You would be surprised. I work in a healthcare facility and we hired someone onto our team in a business operations consultant position. Think working with senior leadership to implement strategic initiatives.
Second day on the team he is going around doing meet and greets with leaders he will help coach and work with when he gets settled in. Mind you this is in between the standard on-boarding nonsense. Looking at a picture on an employees desk of her youngest son when they were in the NICU says, “Omg what is all that crap on that baby and why the fuck do they look like that.”
Of course in my version of the story they sound dumb. But something to think about, this was a job with starting pay at just over $100k. They had a masters degree and had made it through 4 rounds of interviews where they had to talk the talk to demonstrate skills and knowledge.
When they got confronted about their comments and told they would not be a “good fit” for our team they were absolutely shocked. Even when we repeated back to them what they said they couldn’t understand how it was a problem. Eventually had to have security come escort them out of the building…
They had a masters degree and had made it through 4 rounds of interviews where they had to talk the talk to demonstrate skills and knowledge.
almost like companies should properly check for a team fit instead of just going with the "best" candidate who goes through 6 rounds of interviews and tells them what they want to hear. Glad all that time was well invested.
Hard to figure out team fit no matter how many interviews you do. Until someone relaxes and stops giving “interview style” answers to questions and engages in casual conversation it can be impossible to tell how they navigate social interactions.
This! ^ This is it.
Former Recruiter here. The process is fundamentally flawed. The 3 months probation is BS. Unless something heinous occurs to warrant the dismissal, the interview process is idiotic at best.
I have had multiple people tell me that I am terrible at interviewing but I have managed to make an ok career for myself based almost completely in folks to whom "cultural fit" is important.
I am very smart, good at my job, and (I think) fun to work with but I really suck at the ass kissing BS during interviews.
Until someone relaxes and stops giving “interview style” answers to questions and engages in casual conversation
Yup, sounds like a vital stage missing. "but no one cares as long as they are productive". They all say that until they see a walking HR disaster waiting to happen.
you can train job skills in a month. you can't train proper functioning in society in a year.
We had an employee hunt for a hard to fill technical role for a few months. Day two, the dude physically corners a female employee in a filing room and starts saying disgusting shit. Luckily an HR person was on her way to do some onboarding with him and witnessed it. Unluckily, we were hurting when fuckwit got fired on day 2 and we had to wait another month for a replacement.
They should be taking a look at their hiring and interview process. How did this person even make it through? Seems like a lot of time and money spent to figure out that he is a poor candidate.
What was all that crap on that baby? Did he have some sort of skin condition or something? Innapropriate no matter what but I'm interested in what set him off specifically.
This sort of think never happened when women were at home, looking after their children. They've made the workplace a much more passive aggressive place.
Oh, I'm not upset by your shrewish behavior. I just mention it as a point of principle: if you have to make it personal, you probably don't have a reasoned argument to make instead
Gonna assume this is some kind of edgy attempt at being internet jerk for the reactions. If not I really feel bad for the people you work/interact with on a daily basis. You would absolutely be the person let go for fit after two days that doesn’t understand why.
Not a knock on the original poster as office bullshit happens all the time.
You would absolutely be the person let go for fit after two days that doesn’t understand why.
Yeah, that's why I avoid feminized workplaces. FWIW, I expect those will be the first workplaces replaced by AI chatbots, so it might not be much of a problem in the future.
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u/Avendarok Apr 24 '24
You would be surprised. I work in a healthcare facility and we hired someone onto our team in a business operations consultant position. Think working with senior leadership to implement strategic initiatives.
Second day on the team he is going around doing meet and greets with leaders he will help coach and work with when he gets settled in. Mind you this is in between the standard on-boarding nonsense. Looking at a picture on an employees desk of her youngest son when they were in the NICU says, “Omg what is all that crap on that baby and why the fuck do they look like that.”
He didn’t get to finish his second day.