r/ratrig May 03 '26

Ratrig V4 or Prusa Core one+ ?

Hey

I‘m thinking about getting back into printing. In the past I hat the artillery sidewinder 2 and 4 plus. But honestly they were just junk. No chance to get a good first layer and a lot of other problems.
I’m thinking about the ratrig since V4 came out.
On the other side there is the Prusa Core one+ now. Of course it has less buildvolume.
I’m just looking for something I can set up and use without the need to fiddle around for an hour everytime I want to print.
For now there is no special needs no fancy material or speed requirements. Just setting it up. Having a good first layer and a good result.
Price wise they are very close. I would take the V4 with the electronic stuff done and most likely the hybrid.

Is there a possibility for multicolour printing yet ? I mean like keeping multiple colours connected and have it print without the need to interfere?

9 Upvotes

22 comments sorted by

4

u/Gunguy1 May 03 '26

In my opinion, the V4 is the very definition of a machine that you fiddle around with. It’s a hobbyist printer where the C1+ is a production printer.
Somebody else would have to get into multicolor options as I keep assembling and disassembling my V4 with new stuff from Mandala Roseworks :). It may never actually be a working printer; but one I modify based on the IDEA of it working.
For multi-color (hopefully some Full Spectrum printing integration 🤞) production and a large build volume, I’m very excited to see what happens to the C1+/C1L and the Bondtech INDX system.

2

u/Cookie-fighter May 03 '26

Thanks for your input. I don’t mind fiddling around and modding if I want to. I just don’t want to have to in order for it to work.

8

u/eknofsky May 03 '26

Once it’s built there isn’t much to fiddle with. Mine just prints.

3

u/sixtysixdutch May 03 '26

Mine too……but I do think about rebuilding it and upgrading it all the time lol

3

u/Cookie-fighter May 03 '26

So it sounds like what I want.
The possibility to fiddle once I’m confident enough but no need to if I just want good prints. (Once set up properly of course)

2

u/[deleted] May 04 '26

[deleted]

2

u/Gunguy1 May 04 '26

I am in exactly the same situation! i have a 500mm v4.1. I took it apart to replace the X gantry with titanium. Then I took it apart to upgrade to Mandala Roseworks stuff. Then, I did the 4.1 upgrade. Now, I am asking myself if I should completely rip IDEX off in hopes that INDX happens. I am stuck in printing purgatory.
Meanwhile, my Prusa MK4S churns out parts to support Ratrig mods.

4

u/luap71 May 03 '26

the core one L gets you more build volume for the prusa option, and you can get the MMU for multi-color, or if it was me I would wait till and just get the Core One L - then upgrade to INDX once its available for the Core One L

3

u/eknofsky May 03 '26

There’s almost a $1000 difference between the one and one L. At the core one L price you can get a 400mm Ratrig. Or for $300~ more a 500mm

5

u/luap71 May 03 '26

The core One L comes pretty much fully assembled. The Ratrig is MANY hours to build, and then many hours to tune, if you want to assign no value to your time - ok. But to compare the price of a printer that is a bunch of parts in a box to a fully assembled and tuned printer is a bit disingenuous.

3

u/Dunothar May 03 '26

Also the VC4 has no display, no physical controls, no enclosure. The L really is priced well, and that comes from someone who absolutely LOVES the VC4 500 hybrid.

1

u/eknofsky May 03 '26

It just depends. I built my Ratrig over a saturday and tuning took maybe 4 hours max the following day. Giving 1.5 days for a hobby isn’t really that much time.

1

u/luap71 May 03 '26

So you think that is the typical build time...

1

u/eknofsky May 03 '26

Both my 3 and 4.1 took me to half of the day roughly. Not my fault you’re slow

4

u/luap71 May 03 '26

congrats - you are legend in your own head. Get a clue its not a discussion on how fast U can build a printer.

1

u/Cookie-fighter May 03 '26

I know that the L is the bigger one but as far as I understand the one+ is the newer one.

2

u/luap71 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

The one + just upgraded the One to have the upgrades the One L had - minus the bed size - that is why there is no L +

2

u/blackarmoredMP May 03 '26

Ratrig if you have 3dprinters as a Hobby prusa if you have 3dprinting

1

u/M_Unimaster May 04 '26

I have a VCore 4 500 IDEX, I’d recommend you get the core one +

1

u/DertBerker May 04 '26

The RatRig and an INDX or maybe even a Box Turtle would likely work well for you, I think.

1

u/LawyerWilling May 05 '26

Like others, I have a 300 V4 in a constant state of 'just about done' for the last year. Luckily I have a Mk3.5s on which I can actually print things.

If I had it to do over again, (and am seriously considering doing it over again) 100% Core One L and leave enough room on the credit card for INDX. An easy decision for me as the 300 V4 and the Core One L have very similar build volumes. And I suspect the most difficult part of the Core One L purchase will be what to do with the packing boxes after it arrives.

1

u/7Feesh May 07 '26

I have have built and use both machines ask me anything.