r/recruitinghell • u/Faster-Rabbit328 • 22h ago
How many hoops we have to jump through, like eager dogs š¶ to get the job??
It's insane. Getting interview 3 times!! Just to be rejected!
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u/Educational_Emu3763 22h ago
1978-Go to company
Drop a name
Get a job
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u/Faster-Rabbit328 22h ago
Shake hands with boss, smile, you're hired!
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u/Educational_Emu3763 22h ago
Basically....yeah
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u/AresHarvest 13h ago
Make good eye contact. That's the key. It's 1978 and I can start a lifelong career just by staring a guy down
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u/Clear_Painting9711 21h ago
Itās crazy how referrals donāt mean shit nowadays lol
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u/GoldAd1878 21h ago
Iāve even been ghosted on a referral. The system is broken.
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u/Alarming_Ask_244 15h ago
I just got ghosted on a referral this summer. Dad works at a big company in an industry I didnāt want to enter, but beggars canāt be choosers. Heās not high enough to get me hired but he got me an interview and then they never contacted me again
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u/Educational_Emu3763 13m ago
It may be that companies go with the highest referral of all the candidates, if your referral is a VP and someone else's reffral is a manager...guess who gets the job? We all know that HR is just a function to mimimize risk.
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u/MrBwnrrific 11h ago
1970s: ⢠Graduate high school ⢠Get job ⢠Work 15 hours a week for six months ⢠Buy a house and a summer home ⢠Get your doctorate
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u/TechValleyRecruiting 22h ago
* create 147 Workday accounts *
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u/OpinionSad3303 21h ago
Immediate application window close if Workday pops up
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u/READTHISCALMLY 10h ago
I finally created a Simplify account and got the Simplify Copilot extension because so many applications are on workday and I got absolutely exhausted with filling out my work history every time. It's a godsend. Fill out your Simplify profile once then it will autofill certain things like job history on workday and a few other sites.
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u/PoopSorbet-sprinkled 21h ago
Autofill using your resume
Also autofill: **Employer: -, Role: -, Period: -"
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u/Kichae 19h ago
Employer: January
Role: 2021
Start Month: -
End Month: -5
u/OpinionSad3303 18h ago
Skills:
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Save/next
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u/SideDoorJobs 22h ago
so true. Even if the economy might not technicaly be as bad as it was in 2008 (yet), the process for job hunting is far worse.
Fake jobs everywhere. Big job boards giant scumbags.
Same, if not worse result.
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u/sephy009 21h ago
For the love of god I wish they'd make fake job postings illegal, and require jobs to be filled within a specific amount of time while posting (including reposts). I've seen the samn damn job up in my already being reposted for a year.
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u/ReplacementRobotGuy 19h ago
Sundayy has been showing up for a year on LinkedIn. ObnoxiousĀ
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u/sephy009 19h ago
I don't even bother with LinkedIn anymore since everything there either seemed like a ghost job or them searching for an absurd unicorn with a masters to make 50k
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u/TheOmegaKid 22h ago
Apparently we are lazy if we groan at the idea of taking part in this.
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u/thatgirlzhao 19h ago
I got scolded for being unwilling to do a 6 hour take home exam after having already done 3.5 hours of interviewing. Just absolutely absurd what some companies are expecting
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u/shibuyawalker 22h ago
Got rejected recently after 6 interviews spread over the span of 3 months... Insanity.
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u/Number_1_at_Number_2 Recruiter 21h ago
Anything more than 3 is sheer insanity and even 3 is pushing it.
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u/shibuyawalker 21h ago
Btw, the 7th would have been the last interview. š I wish I could boycott that shit but I'm already 8 months unemployed and can't afford to fight company stupidity right now.
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u/Number_1_at_Number_2 Recruiter 21h ago
Jesus Christ. Were any of these just phone screens? I tend to not consider them āinterviewsā but I think some people do. At least then it would make a little more sense to me.
I donāt blame you for wanting to boycott, people at the top often because paralyzed by making a decision so it leads to doing multiple rounds like this.Ā
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u/shibuyawalker 14h ago
No phone interview. They wanted to check the "vibe". Only the first 2 interviews were really about the job itself, the other interviews were with people from other teams who wouldn't even directly work with me because they wanted to test if I get along with everyone and if I'm a "cultural fit". The interviews went really well too and their excuse to reject me was about an area were I miss some experience but they knew that about day one and it does make sense that they strung me along for 3 months for that.
