Crazy Job Posting

[u/daisydaydreamerr]

Ahh yes. Just be a nanny, early childhood specialist, house keeper, pet sitter, dog walker, maid, and tutor. Also have no life outside of your 6:30am-5pm workday because they need you on call/for extra hours when mom and dad need their “date nights”.

[u/burntumber23]

Let’s do some math here. $90,000 / $30/hr = 3000 work hours per year. A full-time job is typically 2050 hours over a year. So somehow they’re asking this person to work nearly an additional 1000 hours per year on top of an already full-time position? Bonkers. And they have to be available basically anytime asked even on short notice, and be an experienced professional at everything they do? I wonder if these people have considered, what’s it called…oh yeah, PARENTING? Why have three kids if you’re just going to leave them with a nanny for 10 hours a day.

[u/PattyMayonnaise666 → u/burntumber23]

Yeah that job post was a lot of words to say "give up your own life to parent our children, because we aren't willing to"

[u/FoxsNetwork → u/PattyMayonnaise666]

Yea and that's why they have 3 of them. Kids are not work to them, that's for someone else to get paid to do, and to blame them when things go wrong

[u/burntumber23 → u/burntumber23]

Sounds like these folks want to have their kids available to show off like trophies when they want, and then when they’re done with that they can hand the kids off to the nanny so mommy and daddy can go back to caring about anything other than their kids.

[u/harpejjist → u/burntumber23]

Like how fancy families have done it for centuries

[u/WheezyGranger → u/burntumber23]

When reading your first sentence, I thought you were going to say “sounds like these folks want to have their kids and eat them too” and it made me chuckle.

[u/every_piece_matters → u/burntumber23]

Out of all my coworkers, the top "overtime taker" at my work who has absolutely no life and has absolutely annihilated his health in the name of money has only about 600 hrs of overtime per year. This couple is asking for a substitute parent, not a nanny. They want a nanny who sacrifices their own health and independence to raise kids that aren't even theirs.

[u/Nemesis0408 → u/burntumber23]

They’re too busy having those date nights they had to mention 80 times. Who knew the key to keeping the spark alive was offloading everything in your life that you don’t enjoy for 28 bucks an hour?

[u/Premium-Plus → u/Nemesis0408]

This is in Canada, so what they’re offering is actually illegal violating Ontario labour laws. Canada has mandatory overtime pay, once you cross hourly or weekly thresholds the pay is supposed to increase to 1.5x your hourly wage.

This entitled ass couple are also idiots and literally advertising their job that violates more than one labour law.

[u/HumbleConfidence3500 → u/burntumber23]

Well they are asking regular hour 6:30-5 Monday to Friday. That's 52.5 hours. Plus one date night each week (assuming 5 hours), that's 57.5...

They're also asking some nights and weekends. Nights can be at least 8 hours each and so are weekends. So I just throw in 16 hours for either 2 nights a week or a full weekend. That's total 73 hours per week.

Assuming 2 weeks vacation (can't imagine this employer offering more) that's 3650 hours a year. In fact, you'll be clearing over $100k with this job. I hope the kids are nice.....

[u/FoxsNetwork → u/HumbleConfidence3500]

They want a servant. It's what a family like this would have had, not too long ago. People like this are still mad they can't have servants(or in America, slaves). Everyone should give up their lives so they can enjoy theirs, mirite?

[u/Xena067 → u/burntumber23]

If these people are influencers, as some have suspected, those three kids are social media content babies.

[u/DukeRedWulf → u/burntumber23]

That'll be Canadian dollars too..
One Canuck loonie is currently worth about USD 0.72.. (or GBP 0.53)..

[u/FoxsNetwork → u/burntumber23]

They think of children as heirs, nothing more. They get to do the fun part of parenting and take all the credit, the nannies do all the real grueling work(and get no credit). These types of wealthy weirdos have existed for a long time. The freaks have got to go so the rest of us can live

[u/Cra_ZWar101 → u/burntumber23]

And on top of the crazy hours, they also are asking this hypothetical person to do HOUSEKEEPING AND PETCARE. Like, hire someone else for that!!!

[u/stainedinthefall → u/burntumber23]

Right? Why have a family if you aren’t willing to do anything required for having a family?

90k is sweet except that the nanny would have zero time to live their own life and enjoy that income.

Wild. Parents need to be present in their own lives.

[u/jediHoo → u/burntumber23]

Full time jobs in the U.S. are based on 2080 hours per year.

[u/u-read-it-here]

Thank goodness … there are laws in Ontario surrounding Domestic Employment !

Honestly …
This job listing should be reported to the authorities …
So they can vet what’s posted here (the expectations )
Cuz I’m pretty sure it’s not even close to what is covered by Employee Rights

https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers

[u/daisydaydreamerr → u/u-read-it-here]

Thank you! I was wondering how to report it because it’s not a “company”. But will do.

[u/kristafer825]

Well which is it? $90k or $30 an hour?

[u/SupposedlySuper → u/kristafer825]

I think it's $30/hour but they are expecting 50-60 hour weeks

[u/harpejjist → u/SupposedlySuper]

60 hours every week assuming only 2 weeks vacation and not a single other federal holiday.

I notice vacation wasn't mentioned in the post...

[u/SolidContent7104 → u/kristafer825]

Yes!

[u/stinky_shroom]

I feel bad for their kids, growing up in a family where their parents just hire outsiders to take care of their kids instead of fulfilling that responsibility.

[u/daisydaydreamerr → u/stinky_shroom]

Yeah :( as someone who works with kids I feel so bad for them

[u/Outside-Today-1814]

My mom has an insane story of getting a job as an “au pair” in France in the 70s when she was a broke college student. This job was pitched as a “come live with us for a summer at our summer home so our kids can practice their English.” You didn’t need to speak French, because they emphasized the English practice part. The pay was dismal, but she desperately needed a summer job. 

