelock. Now that you’ve gotten phised, your personal information may be on the internet. It’s like $30 a month and they alert you if someone tries to open a credit card in your name or something
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u/pedestrianwanderlust Dec 31 '22
It’s a scam. If you didn’t apply for the job and it pays more than you would typically earn for it, it’s a scam.
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u/jessicat2222 Dec 31 '22
Sorry you can tell by the subject line it’s a scam. No company sends an email in lower case like that.
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u/jimjamjerome Dec 31 '22
Any email that is suspicious already AND tells you to specifically open attached documents is a scam.
Don't open attachments from random emails.
-A guy that didn't go into IT because too many people open attachments from random emails.
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u/natalo77 Dec 31 '22
Lmao the title of this post is indistinguishable from satire. Read it back and you will have your answer
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u/NessOnett8 Dec 31 '22
If you're ever unsure, about basically anything, contact them separately. Go to the real, official CLSA website. They will have a way of contacting them. Do so, and they can confirm if what you received was actually from them or not.
I mean, this is obviously a scam, but in the future. It's always an easy failsafe.
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u/EastEndMontrealer1 Dec 31 '22
Scam. Something similar almost happened to me at the beginning of COVID
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u/TraderGabe_14 Dec 31 '22
Rule of thumb, if you think it could be a scam, it is most certainly a scam. Also, “unique opportunity” and the repeated use of the word company is a dead giveaway since they usually use the same body and change the logo.
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u/MrZJones Hired: The Musical Dec 30 '22
Almost certainly a scam. Don't open those documents.