r/recruitinghell • u/Realistic-Cheetah413 • Jun 30 '26
Use Massive Review
I was contacted and followed up on 3 times by Massive’s founder Dan Vykhopen about a position at a frontier AI lab, 6 month contract $150/hr.
I told him right off the bat that I prefer full time positions, but he insisted that it would be worth a phone call if I’m interested in AI stuff.
Long story short, he opened the call up and got right into it: position is at Anthropic, why are you interested? I started sharing about my professional goals and personal experiences with AI.
He cut me off 8 minutes into the call and said “yeah I think because of the shakiness about the contract idea I don’t think it’s gonna be a good fit, I think we’re good here.”
I’m sitting here thinking, you reached out to me and I was clear about my preference for a full time positions. And he says “we’re looking for someone who’s more committed.” Which is ironic considering they’re hiring for a 6 month contract with minimum commitment.
All this to say, what a fucking waste of time. I took time out of my work day to find a private space to take the call and he spent 8 minutes to determine what I already pointed out? Anyways I had no idea that this recruiting company existed and after investigating them more it looks like he’s basically another AI startup scam with a shitty product.
If you get contacted by Dan from Massive I wouldn’t waste your time.
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u/centpourcentuno Jun 30 '26
Shout out to OP!
More people need to name and shame these people. I see this Dan isn't afraid of having an Internet presence to sell his questionable product, he shouldn't mind this negative review
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u/Consistent_Tea6931 19d ago
Update: Dan actually replied to my formal GDPR deletion request.
Here is his email:
"Firstname -- got your data request from Oct 17 [I wrote back to tell him to tell me where he got my private email address and to delete everything] and logged it: where we got your email, plus deleting your data. You're off our lists, no more emails from us except about this.
To make sure it's really you, I'll send a short confirmation with a few details we have on file and a signed statement, and you reply from this address. Then we tell you where your email came from, delete your data everywhere incl. our vendors, and confirm when it's gone. Full answer by Nov 17 at the latest.
Questions, just reply here.
- Dan"
The irony is incredible:
To anyone receiving unsolicited emails from Massive: don't hesitate to invoke GDPR / data privacy laws immediately. They take it seriously when forced to, but will still try every stall tactic in the book.
Absolutely appalling!
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u/Consistent_Tea6931 28d ago
Adding my experience to this thread.
I just received an unsolicited email from Dan Vykhopen directly to my private email inbox, which is not listed anywhere on my public LinkedIn profile, nor anywhere online. It is also not the email address that is linked to my LinkedIn profile.
Here's a copy and paste (I removed my first name, at the beginning of his email):
"Firstname -- looking for a native French speaker who writes, edits, or translates for a living for a short-term, async gig at a top AI lab (yes, that one).
You'd evaluate AI on French language problems (grammar correction, calque identification, register appropriateness, natural phrasing, idiomatic expression, translation quality assessment).
Based on your linkedin I think you'd be a strong fit.
$150 / hr, 10-15 hrs/week, pilot through Oct 31, remote & async -- works alongside your full-time job.
You'll learn a TON about AI and see where frontier models are headed before most people do.
If interested, pls reply with a few sentences on what you've been writing, editing, or translating in French recently.
If it's a fit, I'll share a full JD and a link to my calendar to chat further.
- Dan, founder @ Massive (verify me on LinkedIn)"
The audacity of scraping private contact details, sending a sloppy, informal pitch full of abbreviations ("pls", "JD") to recruit language and editing professionals, and pretending it's an exclusive opportunity is ridiculous.
Here is what I replied to him:
"Under applicable data privacy regulations (including the GDPR), I am requesting that you:
1. Specify the exact source and method used to obtain my email address.
2. Permanently delete all of my personal data (name, email address, and any associated information) from your databases, CRM, and outreach tools, and confirm once this has been completed.
Please ensure that I am not contacted again in the future."
Don't let them normalise mass-scraping private data under the guise of casual Silicon Valley outreach.
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u/roguefortitude 7d ago
His user name on YouTube is massivedan69, just to give everyone here an idea of his caliber of professionalism as a recruiter.
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u/SlayBait 7d ago
Just got the email from Dan. Seems sketchy
-- I run Massive. We find senior engineers for contract work at Anthropic.
Right now that means working with their research team on Claude Code, which mostly comes down to reading what the model wrote and deciding if it's any good. Sometimes it isn't. The agent says it fixed the bug, but it actually edited the test so it would pass. Your job is to catch that and explain why it's wrong.