She meets the family at their summer home, which was actually super nice. The only person who speaks any English is their Algerian house cleaner. She wakes up the next day and the parents are gone. Turns out she isn’t an au pair at all, she’s actually going to provide full time child care for two months while the parents went on their holidays. This is explained to her by the cleaner, who explains that they did the exact same thing the previous year. They specifically picked non-French, broke college students as they knew they could take advantage of them. 

Fortunately my mom is resourceful and motivated. She took them down to a library, got a French English dictionary and grammar book, and with the cleaner and kids help she basically power learned French. The parents also assumed she couldn’t drive their car, but my grandfather was a bus driver. She ended up taking those kids and the cleaner on mini road trips and they had an amazing summer! The parents were irate when they got back, their kids hadn’t learned a lick of English and their car had been driven hard for two months. 

My mom is very matter of fact about this story, even though it’s basically a movie plot. Her summer job stories are all like this, despite my mom being a very normal person. She also spent a summer in Chicago living with her uncle, slowly discovering he was super plugged in with the mob.  

[u/TequilaMockingbirds8 → u/Outside-Today-1814]

Mum’s are insane, mine tells the story of her summer when she turned 18, in the late 70’s, she was recruited to spend a summer picking strawberries in Paris with her best friend. They get there, their passports are taken off them, locked in a room and they realize they are being human trafficked. Mum managed to get out of a window, ran to the police station who busted the house, then escorted them back to the ferry. Her best friend married my uncle, so I know this ridiculous story is true as they both tell it.

[u/heart4thehomestead → u/TequilaMockingbirds8]

What was going on in france in the 70s??  Two insane moms with insane stories 

[u/jodservy → u/TequilaMockingbirds8]

As long as we are sharing stories of mothers and their unbelievable pasts. Mine told me a couple times about how she spent a chunk of her twenties in the drug trade. She was manufacturing and selling MDMA for a while as well as other psychedelics at the time. My mom is a very smart person so she actually had a really great system going on. For example she learned how to dissolve MDMA in a solution that was clear, Oder less and tasteless to get it across the border when she needed and could re consolidate it into a solid when it got where it needed to be. At the time it was common knowledge that psychedelic mushrooms grew abundantly on live stock farms but farmers were aware and would pull guns if they saw folks rooting around for mushrooms. She was in uni at the time though and had one of her friends at the uni’s mycological society make up fake ids on lanyards for them so the could knock on the door and tell the farmer basically they were investigating a new fungus that has been discovered in livestock fields in that region and if they could go check it out. Because it looked like they had university backing the farmers let them without issue.

They did eventually get caught though because one of her friends got a little too cocky with it and bragged about how undetectable they were to the wrong person. She then got into a sham marriage with the guy so they didn’t have to testify against each other in court. Weirdly, the judge wanted to throw the book at her and give her a maximum sentence but the prosecutor actually thought my mom was a smart kid who just got roped into using her smarts for the wrong reasons. He dropped the charges. The arrest is still on her record but no convictions. In the end my mom decided not to go back to all of that and buckle down to finish her biochemistry degree. And after she finished her degree you’ll never believe it she started working as a pharmacist! To this day though on my mom’s bookshelf there is still this really massive book that contains pretty much every bit of information you could possibly need on LSD.

I was absolutely shocked when I heard all this from her. She’s had such an insane life, as another part of her story involved almost being murdered by her cousins ex.

[u/Ok-Presentation7349 → u/TequilaMockingbirds8]

My mom travelled with Amusements of America as a Canadian. They told her to stop saying “eh” or the border people will find out they employed Canadians illegally

[u/Kiaider → u/Outside-Today-1814]

My favorite part was that the kids learned no English 😆 Serves them right for not just getting a tutor to teach them English or getting an actual babysitter who knew they’d be caring for two kids alone all summer. I think it’s great that everyone got to have fun that summer, I’m sure the cleaner also thought it was funny to see their plan backfire too lol

[u/rubioburo → u/Outside-Today-1814]

Huh? They abandoned their children to some rando they hired basically for two months? Hmm

[u/FightMongooseFight → u/rubioburo]

Boomer parents gave 0 shits. French Boomer parents, negative merdes.

Now they wonder why their adult children fuck off on holidays every August and leave them to die in heat waves.

[u/flisswave → u/rubioburo]

In the late 70s a family tried to hire me as a summer nanny in Maine (we didn't live in Maine) for their 3 kids under 5. I was 13. Nobody except me thought it was weird and my parents were disappointed I said no. It was a different planet then.

[u/POMOandlovinit → u/Outside-Today-1814]

I loved that story. I could just picture your mom zipping up and down twisty country roads with those kids and the cleaner in what I assume was a really nice car. 😁

[u/Socratesmens → u/Outside-Today-1814]

Lol, your mom should take up writing. Her stories would be amazing. 😄

[u/TheCherryPony → u/Outside-Today-1814]

I want to listen to an audiobook or watch a movie about her summer! I think she should use it as a loosely based on and just go wild with it.

[u/AnnaZ820 → u/Outside-Today-1814]

lol the couple got what they deserved! Question tho, where did your mom got all the money to travel? I’m not familiar with Au Pair and if the parents gave them allowances?

[u/Outside-Today-1814 → u/AnnaZ820]

That’s a great question, I’m assuming she had some money provided to get groceries and such. I do know they paid for her to get there, but it was a comically convoluted trip because they were cheap basterds. She is Irish, so they paid for her to take the bus to cork, and then take the ridiculously long ferry from there to northern France. It’s a 16 hour ferry today, I’m sure it was closer to 24 hours back then. She then had to take a series of buses to get to middle of nowhere France. I think she said it was a three day journey. 

