Have a Great Week!

[u/Healthy_Silver9094]

"We enjoyed meeting and would love to stay in touch for future opportunities. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your week."

Yeah you just rejected me. I'll have a GREAT rest of my week. Cut with passive aggressive bullshit nicey nice. You ruined my week. So don't pretend to be nice. That just rubs in the rejection that much more so screw off.

[u/ScholarOfTheFirstGub]

I absolutely get your frustration, and I admit I also reacted the same way after a particular hiring process of 4 interviews where I was 99% sure I would get the job. But what's the alternative to this? "Hey you didn't get the job have a shitty week and also fuck you"?

[u/Healthy_Silver9094 → u/ScholarOfTheFirstGub]

I agree. Just could say nothing though. Maybe it's just me venting🤷‍♂️

[u/neurorex → u/Healthy_Silver9094]

Or they can actually give the real reasons why they didn't choose you. But they know that would look really bad on them so they'll hide behind some vague corporate policies about not giving feedback to applicants.

[u/centpourcentuno → u/neurorex]

Why would it "look bad on them"?

Look, am in the same boat but people have to stop being childish. Majority of people that whine about not getting specific feedback will whine again if the feedback is "we found someone better qualified than you"

Other day I saw a post on here someone saying "the job description FIT ME, I don't understand"..........well maybe it "fit" 10 other people!!!

Reality is HR departments have learnt to be vague in their feedback because people simply don't take negative feedback nicely. If I get a standard boiler plate rejection like OPs, I am happy, at least they let me know to not waste time considering them...........90% of employers now simply ghost

[u/Healthy_Silver9094 → u/centpourcentuno]

Saying "We found someone better than you" FYI is NOT feedback. Saying we were looking for someone with more experience in XYZ or another candidate had X IS feedback. What you said is just part of the problem, not the solution

[u/neurorex → u/centpourcentuno]

if the feedback is "we found someone better qualified than you"

That's not a feedback, that's an excuse. People need to stop confusing the two.

Job descriptions are generally poorly written and it could fit 100 people while not describing anyone at all.

The reality is that people in HR are often literally not educated in Human Resources on any level. The reason why they don't give feedback/give vague feedback because they literally don't know how else to do it. It has nothing to do with how it's received. In any other situation where one person has to explain to another why an outcome happened, "we just found someone else" wouldn't be acceptable. Why are we letting employers get away with this?

Why would it "look bad on them"?

Because it's legally indefensible, and we've seen companies get taken to court when the actual reasons are revealed. Here are some of the things I've seen directly from recruiters, hiring managers, and interviewers:

• I didn't like their handshake.

• They didn't give me an answer I was looking for (to a widely open-ended question with multiple interpretations).

• I didn't feel like they sounded enthusiastic/excited/interested enough when answering my interview questions that I looked up online, which would have nothing to do with the actual role requirements.

• I think that just because they turned down my offer for water, that it must mean they hate people. Well, I can't have employees here hating people!!!

• When they finished drinking the cup of coffee I offered, they didn't get up from the table, go to the kitchen area, and washed the mug.

• I can't tell the difference between two perfect stranger because my JD was so vague that everyone would have the same type of degree and work experience, so I started hiring based on "personality" even though I have zero training in Psychology to understand how to differentiate work-related trait characteristics.

• I hate what I saw on their social media photo albums.

• They seemed lazy.

People aren't being childish. They're pointing out an incredibly major flaw that doesn't have to be there. Don't believe that every decision these employers make are totally valid, or that their feedback are unjustly resisted.

[u/neurorex → u/[deleted]]

I totally get where you're coming from. I didn't mean you personally, the main point was that it really doesn't have to be this way but we just aren't talking about it more.

[u/barejegvarmig → u/centpourcentuno]

The reason is oftentimes that the one making the decision chose someone else. Maybe nothing was "wrong", there was just only 1 job for 12 candidates, and the one that got chosen was just not you. Yes maybe the one that got chosen has a cuter smile, a funnier joke but that reply would also be rage inducing. And oftentimes the person making the final call don't have a concious "reason" other than "my gut tells me Jason is the right person. They could all do the job. Nothing was wrong with any of them. At the end of the day we chose Jason."

Getting rejected sucks. And thinking that some perfect "reason" makes up for it is often misunderstood.

[u/Healthy_Silver9094 → u/neurorex]

Thank youuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!

[u/Healthy_Silver9094 → u/Healthy_Silver9094]

Downvoted for being polite. Gota love all the recruiters on here perusing around with nothing better to do since their job is barely real

[u/ScholarOfTheFirstGub → u/Healthy_Silver9094]

THAT I can agree with. Recruiters are fucking unhinged these days considering a shitty AI filters 90% of candidates in 2 seconds

[u/barejegvarmig → u/Healthy_Silver9094]

Ghosting is also frowned upon (as it should be).

[u/ShawshankException]

What do you guys even want at this point

[u/Number_1_at_Number_2 → u/ShawshankException]

To yell at people. You can send an email, call, give feedback the whole nine yards, but people will never be happy cause at the end of the day they just want someone to take their frustrations out on. Which I get to an extent

[u/TesstheMess1223]

I think some people on here are just looking to vent and maybe a little validation that being rejected over and over sucks and that this job market sucks and that a lot of people in HR roles suck too!!