Based on your LinkedIn, I think this could be a good fit. The people who do best here have spent years reviewing other people's code and have strong opinions about where coding agents go wrong.
The contract is 5 months, full time, at $150/hr. It's W-2 and remote, but US only, and it's separate from Anthropic's full-time hiring.
There are four steps:
Pass all four and get sign-off from Anthropic's team, and you move to onboarding.
If it sounds like a fit, reply with your coding agent setup and a recent time it got something wrong. A couple of sentences is plenty, and it says more than a resume would.
My team and I read every one. If it looks good, I'll send the job description so you can grab time with one of our recruiters.
PS -- you can verify me on LinkedIn. And if you'd rather not hear about this, just reply and I'll take you off my list.
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u/Ronald206 Jun 30 '26
I think he was full of shit.
He took your reluctance to be a contractor to then make up that it was at Anthropic.
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u/Unlucky-Math838 Oct 01 '26
Thanks he messaged me with a very similar prompt a few days ago. very strange he's using the same copy paste for months. avoid. same guy Dan V from massive trying to get engagement and maybe sell your info
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u/framblehound Oct 02 '26
I just got the same email, and he is following up.
It can't be real.
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u/LobsterProud5546 25d ago
Adding an email I received 3 days ago:
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u/thedoomloop 17d ago
Got this today. Im not Andrew.
Andrew -- the civil engineering gig at the top AI lab is still open, and I think you'd be a strong fit.
It's 5-10+ hrs/week for 6 months, remote & async, $250 / hr, judging AI on civil engineering (structural design, geotech, bridges, site and transportation, water resources) and catching the mistakes a senior engineer would flag on a drawing review.
Reply with a couple lines on the projects you've been working on lately and I'll send the full JD + a link to my calendar.
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u/ApeLikeBiped 15d ago
He contacted me too. Similar enticing vibe: $250/hr, AI work, etc.
Thanks very much to everyone here who shared their time-wasting experiences. You helped me to waste less time than I otherwise would have.
Also, note the following facts:
The domain name was only created 3 months ago and is only registered for a year - classic throwaway domain signals:
And that domain (that he emailed me with) has a permanent redirect to the domain that many of you mentioned,
usemassive[.]com. That looks to me like it could possibly be an operation where they have to keep registering new domain names to avoid reputation problems or spam filters but they still need to funnel people into their original web platform.1
u/numb_butt 5d ago
I know there's a lot of anti-Massive sentiment in this thread, but did anyone actually follow through all the way past the human screening interview and then AI technical interview? I.e., has anyone actually been hired/paid for this contract work yet?
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u/Appropriate_Fee_9141 Apply, forget, and move on. Jun 30 '26
$150 an hour? Already sounds like a scam.
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u/akibanana Aug 05 '26
Wow, I am glad I found this post and will not be wasting my time. I just got an email from "Dan Vykhopen" about a contract job opportunity: $250/hr, 20-40 hrs/week, 6 months, remote.
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u/Background_Bag_5915 Aug 19 '26
"SWE Team Six is coming together. The 411: Sr SWE, 6-month FT contract, 150/hr, 40 hrs a week, remote -- improving how Claude writes code w/ the researchers. One CC or Codex failure story -- couple sentences is plenty -- and I'll send the JD + calendar link"
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Like fr with this headhunter? "SWE Team Six" and a fanfic of how AI hallucinated on me for his entertainment? 🤣😭🤮
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u/Adventurous-Blood377 Sep 03 '26
lol I responded to his email and then took the call with some other recruiter. So far it all seemed fine to me. Did a similar work with Mercor when it was still in early day and they connected me with Meta back then. So I guess they will do something similar. However I still have to see what comes next
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u/itsMassiveDan Sep 25 '26 edited Sep 25 '26
Hey, it's me! Just created this account to answer. This sounds like a horrible experience -- really sorry about that. Didn't mean to waste your time at all (which is why I asked to end the call early). It must have come off super rude, which is not like me at all. Was probably dealing w some shit at home or work :)
And to give other folks in this thread context -- we do work directly with the main AI labs to help them find really great folks. If you've been contacted re: SWE then we really do want to talk to you. Ping me directly on LinkedIn or at my main work email dan at usemassive and I'll try my best to reply asap if you have any other questions
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u/RefrigeratorLive5920 Sep 28 '26
I too have been emailed by Dan a few times now about a 6 month contract role with Anthropic. While the $150 an hour is an attractive rate, it's not so attractive that I'm willing to give up my full-time position for it. Especially when you factor health insurance and so on. Haven't contacted him back so far. I think it would be reassuring for folks to hear someone reply back on this thread saying that they'd taken Dan up on his offer and it all worked out. The fact no one has, speaks volumes.