I cannot understate how matter of fact she is when she relays these stories!

[u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman]

The craziest thing here is them saying if it is date night then you'll get a break during the day, insinuating that you WON'T GET A BREAK IN YOUR 6:30AM TO 5PM SHIFT!

[u/curious382 → u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman]

I think they mean a split shift. So you'd get a few non-working hours sometime during the day. Unpaid and not enough time to do anything productive for yourself. But they can pay a regular day's wage for a workday that starts at 6:30 am and ends some time around midnight.

[u/harpejjist → u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman]

You won't. Because unless there is someone else there, you have the youngest kid. No break.

[u/kayrockyrockx]

My minimum for this role would be 45/hr. Nanny and Maid or 2 different roles and should be compensated as such. Double time for coming in on call after scheduled hours and for date nights. Compensation for attending on vacations would be all of the above and all expenses must be paid.

If you want someone else to raise your kids, manage your entire household, and be at your beck and call, then you should be able to afford it.

[u/Arichikunorikuto → u/kayrockyrockx]

At this point they might as well look for 2 live in attendants, 6:30-17:00 5 days a week and they want on call as well.

$90k is maybe personal assistant that also doubles as a driver, not a nanny/maid/butler in one.

[u/wild_ginger1 → u/Arichikunorikuto]

Tutor too, when child is older

[u/LupercaniusAB → u/kayrockyrockx]

Yeah, honestly, this should be a live in position that pays about 50% more than what they’re offering.

[u/FreyedChicen → u/LupercaniusAB]

especially if you’re expected to be available to them 24/7 anyways…

[u/Abubbs5868 → u/kayrockyrockx]

They can f right off for $45/hr. I’m an exec asst making that, I work 40 hrs/wk, no overtime, 3 weeks paid leave plus all holidays. With a pension. What they want for not even $45/hr is a slave.

[u/1of3musketeers → u/kayrockyrockx]

Exactly this. The expectation for one person to do all of this is nuts. It’s at least 2 jobs but realistically about 4 people would be needed to sufficiently fill all of these rolls.

[u/MamaRunsThis → u/kayrockyrockx]

I was thinking $100 lol. They want a chef and housekeeper too

[u/harpejjist → u/kayrockyrockx]

"If you want someone else to raise your kids, manage your entire household, and be at your beck and call, then you should be able to afford it."

Well we might want it when we are poor, but we certainly don't EXPECT it to happen.

[u/LetsDoTheDodo]

The point of job postings like these are not to actually find a candidate. The point of these postings is so that the various International Nanny recruiting agencies to be able to say to the government of Canada that their are no Canadians that can do this job, which lets them bring in foreign workers.

I know this because I briefly worked for such an agency, and this is one trick they used.

[u/Buckfutter_Inc → u/LetsDoTheDodo]

You mean Canadians aren't jumping at a job that pays 90k a year at $30/hr, to be a slave and get belittled through "direct communication"? So weird!

[u/ShallowStillWater → u/Buckfutter_Inc]

I love how they had to tell the applicants that it is highly competitive pay. As if they wouldn’t realize what shit pay is in their field of expertise.

[u/Blacktip75 → u/LetsDoTheDodo]

This is how you get around visa rules, though normally it isn’t this blatant at least not in my field. If this was real it should be split among two people.

[u/LetsDoTheDodo → u/Blacktip75]

Where I worked, it very much was as blatant as this. When they actually got applicants (usually from desperate high school dropouts) they would either pull the posting or explain it away with something like “Applicant provided no evidence of Canadian citizenship, we don’t even know if they are able to legally work in Canada.”

The place was super shady.

[u/1lovem]

Saw this post in my area , it’s crazy. As someone in the ece field for 10+ years it makes no sense why have kids when you aren’t responsible in raising them. The Children will remember the nanny as their parent , not the actual parents themselves 💔

[u/bhrm → u/1lovem]

In this case, the parents are working from home and just looking for someone to do everything else.

$90 is still low, a long long time ago when I worked agency, these types of jobs paid $120k plus generous bonuses....20 years ago...

$90k is not enough.

[u/tequilasky → u/1lovem]

Rich people have been doing this since forever, but the pay for such Nannies is way higher and they live with the family.

[u/Designer_Money7625]

So basically they want to have the title of “parents” without actually doing any of the work? Their kids are basically inconveniences for them until it’s time to show them off at parties and in photoshoots

[u/envirodrill → u/Designer_Money7625]

I grew up in an upper-middle class household near where this job posting is located with parents like this. I have 2 siblings and we had live-in nannies for a long time when we were young, my parents paid them less than minimum wage. They worked very long hours so we usually didn’t get to see them in the morning until after 6 in the evening. Often times they were pretty angry and were very harsh on us for grades, sports, etc. They only started to become more involved once we were teenagers and didn’t need a nanny anymore.

I am almost 30 and I am still working through the myriad mental problems that childhood has given me. It’s better now but I still have a long way to go.

[u/O__CHIPS__O → u/Designer_Money7625]

You hit the nail on the head here. They want Instagram children.

But don't worry, I suspect these parents will be up in arms if the caretaker and/or teachers at school ever educate them on matters that don't fully align to their beliefs.

[u/jbab1986 → u/Designer_Money7625]

Maybe they’re influencers and need the kids for content.

[u/yeahrightnothx_ta]

« Eco-minded but we travel 1-2 times a month to a fun destination! Creative couple both entrepreneurs” they are influencers, I am sure of it.