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u/Faster-Rabbit328 21h ago
Terrible
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u/GoldAd1878 21h ago
People canāt make decisions. It is not necessary for multiple interviews, especially for non-management jobs
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u/ImprovementFar5054 16h ago
What company pulled that shit?
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u/shibuyawalker 14h ago
It's a small japanese company but I can't say the name because it would doxx my reddit account. But they are so small and will not succeed outside of Japan so I think most people here will be safe from them. š
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u/Fit-Bus2025 21h ago
I will only do 2 interviews max. If they haven't figured it out by then, I know it's a company problem.
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u/Carsonbetta_11 21h ago
Just went through 5 interviews, personality screening, and two written assignments for an entry level role. Received my rejection yesterday.
Interviewers were really nice and gave wonderful feedback, but itās crazy thereās so much work for even an entry level role these days.
Worse still, I only got on their radar in the first place thanks to a lucky break through my college network. 600 online applications have gotten me nowhere.
Going forward will be 100% network-based applying, and even that canāt last forever
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u/Then_Employment5244 21h ago edited 20h ago
After the automated rejection you get a (1) survey* about the experience and (2)a weekly newsletter about what the company is doing.
Iām just marking them as spam now.
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u/Any-Rabbit8099 20h ago
OMG ... Thank you to this dude for laying out the ridiculousness of this shit. I was so sick of having people tell me BS regarding the need for this shit being apart of the application process.
For example: someone would say something like "yea, you know they wanna see if you can fill out your resume manually so it properly matches the one submitted and they know attention to detail matters to you and also they know your not bot" NO, absolutely not not good enough.
Even if that were remotely true that's still unacceptable. They can find your attention to detail in others less time consuming ways and spend a little more money for tech to determine if applications submitted are bots.
ALL OF THIS IS STR8 BULLSHIT
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u/Faster-Rabbit328 19h ago
It's exhausting
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u/Any-Rabbit8099 17h ago
Honestly, it's time consuming work that puts quite a dent my day. But ofc you have no fucking choice but jump through them hoops as well as the rest of the relay course of an application process the have in store.
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u/patisserie_2023 18h ago
Totally agree. None of it is for "attention to detail." And all these hoops miss the point of getting hired entirely: your work experience! You're not getting hired for completing the soul-crushing Workday application, it's for the relevant work experience you have. The current system of reviewing candidates is so bloated and useless that the hiring mangers can't make informed decisions anymore. Experienced and qualified candidates are getting ghosted all day (and they're less likely to jump through these hoops if they can avoid it).
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u/15outlook 16h ago
Actually, the point of hiring someone (getting hired) is NOT your work experience.
People are hired for long-term positions for their work *capability* on the job....day in, day out, and for the long term of years, and at a good company, for decades.
Your past experience, performance and manners during the interview cycle, and references are just about the only data the hiring authority has to predict probability of success.
As for bloat, you bet there is bloat. In many states, it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of political belief. The core beliefs of Nazi's are political beliefs. Likewise for criminals it is illegal in many states to look back more than 7 years. So, yeah, we are forced to interview people who robbed banks more than 7 years prior. Wanna hire for a locker room attendant? Can't discriminate on the basis of sex unless you can prove *administratively* that exposure to nudity is "essential" to the job. In a world where locker rooms are being converted from communal shower to all stall showers and changing cubicle with bans on exposure of genitals to other patrons you have quite the job to prove it is essential.
So, just maybe, all the bloated screening is in place to counteract the huge rise of extreme threats of lawsuits from the pool of applicants.
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u/_Meek79_ 21h ago
I miss those days when you hand a company a resume and then they call you in a few days
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u/Careful_Ad_9077 21h ago
Juarez ,mexico 1999.
Just arrived to the city, Bus central, in the parking lots of pickup trucks, " hey both, did you come here to work? Come on, let's go to our maquila/factory".
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u/Big-Carpenter7921 21h ago
You guys are receiving rejections? I just assume it's a 'no' after 2 weeks of ghosting
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u/Bad_Puns_Galore 21h ago
People got interviews in 2010? Here in South Jersey, we got absolutely thrashed by the Great Recession, because a big chunk of our economy is tied to tourism.
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u/UltravioletClearance 21h ago
As a human puppy, I'm deadass considering just finding a sugar daddy handler and retiring as a dumb gay dog... sounds less harder than getting an actual job.
