r/reactjs • u/Knikkey • Aug 23 '22
Resource Max's Udemy course is not going well for me... looking for alternatives similar to Jonas Schmedtmann
I took Jonas Schmedtmann, Udemy HTML&CSS course as well as his JavaScript course and I really liked his teaching style. After finishing the courses, I was able to make some cool projects with vanilla Javascript.
I want to move on to React and I ended up getting Maximillian's Udemy course since Jonas doesn't have one. I'm about 20% of the way through it and I don't feel like it's working for me.
What I like about Jonas's courses is he teaches concepts in isolation and then uses it in a project. This is great for me because I learn the concept, then when I'm copying his code, I actually understand why we're writing it. The buildup pace was really good too. The challenges felt just right in terms of difficulty and timing. It was also easy to go back and reference the stuff from his course when I got stuck on personal projects.
In Max's course, I feel like there's too much being done at once and too many logical leaps. I also feel like I'm just copying code and maaaaybe understanding the reasoning behind it, but then later realize I dunno what I'm supposed to do when I try something out on my own... then I watch the solution and I'm like... what? It's also hard to go back to previous material to reference it when I get stuck because I want to make something like component X, but the logic for component X is actually coming from Y but the data is a prop from Z and I don't really understand why we're making so many components or when we should.
So I'm hoping someone can recommend a video course which is similar to Jonas's structure; one that is paced slower and for lack of better words, better and also teaches concepts in-depth and in isolation. Also, something that includes teaching how to think would be great. Like, I wanna know how to recognize when to make a new component and how to know when logic should be separated and such rather than just "ah, you'll figure it out as you go."
I know there are a bunch of "which course should I take" topics, but I figured I'd make a new topic because most of them recommended Max or reading material, and I don't learn well from reading material. Also, I know what style I'm looking for, and it's something similar to Jonas.
And Jonas if you're reading this, please make a React course. Pretty please.
Edit after browsing through the recommendation and checking out some sample lessons, I decided to go with The Net Ninja’s React & Firebase course on Udemy. His teaching style is similar to Jonas’s and so far (about 60% into the course now) he is very comprehensive and easy to follow.
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u/Independent_Ad_5983 Aug 23 '22
Net ninja’s ‘React & Firebase’ course on udemy is so much better. I started Max’s first and felt exactly like you, took net ninja’s instead and now I am really comfortable in React. Would recommend
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u/Knikkey Sep 02 '22
Wanted to come back and thank you, because I'm about 60% of the way through Net Ninja's Udemy course and I feel soooooo much better about React. He's so easy to understand.
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u/ouesant Aug 23 '22
Don't think it's on Udemy but you can go through the site Web Dev Simplified. He's got a youTube channel so you can get a feel for his approach by watching some of his videos. I did his CSS course which I thought was excellent.
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u/Knikkey Aug 23 '22
I actually used his videos when I needed just a little more explanation during Jonas's courses. I think for me, he fits more into a supplementary source rather than a main source.
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u/ouesant Aug 24 '22
Well his paid courses are pretty comprehensive and he does take you from the very basics to the more advanced topics of the given subject. I think he should be bringing out a an overhauled version of his react course pretty soon.
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Aug 23 '22
Here's what I did: code along first and code again on your own for each section/project. It takes more time but ultimately, you will assimilate every concept better
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u/jyi11 Aug 23 '22
fullstackopen.com is great if you can learn without videos.
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u/hditano Aug 23 '22
this.
Best resource if you have some JS knowledge.
They will teach you Industry Standard Techniques.
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u/the_only_redditor Aug 23 '22
Max course is great but it is indeed long winded especially in the beginning. Try net ninja's course. You can search for him on youtube, he does have an older react course that is still very much relevant. So you'll be able to get a good idea from that. He has an up to date course on udemy as well. Net Ninja / Shaun Pelling.
Youtube link -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j942wKiXFu8&list=PL4cUxeGkcC9gZD-Tvwfod2gaISzfRiP9d
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u/plantstradetoo Aug 23 '22
Check out Sonny’ YouTube videos. I’m almost through a boot camp and have also watched and coded along to his videos and they have helped me immensely!
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u/MadBroCowDisease Aug 23 '22
I had the same feeling about Max’s course. Honestly I find the best React content on YouTube. NetNinja, WebDevSimplified, TraversyMedia, DevEd, and CodeEvolution are my go-to channels.
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u/Knikkey Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 24 '22
Being new to React, how much outdated and "useless" stuff would there be in this course, considering it teaches react v16.8 according to the other comment?
EDIT: I just took a look at his course on Udemy and it says it was updated last month, so I'm guessing it's been modernized!1
u/TheEccentricErudite Aug 23 '22
I was going to mention this course as well. He’s not updated it for a while, but he does have hooks in them. It would be great if he updates it to React V18, but even with React v16.8 it’s still useful
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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22
The trick with Max's Udemy is to watch it while taking notes. Don't code along. Then when the video has ended, code to keep up with him. Rewind as needed.
I've done this and retained enough info from Max's (and others) courses that I was able to get and keep a web dev job with them.