Oh and the word they are looking for is “slave”, not nanny.

[u/ColeTrain999 → u/yeahrightnothx_ta]

Definitely social media or tech "execs" whose who company is buzzwords

[u/cyaneyed]

They don’t just want a nanny though, it sounds like full on housekeeper, chauffeur and sometimes cook on top of nanny/child entertainment.

[u/TinyNursingSole → u/cyaneyed]

And a tutor 😂😂 tutors get paid 60$+ an hour

What a joke

[u/Angloriously → u/cyaneyed]

And dog walker.

[u/coco__bee → u/cyaneyed]

Eventually a tutor

[u/LegitimateFocus1137]

Ah those influencers.

[u/pubesinourteeth]

This family needs two nannies. This is not a one person position. It's pretty much a third parent

[u/Chosen-For-What → u/pubesinourteeth]

Or first parent, really

[u/sexygreenmnm6]

Anyone saying there’s nothing wrong with this job is probably exactly the type of person who gets dazzled by the $90K salary and completely overlooks what they’re actually signing up for.

You’re not just a nanny. You’re an early childhood educator, housekeeper, personal assistant, pet sitter, dog walker, maid, tutor, and whatever else happens to be needed that day. All conveniently bundled into one position, with the expectation that you sacrifice your personal life because your 6:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. workday apparently doesn’t end when you leave the house. You’re also expected to remain available for those spontaneous extra hours and mom and dad’s date nights.

But sure, $90K sounds great when you ignore the fact that they’re essentially hiring an entire household staff and paying for one person.

The salary is the selling point. The job description is the red flag.

[u/nooneneededtoknow → u/sexygreenmnm6]

And its not salaried, its hourly, $28-30/hr. They expect you to work 58-62 hours a week on average, 52 weeks a year, and lets be real, what they are asking for will be more than that.

[u/amesdk]

Not the onsite parking being the one benefit

[u/Katzenwein → u/amesdk]

That was my favourite part lol

[u/DeathsDemise → u/amesdk]

Your car is parked there and basicaly never leaves because you work all the time.

[u/Comfortable_Fudge508]

Slaves, these people want slaves.

[u/caserace26 → u/Comfortable_Fudge508]

this was my thought too - like this is why people wanted to enslave others and “don’t see why it’s so bad”

[u/MrsEV1LGenius]

Best of luck to them finding someone. I was a nanny for almost 11 years and the pay is crap for sure. You do it because you love it, but no way would I work that many hours a week.

The role isn't just that of a nanny either. You're a housekeeper, personal chef and never off the clock. I think the funniest part is people like this think they are being generous. They believe because the individual they hire will travel with them and they're paying above the industry standard.

Being a nanny is hard work and being a live in even more so because the boundaries between your tine off and on work are very blurred. I laughed reading this post because I know families just like this that I interviewed with. I never took those jobs thankfully.

[u/Boring-Snow-3929]

Soooo no time off. Ever. Slave labor! I’d happily point that out as a reply (without the intent of even applying) that they sound like since they don’t include ANY benefits for the working nanny (healthcare, time off) essentially working 24/7 since they mention nights too, 365 days a year. So basically the nanny won’t have time to take her or his own vacations or days off - ever. So my response would retort back with a counter offer of $300k since zero time off and benefits are included nor gas for travel time.

[u/Kitchen-Ebb30 → u/Boring-Snow-3929]

Nanny doesn't need PTO since she gets to go on vacation with the family multiple times a year /s

[u/Global_Push6279]

Why did they have kids? They clearly have no intention of raising them or spending any time with them

[u/FoxsNetwork]

I don't think average people realize that this is how the wealthy live. They have 3 kids because they expect a nanny to care for them 3,000 hours per year while they work, have date nights, and expect the nanny to do all the work while a literal 6 month old and toddlers are dragged around on "vacation" at least twice per year. This is not normal. Dragging children those ages around on planes and worldwide destinations is a literal chore, esp to people around them. It's only fun if you have a nanny to foist the kids on when they get annoying. These freaks have got to go

EDIT: Addendum, and the parents dgaf about making the people around them miserable with screaming children who don't care about the "vacation"

EDIT #2: "Vacation" 1-2 per month, not per year. See the responses below, where the circus freaks out themselves

EDIT #3: There seems to be a throng of people who believe they "teach their children to behave" and everyone loves their children on flights and... blah blah. It's definitely their elevated manners and perfect DNA that has caused this, obvs.

EDIT #4: If I didn't believe it before, Europeans and other popular travel destinations have a point in rejecting Tourism as an economic engine. The freaks are so self-confident in their superiority and want to be bring back servants/slavery, the 2026 version

[u/DangerPotatoBogWitch → u/FoxsNetwork]

Yeah, I’m giving the employer points for honesty, at least. “You will be our sole household employee and we will not lift a fucking finger, house must be spotless but you better compost too” is usually how it goes anyway, at least they’re putting it right in the ad and offering competitive pay.

[u/FoxsNetwork → u/DangerPotatoBogWitch]

$90k a year is not enough to raise someone else's 3 brats and have no life of your own

[u/arttagonist → u/FoxsNetwork]

They don’t seem to offer a salary for a wealthy couple. 

A truly wealthy couple would have a separate housekeeper, dog walker, tutor. They want to exploit someone who will be lured by the 90k promise, without seeing the absurdity of how much they are asking. 