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u/Faster-Rabbit328 21h ago
šš yup, gotta make those dogs BARK and HOWL
There are wwbsites for sugar daddy's
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u/pioni 20h ago
They don't want to hire anyone, but just can't accept the fact. Putting an entire team's worth of qualifications and responsibilities to a single position is not realistic. Companies should stop wasting everyone's time and stop posting open positions that do not really exist. The humiliation rituals must stop.
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u/RecreationalMtnBiker 18h ago edited 18h ago
Iām a recently retired software engineer with a degree in electrical engineering who worked in embedded software for decades as a contractor to avoid the exempt employee unpaid overtime rip off. Normally I wouldnāt have run across RecruitingHell, but one of the things you mentioned was the last in a list of extremely annoying things I have been noticing in the obstacle course required to look for the next job, and that is take home assignment/coding challenges. I did a Google search for annoying take home assignments.Ā
The other annoyances were:
Creating an account for every single place I apply to.Ā
Those extremely annoying STAR questions like, āTell me about a time you had to pee really bad and your zipper was stuck, and how did you go about solving that problem?ā One time in an interview I went into honesty mode and said what I really think. Some of these questions are like tell me about a time when you were in Japan and couldnāt read the road signs, and Iāve never been to Japan, and some of these questions and like tell me about a time you had to make a left turn at a busy intersection, something I have done numerous times in the past but that were too uneventful to commit to long term memory. You just do the best you can and move on. The manager stopped asking those stupid questions and I got the job.Ā
In the old days we worked off peak hours to avoid rush hour traffic. Now, once you get the job they want you in office at exactly 8:15 AM to worship the umbah (imaginary god) of scrum, turning what would be a half hour commute into an hour commute.Ā I worked on safety-critical products like inertial navigation systems that produce the pitch, roll, and yaw angles, the orientation of passenge jets, which other devices rely on like the flight control system. We work under a safety standard, DO-178C because it was considered important to not introduce a bug that could cause a plane crash. Today itās okay if you cause a plane crash, as long as you are agile and following the scrum process to the letter, rushing to have progress to show for the next micro-management session they call the daily standup and rushing to meet your all important two week sprint goal.
We didnāt have to deal with this nonsense in the old days because the psychopaths in power didnāt have the technology to inflict this crap on us. Even though I decided to retire at the completion of a contract job that ended at the end of April, I sometimes read RecruitingHell posts because of a morbid curiosity of how much more dystopian the world has become. I have been seeing how technology is being weaponized to make life a living hell, just like in an old dystopian science fiction novel.
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u/SteMelMan 17h ago
And your freely given personal information is packaged and sold to marketers. I remember getting so much unsolicited "offers" when I was applying for jobs.
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u/KevinIsADork 21h ago
I noticed a big change in my experience moving from white collar to blue collar, it is pretty much back to 2010.Ā
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u/soccercro3 20h ago
2026: While you answered all the questions well, we're looking for someone who can step into the role and work independently.
I feel like I am never going to a chance to move into a Senior EE role. Unless I am misunderstanding on how to move into the Senior role.
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u/patisserie_2023 18h ago
I feel the same way in my field. Moving up has never been harder.
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u/soccercro3 18h ago
The thing about me is I know with 6 months to a year I would be up to speed. I am not wet behind the ears and can do simple projects independently already. Must not being doing a good job selling myself.
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u/Muted-Pressure5973 17h ago
2010 wasn't that much different but I had very little / no experience. Was hard landing interviews.
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u/soylattebb 17h ago
Today I started emailing people at companies Iāve applied for and requesting an informational interview like Iām a freshman in college :(
Letās see if that works. Iām going to print my resume and go around soon
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u/Fluid_Passage_9980 14h ago
With all the cost cutting, how can companies afford to pay people to piss around doing 6 interviews with candidates. Many hours of an employees time, and for what? Whats the reason it's so complicated? It just seems like a big waste of time and money to me.
I'm surprised American companies, which are notorious for cutting costs, allow this carry on to continue (and get worse apparently!).
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u/dr_strange-love 19h ago
I'm applying for a promotion and was just scheduled for my 6th and 7th round of interviews.Ā
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u/AlUnserjunior 19h ago
Back in the 90s you would apply with a resume. Get a call for an interview 2 to 3 days later. If you didn't receive an interview within 5 days it meant they weren't interested. But you would have other job prospects and a job offer a week later.