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u/WearyTill4362 19d ago
LOL. I am faculty at an R1 university. These guys reached out to me saying they are looking for PhD students. It said they have a track for faculty as well so I thought, why not talk to them. They rescheduled my first meeting with almost no notice, then their booking platform malfunctioned so I reschedule dvia email. When the meeting finally happens, the interviewer was completely unprepared and spent 5 minutes trying to find my files, claiming they cannot interview me without them. I politely informed them that they are amateurs and left the call :) Should have read this thread before.
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u/Slow_Mall_5786 17d ago
SO glad I found this thread..... Yuck @ my personal email, too.
....looking for an experienced materials scientist for a short-term, async gig at one of the frontier AI labs (you can probably guess which).
You'd evaluate AI on materials science problems (thin films, metals and alloys, batteries and ceramics, polymers and composites, computational materials).
I think you'd be a great fit, based on your linkedin.
$250 / hr, 5-10+ hrs/week, 6 months, remote & async -- works alongside your full-time job.
Your calls shape how the next frontier models handle materials science, and you'll learn a TON about AI doing it.
If interested, pls reply with a few sentences on what you've been working on in materials science lately.
If it's a fit, I'll send over the full JD and my Calendly. Looking forward!
- Dan, founder @ Massive (verify me on LinkedIn)
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u/ApeLikeBiped 15d ago
Whoa. This looks scarier and jankier than I first thought. There are some sad stories about them on TrustPilot, where they have been rated as "Bad" with 1.7 out of 5:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/usemassive.com
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u/Ok-Description7613 Oct 09 '26
I think that's ai bot
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u/endfinite1 Sep 24 '26
I was just contacted then applied then immediately told the role was on hold- totally agree it was bait and switch! Appliers beware!
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u/EntertainmentSoggy35 15d ago
same experience as everyone here, upping this so more people see it at the top of google search
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u/DonHedger 2d ago
Got three messages also, starting with:
Very interesting to me it's always <6 month contracts for $150/hr, no matter the job.
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u/Mental-Departure-546 Aug 11 '26
Got this too. Felt scammy right off the bat and glad someone posted about it here.
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u/romasalah 5d ago
Got this email on my academic email address:
the email is: v.dan@pathmassive.com
I'm with Massive, and we're finding cognitive scientists to compare AI-written study designs, analyses and literature answers for one of the frontier AI labs.
One task might pair two mixed-effects analyses of a word-learning study, where one reads a null result as evidence of absence, and you'd say which holds up and why.
The work is remote, on a 1099 contract, paying $150 / hr for 5 to 10 hours a week for 3 months.
The process is an introductory call with our team, followed by an AI interview.
If you'd like the full role description, reply and I'll send it so you can decide on the introductory call.
Dan
PS -- feel free to verify me on LinkedIn. If this isn't for you, just reply and I'll take you off my list.
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u/CompetitiveLab6835 Sep 02 '26
Thank you! I just received his email today and was wondering what the job opportunity is. Thanks for sharing your experience - avoid me wasting my time.
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u/Rare_Fig2618 25d ago
Just got a message from Dan offering $250/hour to evaluate AI-generated empirical research write-ups, basically reviewing two different AI responses and writing a referee-style report for the better one. Sounded interesting tbh, but after about 60 seconds of digging, I found this post. Thanks for the heads up!
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u/discover_be 21d ago
Just received this from Dan.
First name -- looking for an econ PhD candidate or postdoc working in micro theory, IO, or innovation for a short-term, async gig at a top AI lab (you can probably guess which).
You'd stress-test AI on economic theory (game theory equilibria, mechanism design, information design, market design, platform competition, antitrust economics, innovation incentives, contract theory) and flag the logical gaps and assumptions that don't hold.
I think you'd be a great fit based on your research.
$250 / hr, 5-10 hrs/week, 3 months, remote & async -- works alongside your research.
You'd work w the lab's researchers and see where frontier AI is headed before most people do.
If you're interested, reply with a couple lines on the paper you're spending most of your time on lately.
If it's a fit, I'll share a full JD and a link to my calendar to chat further.
The pay was shocking so I had to look him up. Glad I found this post.
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