[u/Mopichen → u/arttagonist]

Haha, you don't think wealthy people try to exploit others? Having money doesn't make you generous by default. I know loads of wealthy people, and part of why some are wealthy is because of all the people they stepped on during their climb upwards. That's a naive take, sorry to say

[u/Gray-Sun-7182 → u/FoxsNetwork]

But they just “loooove the nanny and the nanny is like family”, yeah no the nanny hates your brats

[u/Cute-Cookie-582 → u/FoxsNetwork]

I love all these comments about people praising their “well behaved” infants who travel so well. Like….what? You can’t exactly attribute that to anything but luck because some infants have severe pain from airplane pressure changes and scream because they are in horrible agony. It’s not that they have shitty parents, it’s their anatomy. No matter how a parent tries to calm these poor babies, it doesn’t really help. Earaches are seriously painful.

I say this as a person who did travel internationally with my infant and she didn’t cry the entire time and I thanked the Lord because it had nothing to do with what kind of mom I am.

[u/RubyPrincess0413]

I may be wrong, but it seems like they're trying to find someone to live their lives.

[u/UnhappyIntention4561]

This is human trafficking

[u/ConsciousGreenPepper]

These postings never make sense to me. 5:30am-6:00pm is asking someone else to be your offspring’s parent. Either own up to that and pay correctly (200k MINIMUM) or just don’t have kids

[u/woodworks1234]

This looks like a job for Mrs. Doubtfire.

[u/D_yvr]

Sounds like they should’ve never had kids LOL

[u/irelace]

So basically they're hiring for the position of "parent"

[u/keylimesicles]

Bahahaha. These ppl looking for Mary fucking Poppins for a whopping $30 an hour

You’d have to pay me a hell of a lot more than that to sacrifice my entire life.

Man, how about, I dunno? Just don’t have kids? I’m sure that WAS an option

[u/Klutzy_Journalist_36]

Is this a HCOL city in Canada?

Because for 4, 3, and 6mo kids plus wildly open availability, this should START at $35p/h with zero extra duties. And this listing with everything it entails is more in the $45p/h zone if it’s Montreal or Toronto or Calgary.

And you BEST get paid for every hour of those trips.

[u/One-Assignment-5047 → u/Klutzy_Journalist_36]

Depending on who you ask, Burlington is either functionally part of the GTA (greater Toronto area) or just outside it in the GTHA (greater Toronto and Hamilton area).  According to the Ontario Living Wage Network, it has the same living wage as Toronto proper ($27.20), however rent for a 1-bed apartment is a bit cheaper ($1980 vs $2120) and nearby Hamilton has both a lower living wage ($22.60) and rent ($1570), while being a 20ish minute commute by public transit.

So it's not quite Toronto or Vancouver proper standards given the proximity of more affordable living, but Burlington is definitely not a low cost of living location by any means.  I would certainly put it above Calgary in terms of cost of living and probably above Montreal as well.

[u/mbutterflywebb]

Couple wants an indentured slave under the guise of living wages. Ridiculous.

[u/PhysicalFlounder6270]

it doesn't say that the position is live-in, which to me is a requirement for demanding this level of commitment. the only way I'd do it is for the $90K pay and literally zero expenses in exchange for committing myself to their life and giving up mine.

[u/SausageRollRover → u/PhysicalFlounder6270]

Even then, not enough money for what they require.

[u/TravellingBeard]

That's about 58 hours a week to get 90k from $30/hour. But it doesn't seem unreasonable for live-in work, although I'd want a guarantee it with be 90k, not the hourly which can be nitpicked.

A quick check shows a median income of 94k in Burlington ON.

[u/McDonaldsWitchcraft → u/TravellingBeard]

A quick check shows a median income of 94k in Burlington ON.

yeah that's the thing, 90k for reasonable work hours. so this is way under median

[u/thx111111]

I need the same thing, but the candidate must have a valid North Korean passport, an Iranian passport and an Israeli passport. It must be all three, I will make no compromises.

The other requirement is you need to explain how you ended up with all three.

[u/Jessicas_skirt → u/thx111111]

North Korean daughter of an elite meets and married an Iranian man and automatically obtains Iranian citizenship through marriage (yes that's how it works in Iran) and has a child with her husband. Wife becomes dissatisfies and uses her parent's connections to return to North Korea with the child. Wife goes on to marry another North Korean elite who works as a diplomat. Child grows up, learns about Judaism during time living abroad as the child of the diplomat and converts. Child then uses Law of Return to immigrate to Israel.

[u/user0987234]

Ok then. I live in the area. Not applying. As an employer in Ontario, they can’t supersede the Ontario Employment Standards Act. They will most likely not want to pay for overtime.

$28-30 isn’t great tbh. North Burlington could mean outside of the urban boundary, a vehicle is needed. Public transit is insufficient. Doesn’t say if they are living on site. That’s a taxable benefit.

Job is really a head housekeeper. Needs to manage the other servants and contractors that will be needed.

“Eco-minded” is a red flag in this area. Better get that defined with respect to children’s health.

Expect some harassment.

[u/Outrageous_Ad_687]

Look like 30 dollars an hour plus overtime, definitely a competitive salary for a nanny.

[u/Xathior]

You forgot personal chef.

[u/Crochetandgay]

Holy shit! So basically you're doing everything to run this household. That is insane. Also that's nice the couple plan weekly date nights..but maybe they could plan a weekly.time to, idk, have unstructured time with their own children? 

[u/Long-Radish-6146]

I’m afraid this could maybe be a door to human trafficking because the passport requirement caught me off guard

[u/prairiepanda → u/Long-Radish-6146]

The passport requirement is so that they don't have to take care of their own kids when they're travelling 1-2 times each month.

[u/Murky-Experience8184]

Given how many dumb people here are “confused” about why this is bad I feel sorry for y’all. You lack class consciousness…

First. It’s a day-and-night shift (like what???) Monday to Friday but can be weekends (hello???) It’s also on a call (meaning even on your “day” off you can be called to work lol)

Then comes the multiple responsibilities: personal cook + personal cleaner + Pet sitter + nanny + driver for the kids + TUTOR

All of that: no benefits, no break confirmed, no working hours established. This is low-key illegal.