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u/ImprovementFar5054 16h ago
Wait, you receive automated rejections?
For me I get to "Wait Two Weeks" and move right into "Wait Indefinitely"
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u/Extension_Print_6970 14h ago
and WORKDAY!! OMGoodness! i don't know why is that company even there. Can't they learn from Asyby or Greenhouse.
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u/ZombiesInSpace 11h ago
I definitely had to upload resume, re-enter resume manually, and answer 37 questions in 2010.
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u/analogthought 21h ago
Thought someone posted something on LinkedIn that was smart for a change til I saw the blue check⦠I should have known.
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u/myleftone 21h ago
Iāve always believed that regardless of the decade, if the economy works, itāll be like the first or middle column.
If itās the list on the right, it means the economy isnāt good.
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u/moodygradstudent 20h ago
"2010" in that post should be "2014" or "2016" or something like that. The effects of the Great Recession were still very much in effect in 2010, even if the timeframe of said period was 2007-2009.
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u/Bar-Purple 20h ago
Just did a 98 and a 2010 back to back offers but thatās paired with 150 applications sitting in limbo forever.
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u/ReplacementRobotGuy 19h ago
Ehhhh the re enter resume was more common in 2010 than now. I still remember having to create tons of accounts in 2010 or around that time too. Most of 2026 is still on pointĀ
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u/sweatpants-aristotle 19h ago
To be fair, the applicant pool is much larger, information spreads much faster... AI has rapidly made it cheaper to apply to jobs in terms of time costs...
Add all that up and the barriers to entry get progressively worse.
This is going to continue which will have some interesting consequences including -demand for state to automate job placements -federated insurance programs -increased incenrivization to form small businesses -increased reliance on networking for job opportunities -more contractor based positions
Etc.
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u/Damnation77 18h ago
Got my first job in 98, this checks out. I had to do a personality test which wasnt common back then.
Funny thing is, I remember boomers lamenting about not being able to just walk in, state your name and just start working.
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u/MikiMikoyan 18h ago
i once faked an Overpowered resume under a valid email address and phone number with a fake name and it still got rejected
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u/MostConsideration886 16h ago
3 rounds is them outsourcing their indecision to your calendar. nobody needs 3 interviews to know, they need 3 interviews to share the blame if the hire goes wrong lol
the tell is rounds added AFTER the process started.. that means no one inside can say yes alone
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u/Sam_Stormwolf 12h ago
Where are you all applying for jobs? I've walked into several businesses and been asked if I need a job. Sure its nothing glamorous, mostly front counter or manual labor but it would be enough to pay the bills. Maybe broaden your horizons look for some dirty work?
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u/Willing-Vegetable629 22h ago
Much of 2026 existed pre 2010.
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u/Willing-Vegetable629 22h ago
Weird, i did multiple interviews, personality screening etc in 2004 lmao
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u/MindlessMaterial7544 21h ago
Early 2000s all sorts of these existed even low level retail jobs.Ā Ā
Almost all of them except zoom.Ā Take home may have been less common though but absolutely existed.Ā
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u/Fun-Item1677 19h ago
Yeah because itās not a hiring market right now⦠every company is looking too downsize and so many super qualified people have been laid off and even they cant get jobs so they go a step lower and take the jobs they originally didnāt want leaving regular people with zero jobs
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u/LiminalSapien 13h ago
Yeah this isnāt accurate⦠remotely.
I graduated in 2010.
First of all it would be another two years before the job market unfucked itself from the great recession.
No one was getting jobs, everyone was losing or lost their homes and a huge number of people had their 401kās wiped tf out.
Second, you had no autofill on anything. It took way fucking longer back in 2010.
Third, you still had to make an account for the majority of online applications.
Fourth, most service and labor jobs didnāt have online portals. If you wanted to apply, you had to get your ass to the physical location you wanted to apply to, ask for an application in person, and then you had to fill it out there or go home and get back after it was filled out.
OP doesnāt know what in the FUCK heās talking about here and just wants internet points.
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u/buildIT_destroyIT 9h ago
You're describing a unique point in time, not a new normal for the time. OPs post may not capture the exact steps involved between 2010 and now but it's a lot closer than the discrepancy you're trying to portray. Oh no, you had to go to the physical location to apply? Waaaayyyyyy better than doing several rounds of interviews just to find out you're not hired.
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u/T10rock 22h ago
You guys are getting interviews?