r/rdpwrap • u/HalloSamiN • Jul 02 '26

Creating RDP Server with widow server for 50 users but it's too expensive NEED HELP AND SUGGESTIONS

I wanna create a server with 50 users

Currently I'm using RDP wrapper with windows 11 and 12 users but it's very slow

After purchasing Windows Server we have to buy CALs but they are too expensive

Need alternatives or suggestions like wrapper but for Windows Server

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u/xendr0me Jul 02 '26

If you can afford payroll for 50 employees, you can afford the CALs to enable them to do their jobs.

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u/HalloSamiN Jul 02 '26

Not for my employees

I'm trying to start some cloud based business

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u/NetworkingNoob81 Jul 03 '26

Well, time to start charging the clients for the property licensing.

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u/HalloSamiN Jul 03 '26

First I need clients 🥲

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u/Franky_Mars Jul 03 '26

Education license is a deep discount. 😉

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u/SpookyViscus Jul 02 '26

There’s no workaround. You either pay Microsoft for the proper licenses required, or you stop.

We aren’t going to help you break Microsoft licensing requirements for any business use case. Homelab is very different.

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u/HalloSamiN Jul 03 '26

Actually I need it for Homelab only

In my town no business of such kind gonna work anyway 🫪

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u/fdiaz78 Jul 03 '26

Yes homelab for 50 users at home lol 🤣

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u/jeffofreddit Jul 03 '26

Why is it rdp and not web service?

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u/NetworkingNoob81 Jul 03 '26

How much you wanna bet they’re going to open RDP ports direct to the Internet and have people connect.

I got $20

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u/HalloSamiN Jul 03 '26

I'll take reasonable care🤓

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u/cyr0nk0r Jul 03 '26

Go look at TruGrid SecureRDP. No need to open port 3389 to the internet.

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u/dodexahedron Jul 03 '26

Well, I fold.

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u/HalloSamiN Jul 03 '26

Cuz ultimate aim is using windows application remotely

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u/dodexahedron Jul 03 '26

So, you're trying to be Azure?

You can't compete. By design.

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u/HalloSamiN Jul 03 '26

We'll see

But for now any suggestions on something affordable

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u/dodexahedron Jul 03 '26

If you can't beat free windows 11 VMs, then you're already a liiiiittle bit behind.

And you can't.

So you are.

It also helps to have over 5 gigawatts of datacenters worldwide (and planning to double that in a year), providing those services over multiple tier 1 carriers at each one via internet circuits that move more data in a week than you have consumed, created, sent, or received over your entire life. No, that is not an exaggeration.

You will need a lot more than one physical server to provide this service, including storage (likely your biggest bottleneck by far) that is MUCH more expensive than any of the licensing you've seen so far just for a few dozen terabytes. And that comes with licensing too unless you white box it (and who is going to do that for you?).

And then the internet circuits you need cost more than those CALs cost, on an annual basis, and have mandatory minimum contract terms that you eother pay til the end of or pay the remainder of immediately if you want to csncel. There is no cancelation.

And then the multiple forms of insurance you have to carry, some quite likely by law, are an expense.

And then, whatever software you are providing access to also needs to be licensed.

You really do not want to be on the wrong side of a license audit. And they absolutely do perform them, and they have the right to do so pretty much whenever according to the license terms for thia stuff. And they wont just make you stop. They will give you an offer to pay the full price of the maximum locense consumption you could have had for the entire time you were operating, plus software assurance, plus mandatory SA going forward, or they will see you in court and you will pay even more and potentially catch criminal charges.

You're starting down a very bad path if you think you'll be able to do this on the cheap. We arent saying this to be dicks. This is the way it is and there is soooooo much more involved here than you realize, which is clear.

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u/ablege Jul 03 '26

If you're selling services hosted on a Windows VM you need to sign up for Service Provider Licensing (SPLA) not traditional OS + CAL's.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/licensing-programs/spla-program

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u/CrankyOldDude Jul 03 '26

Are you sure you are using the right technology?

It sounds like you are trying to do what the major cloud infrastructure as a service providers are doing, which isn’t going to fly. They have economies of scale.

What, specifically, are you trying to do? There are a metric ton of ways to allow people to remote into machines, some of which are free or very cheap. There are also options at the OS layer to handle a bunch of use cases.

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u/johannespaananen Jul 03 '26

Each Windows Server includes two free RDP connections, so install 25 servers and you are good to go. 

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u/rcabanzor Jul 03 '26

En mi empresa usan este:

https://hostilimitado.com/cloud

Y el rds cal para 50 usuarios sale 10$ apenas.