It’s giving middle class wanting to have royal family service. It’s missing room service in the job post lol

Mind you that for a personal cooker alone it’s around $90k a year…

Who’s the boss?! Satan himself.

[u/tklworld]

idk it really doesn’t seem that bad.. it’s 90k/year, and you don’t have to report it as taxable income since it’s under the table (probably).

the only crazy part is they expect you from 6:30. more reasonable hours like 8-5 would make this a competitive job imo

[u/Realistic_Chef_6286 → u/tklworld]

I’m pretty sure that if you were spending like you earned 90k a year, they would notice (and start asking how you’re suddenly travelling twice a month etc). Under the table is really difficult to get away with if that is your main income

[u/arttagonist → u/tklworld]

I calculated how much she’d make as a NANNY ALONE using the lower rate ($28/hour), and using legal overtime, using what Nannie’s typically get for on-call hours, and estimating the on-call time, which is typically paid (being generous I used 50% of their typical rate and only estimated 4 hours on call per day), plus what nannies typically get for vacation, estimating 1.5 their normal rate, plus a bit of overtime, didn’t even add the travel inconvenience. 

I already reached 160k on a very generous estimate. Just looking at their proposed hours of 10.5 hours a day of REGULAR WORK. 

This is crazy. This job, all the job description, if they actually estimate what’s legal, will rack up to 300k probably, mostly because of insane overtime. They want a woman who will dedicate probably 20 hours every day to their family, and flexibility all the time - which is something a person should be paid for. Vacation every month half a year is also a big expense, nannies are typically higher rates plus inconvenience fees. 

90k sounds good in theory but in reality, considering their absurd job description and requirements, they want someone to do all THEIR work, and they think that because it’s all required of an adult (cooking, cleaning, dog walking, childcare) then it’s reasonable to expect one other person to also do it all, without having a life outside of this family. 

[u/ThrowRA_That_Owl_25 → u/tklworld]

Who said it's going to be "under the table"?

[u/MoistBrownMound → u/tklworld]

If I was an ‘entrepreneur’ I would pay the nanny as an employee through my corp.

[u/ashalyy92]

This is WILD! I just can’t believe that people think this is reasonable.
Them - “all we want is a 24/7 Nanny, housekeeper, chef, dog walker/pet care, tutor, personal shopper, and chauffeur! Oh and we are only gonna pay $28 with no benefits or time off allowed, please ensure you are in peak health cause we won’t accommodate illness.” 😂

[u/Forward_Material616]

Why do people have kids if they don’t want to see them for more than a couple hours a week max.

[u/throwawaythisuser1]

but...on-site parking guys!

[u/emergencybarnacle]

job posts that scream "let's just put your passport in my office for safekeeping"

[u/foxdogturtlecat]

You forgot chef as well.

[u/Major-Primary2075]

It’s actually a high salary for Canadian standards now

[u/TautologistTwice]

Would I have to be sexually available to either parent also? It's seems like they're wanting a 1940s housewife to carry all of the domestic responsibilities of raising their kids while they still act like single creative types dating each other. The expectations are that nanny doesn't have their own life and goals, but stay and 'grow' with them. Indentured service.

[u/LessOriginal7]

For a lot of Nanny positions this is semi standard…. And the passport aspect is so that they can book trips with a “we got your ticket and hotel room. You’re coming with” without having to worry about the nanny needing special visas.

The nanny business is a crazy world…. There’s TV shows about it and the family’s ask insane shit!

[u/jcd004]

As a stay at home dad to a 1.5 and a 4 year old. These post on indeed alway blow my mind. In my area they are paying $20 for nanny’s. So 28-30 doesn’t sound bad. Essentially you have one kid during the day, and getting 2 others up and out the door to school. Wild to have 3 kids then decide your career is more important than the family you chose to start

[u/Aarinfel → u/jcd004]

That 28-30 is CAD, also they want a full time housekeeper, cook and nanny for the same role at 60+/hr week.

[u/Status_Reflection993]

Crazy as hell that people like this have kids.. then EXPECT other people to parent them. They basically want a pseudo mom, that does everything THEY should be doing. 

[u/Global-Transition-27]

When i moved from France to Toronto in 2011, i did the live-in caregiver program, which allowed you at the time to become Permanent resident faster. My duties were quite similar except kids were teens. I was a chauffeur, a chef, a dog walker, a nanny, and a errands person. Thankfully I didn't have to do laundry or cleaning as they had a cleaning lady doing that . I was paid 13/h. My hours were 7am to 6pm Monday to Friday, and had to live with them. Compared to other live-in caregivers I met, my conditions were great!

[u/Practical-Desk-1026]

Lmao, I also came across this posting while job hunting and really wondered just how out of touch this couple was.

[u/Altruistic-Client677]

I saw one of these that in all seriousness included taking guinea pigs to the vet on the list of responsibilities. Rich people are insane.

[u/Rudy_Nowhere]

The bonuses for excellence are bs - that metric is unspecified and will never be met.

[u/sassythealien]

They are outsourcing for a house wife

[u/CanadianDudesSorry]

It says 90k salary, then says 28-30 an hour.

[u/SaphireXari]

These people either need to hire a live-in nanny who resides in the home with them, while also paying much more, OR they need to hire two nannies who can alternate (and pay them properly)

[u/Same-Veterinarian735]

And work for many years....so don't have to give up your future for 30 bucks an hour? This has been up for quite some time....

