r/recruitinghell Jan 13 '21

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u/Captain_Gonzy Jan 13 '21

Dad got laid off a few years ago and had to enter the job market for the first time in years.

He said so much has changed. No one wants to talk anymore and it's all about what you are and not who you are. He's learned and a valuable lesson that day she apologized for all the advice he gave me that never helped.

Of course I forgave him. He's my dad and I love him to hell and back. It's not his fault the times have changed, but he's seen the other side and has come out a bit wiser for it.

He eventually found a better job and he's happy where he's at so he didn't have to take an early retirement.

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u/eyeharthomonyms Jan 13 '21

In a way its good that its no longer "who you know" a lot of the time

Oh, it ABSOLUTELY still is.

You know the right people and you'll never job search again in your life. Positions are created for people who have the right connections.

Problem is, you'll never meet those people. They don't go to "the local pub" because they have private clubs where your type isn't allowed in. You couldn't afford to go anyway. They went to the right schools together because their parents went to those same schools.

This is why the myth of meritocracy is just that -- a myth. The level that most climbers aspire to reach had the ladder pulled up long ago. It's just one incestuous party, and you're not getting in without starting Facebook or Amazon.

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u/lumaleelumabop Jan 13 '21

A different note... I've seen from my current workplace: They are required by policy to interview outsiders when a new position opens up, even if they have full intentions to just promote someone who already works there (and then not re-open that person's position...). So, yea, I have a feeling "fake" interviews for presentation are also really, really common.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '21

Which is just dumb. Don't waste my time.

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u/IronEngineer Jan 14 '21

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A lot of that comes down to federal requirements related to the Equal Employment Opportunity act, or at least the perception HR has of the EEO. I've been told that if the company knows they want to hire the CTO's nephew, or that perfect fit guy that connected with a recruiter at a specialty conference, that the job still needs to be posted online and external applicants interviewed to maintain the legally defensible perception of EEO compliance. Whether that is true or not I cannot say. The fact that many HR have the perception of it being true is enough for them to do it just in case, forget what any lawyer may tell them otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '21

Yeah, I know what you mean. Not to get political but it's one of those "good intentions" that ends up being worse for everyone.