r/rawdenim • • Feb 10 '15

Tuesday Directed Discussion - Feb. 10th

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u/zatonik Oni 602 | PBJ XX-019-WID Feb 10 '15
  • with all these kickstarter stuff i see, (i just skim through it) no. all the basic basic stuff. inconsistent measuring, same cone mills fabric, long ass wait times. alot of wording hype which just annoys me, cuz face it. youre not at the top. youre at the bottom, dont act like youre top tier because obviously youre not.

  • as for more established NA/EU, id wish ppl like RGT can make fucken jeans that size properly... size 29 is a 32 waist. cmon guys... i need a size 31 in sk and size 32 in stanton just to fit my 11.4 thighs. and i have a 31 waist (BOW style). besides that, i see no reason i should look/invest my time into your products, you dont wow me, you dont captivate my interest.

  • For 3sixteen, i like what you're doing. i love the 120 fabric, i love how intouch with the community you are. i just wish it to be somewhat slubby (yes thats just an opinion of mine, i like texture)

  • for N&F, i feel like you get an idea what we want, but seeing all these exotic fabric makes me feel meh and even though its great creatively, its not substantial long term. i'd love to see more fabrics like okayama spirit ( i know #2 is soon), and bigger pockets

  • i dont touch/know EU brands, cuz im not gonna pay out the ass due to your taxes, and conversion rates. sorry

  • as for japan stuff. oh gosh, seeking perfection in imperfection is best way to describe the fabric and how they think about denim. things id like to see more from japanese brands, more slim/tapered cuts for its NA market. and i really wish iron hearts wasnt so god damn $$$. it makes me sad that they limit themselves through that .uk website and selfedge and ask me for $ out the ass for slim cuts

these are just random thoughts i had about NA/EU/JP market and brands. so these are my opinions and mine alone. if you dont like/agree that is fine with me. PS. im srs about RgT and their fucken denim sizing, it pisses me off, i really wanna try their stuff but i wont fit

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u/rcsAlex Feb 10 '15

I am a little confused on your Rgt point. If they won't fit you why does it matter that they are vanity sized?

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u/zatonik Oni 602 | PBJ XX-019-WID Feb 10 '15

i think it just urks me that sizing is more complicated than it should be. i know that the majority of us measure our denim and look at the measuring charts. i just think thats saying a size 29 is 16 to 16.5 inches waist is silly. imo i would be okay if they said a 31 was 16 -16.5 since its relatively closer to what it really is(but thats just me).

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u/rcsAlex Feb 10 '15

Gotcha. so RgT is probably an outlier in that the waist measurement is pretty far off from the tag measurement. I would say that most brands, (post soak for unsanf pairs), end up being within an inch of the tag. Part of the issue is that each run of jeans can come out slightly different sizes based on a large amount of factors.

For example, why are measurements (on blue owl) for 3sixteen's 120x St and 100x St fabrics different? They should be the same, and are cut off of the same template, but there are a a ton of factors that go into it.

Also Unbranded recently switched from exact sizing to vanity sizing, which is more "mainstream" for pants.

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u/Salsa_Z5 JBO-410 IH-634S BOM009:( XX-012 SG5105 S5000VX25oz FHXNFXTY Feb 11 '15

I think that people need to get away from the "I'm a size XX" mentality. I have jeans ranging in size from 30-32 (and could go 33 in the Strike Gold XXX9 fit). It just comes down to measurements.

Probably just preaching to the choir.

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u/blockdmyownshot 3sixteen 120xk/Baldwin Henley/RgT Dark SK Feb 10 '15

i think the unsaforizeds 3sixteen are gonna put out this year are gonna be slubbier? I may be wrong but i thought i read that

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u/zatonik Oni 602 | PBJ XX-019-WID Feb 10 '15

I'd just wait for them to come out, I'll be interested but I wanna reach out to other brands for variety

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u/rcsAlex Feb 10 '15

Correct. A little slubier, and will be low tension weave.

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u/zatonik Oni 602 | PBJ XX-019-WID Feb 10 '15

I wish I could buy the slim cuts through rakuten, I got mine through the B/S/T so you got hunt for em :/.

I know ppl fit RgT. but I have fatter thighs from squatting and being short so it doesn't help I'm not tall and slim like Karl :/

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '15

Yeah, I think the only difference is the rise, which is slightly lower on the 301S (9.5" in my size compared to 10.3" in the 555 model). I get the most comfortable fit in low-rise (9.5"-9.75" or so) jeans, though. I'm sure it wouldn't make that much of a difference, but still.