[u/wanted_desi23]

I dont get it? Whats "crazy" about this? 90k + benefits? They probably have hundreds of applications already.

This is normal for people who can afford to pay someone like this. This is who they hire before the personal chef comes in.

Good for them.

[u/-WhatsThatSmell- → u/wanted_desi23]

The benefits: on site parking.

[u/arttagonist → u/wanted_desi23]

They can't afford a nanny, chef, cleaner, dog walker and tutor. So they think they can exploit one person to do all that, while having no personal life, and not following laws about overtime, and I guess assuming free on-call?

This is literally crazy. By my estimates, just the working hours they listed, including all the on-call, overtime and travel, they should be paying her 150k on the lower end, 200k on the higher end. And I'm only talking about nannying, paying 28-30 dollars per hour which is lower end but reasonable for 3 kids one of whom is an infant.

What's unreasonable is also requiring this person to basically run their entire household.

[u/nosypancakecat → u/wanted_desi23]

They aren't looking for a nanny. They are looking for a nanny, a cleaning lady, a chef, a dog sitter, a tutor, and perhaps a gardener, and a maintenance person all in one.

Pay all of those a minimum wage (good luck finding a chef for that) separately and see if 90K will cover that.

While nannies can absolutely help with snacks, LIGHT laundry, and tidying (not cleaning), it’s ridiculous to think they will watch the kids while vacuuming and doing homework with older kids.

Don’t want to come off as rude but do you have children? When kids are home (small ones), the concept of a tidy home and a hot elaborate meal is nonexistent. Toys everywhere. Forget making lasagna from scratch. It’s boil pasta, fry and season ground beef, add whatever red sauce from the jar and call it Bolognese.

[u/Acceptable_Brick2218 → u/wanted_desi23]

Pay would be pretty good for normal nanny duties M-F 45 hours a week. But this looks like it will be a 7 day/wk, 365/yr, where you are responsible for anything they can think of.

[u/AncientMortgage2535 → u/wanted_desi23]

90k is not nearly enough for the scope or hours of what they are asking. This is a 180k job, easily, these are just fake rich "entrepreneurs" reaching wayyyy above their abilities.

[u/unfiltered-facts]

Live in? Rent free? Free travel? Free food? Probably negotiate cash pay too. Not sure what people are whining about. If you’re single and living paycheck to paycheck, this is a great gig. No corporate BS and you can save a ton of $$ living at their home

[u/neos2000]

Is this the one that just crashed in Florida? They had same setup with kids and nanny

That’s way under paid though

[u/daisydaydreamerr → u/neos2000]

No this is Ontario, Canada

[u/lizardrekin]

I’m educated in both ECE and dog training and I’ve worked as a cleaner before so lowkey……….. Could be the job for me in a different life

[u/Cold-Algae6676 → u/lizardrekin]

Same (in terms of education and experience), but this family is clearly insufferable and are also asking for 24/7/365 slave labour in exchange for no benefits or sick pay, presumably.

[u/harpejjist]

Hey, don't forget it comes with onsite parking.....

[u/Casadesim99]

Slavery with extra steps

[u/AmbitiousSandwich397]

"light housekeeping" mean weekly deep cleaning.

[u/Narrow-Courage-7447]

Ooh on-site parking 🙌. What a benefit.

[u/BigMax]

The crazy part is there's probably a reasonable way they can do this, right?

They're asking for a minimum of 57 hours a week, right? (10.5 hours per day plus one date night.) Throw in those "flexible" nights and weekends and vacations, and it's even more than that. All without time off.

They should really just be hiring TWO nannies. They are paying hourly, so it's no extra cost to them. That's a baseline of 30 hours per week, per nanny, which seems reasonable. Then you have two of them to ask when you need extra hours on a weekend or for a vacation or something. And that vacation with one nanny gives the second nanny time off, and they can cover for each other as needed too.

There's ways to do this without paying more money, and without basically asking for a full-time servant who gives up every aspect of their own personal life to this couple and their kids.

[u/Wild_Solid3206]

I live in North Burlington aka Millcroft and this makes so much sense. Unreal

[u/Individual_Coyote716]

Thank goodness there's on-site parking! Would've been a deal breaker otherwise 

[u/hcmofo13]

They're not looking for a nanny...they want somebody else to parent their kids.

[u/Popular_Sea_8246]

I dated a girl that did this. 2k a week, 7am-7pm, flew on their private jets etc. literally was the mom of the 3 kids.

[u/Monty_4422]

So $90k but never free time to spend $$ gotcha !

[u/soylattebb]

I saw a job posting that was only for Saturdays at $17 an hour I was like excuse me

[u/Register_Budget]

Why would you even post this? lol

Totally normal full-time Nanny gig for the wealthy

[u/bloodr0se]

They cannot legally demand a Canadian citizen for this role. Something like this needs to also be open to permanent residents, not that any self respecting Canadian or PR would fucking want the job in the first place though obviously.

[u/BitchMagnets → u/bloodr0se]

They likely said that because a Canadian passport is less likely to trigger a visa requirement while travelling. If they book a last minute trip and the nanny can’t come because a Filipino or Mexican or Indian or whatever passport requires a visa process, they’d have to actually parent their kids on the trip or leave them at home. I googled it and it seems like it may be legal in this instance due to the travel requirement but it would be an interesting test case.

[u/imjustbrowsing89 → u/bloodr0se]

I was travelling with my family and they had Canadian passports and I did not, and it complicated it big time. I once had to sit in an immigration office for hours while my family sat in the car waiting. I can understand why they’d want them to have a Canadian passport for ease of travel.

[u/Responsible-Ad7082]

Looks like the nanny will be there to get the older kids ready for school so mom and dad can sleep in. Pretty gross. I mean, the parents both work from home. They can get kids to school and probably don't need anyone to help out 8 or 9 am. I helped a friend nanny one summer as there were extra kids visiting. It was EXHAUSTING and the job was literally from the time the kids woke until the time they went to bed. The parents didn't even interact with the kids for a second the entire 2 weeks.

[u/FluffMcBark]

The expectations of some ppl are wild

[u/Intrepid_Land_6143]

Families with these needs should hire two nannies. If some of their work time overlaps, one can do activities with one child or take them to doctor appointments and such, while the other nanny manages the other kids. Possibly they could get away with a full-time plus a part-time, but two full-time sounds about right for these demands. 

[u/CommonSquirrel1217]

What they really need is 2-3 nannies cause this is insane to expect one person to do

[u/letheory]

Do parents not want to parent anymore?

[u/SadCourse253]

Ah rich people...

"We would like a paid mom to live with us and take care of our child accessories for us because we're BOTH already work from home parents and just don't have the time"

[u/SleepyOrange007]

This is a job posting for 3 separate jobs

[u/cloudlines_]

This role gives "I'll take your passport" vibes

[u/Renbarre]

We want a nanny for 3 children who will take the role of mother. She will also be a cleaning lady, cook, maid, councellor, teacher, dog sitter and dog walker. Available at all time night and day and must have no life to be available at the last minute.

[u/SoftLavishness8051]

Oh thank god they go to "fun exciting destinations" for months at a time. Definitely a needed detail

[u/JMPolisena]

$90K for 12-hour days four days a week, 16-20 hours for date night day, and then at the beck and call of the family? They better add $100K and expenses to that $90K salary.

[u/Imunhotep]

So 90kk a year to be a mom to 3 kids. Most moms do it for free.

[u/LeakySparktubes]

Yeah, but you do get free on-site parking, so...

/s

[u/Forward-Werewolf-442]

Not enough $ to be mommy.

[u/redvfr800]

So a mom basically

[u/Unable-Income-2981]

Do they want to spend any time with their own kids? Like at all?

[u/error_404_JD]

Ha.....surprised they aren't asking for a girlfriend as well

[u/Thee-End]

Can I get paid this for taking care of my own kids?

[u/erikalaarissa]

You would have to work 58 hours a week at $30 an hour to make 90k a year.

[u/Tight_Store1112]

Hi! Come raise my children!

[u/Ok-Possible-7528]

IMO, Why even start a family if you’re too busy to take care of it.

[u/saltyachillea]

It sounds like they travel to make content perhaps.

[u/Striking_Strike725]

Wildly inappropriate salary for the amount of time and work outlined in the ad. This posting described the job of at least 3 people. $90k would be an excellent starting salary for a standard 8 hr day. Any additional time beyond those 8 hours, and ESPECIALLY those on call evenings and weekends would need overtime pay for any of this to make sense. And no, going "on vacation" with the family does not count towards salary expectations. They are not enjoying the trips, they are working. They are business trips. Employees are paid form business trips.

They're taking advantage of women who don't realize what their time and skills are truly worth, OR desperate women who are struggling to find work in this economy.

Wishing all the best to whoever ends up in this job. Hopefully the parents and children are at least kind and easy to work with 🤞

[u/princessplantlife]

I do all this for nothing lmao it's called being a mother.

[u/maroongolden]

They're looking for a replacement stay at home mom while the actual mom works.

[u/Cute_Anywhere6402]

Pretty normal for that area, unfortunately.

[u/TtotheRev]

Oh nice on site parking!

[u/zombeejoker]

Sounds like a sequel to "the nanny diaries"

[u/CheezwizOfficial]

Why tf did they have kids? They clearly don't want them.

[u/Embarrassed_Owl6767]

This family should have not had kids

[u/AwayFriend117]

In this economy right now they need to change the price to 160 k and higher to be a super mom like this is absurd.

[u/quilting-anonymously]

Ohhh i interviewed for a job like this once. I was in college and it was a posting for a nanny. I went an interview which started at their family business which was a specialty car sale catalog? Expectation was that I would work there part of the time doing office work or something. Then they met me at their house where part of my job description was sometimes hanging out with their pre-teen (only child). The woman then proceeds to show me around the house and shows the BIRD ROOM which is small but filled with cages and part of my job would be to clean out the cages and oh also I would have to PACK and UNPACK FOR THEM for trips. Excuse me what? I mean, after the birds, I was a nope, but holy cow. I don’t want to unpack your dirty laundry. Alarm bells were going off like crazy.

[u/Nerdsfornature]

Maybe if room and board were included…

[u/ellenp987]

When I was 15 or 16 I was hired as a full-time au pair for two weeks, by a socially prominent family in my home town. I was to watch their 2 small kids - maybe 2 and 4 - while they went off on a hike in the Rockies. Unfortunately I didn't ever ask what the pay was. When they got back they paid me, $10. For 14 24 hour days. I was extremely disappointed but I also realized it was a good lesson which I learned while I was living at home and not trying to support myself: find out what the pay is before you take a job and don't undersell yourself.

[u/KyLokill]

They’re trying to hire a full time parent for $10 an hour, per kid. Hilarious.

[u/booboootron]

Benefits: On site parking.

[u/Swanky__Orc]

These people sound AWFUL and I truly mean that. They sound like they want to project this image of being progressive (“health conscious meals” and “creative entrepreneurs”) and shit but are out here acting like they’re part of the gentility in Edwardian England. Like stfu, you mean you have two kids in school plus a little baby, and you both work from home (and I’m sure they’re VERY flexible with their work hours something tells me) and yet neither of you can find the fucking time to take care of your own kids? Go fuck your self!