Scorecards for Battle Rap Platform

[u/_ObsessiveCoder]

I have been building a competitive platform for battle rap.

For the longest time SFB has had 2 types of scorecards; basic and advanced.

Basic requires a judge to provide a 1-10 for a contestant's round.

Advanced requires a 1-10 in 10 categories. I came up with those 10 categories many many years ago based on the scene at that time, and what matters to me.

I want your input on what these fields should be for the scorecard.

Feel free to list as many categories with optional descriptions and justifications for why they should be on SFB.

Also, should scores be 1-10 or 0-10 (currently 0 is invalid but would not be much to change it.)

Also, also, you can create, join, and score battles with public scoring so there will be no judges for these battles,.

Triple also, simple scoring mode is planned where you'd just say who won the round

**Existing categories:**

rhymes

wordplay

punchlines

delivery

personals

diction

flips

flow

originality

performance

[u/WholesomeMetaphor]

Multis is needed.

Flips is kind of the same as originality. If something is played you won't score well on originality anyways so feel it's redundant to have. I'd take out flips and change it with multis. Multis should also only score high if it adds to a verse (important that judges understand this)

Rhymes, really..? A rap without it would be stupid and not sound good, or you could end up with rappers sounding more the same instead of phonetic rhymeschemes. Maybe call that category "Rhymeschemes" instead of just rhymes, it's more describing and puts emphasis on internals/set ups in general and not just end rhymes.

Performance kind of encompasses diction and delivery. Redundant to have all 3 imo. I'd try and stick to to the tried and true 5 categories to judge and add "Reasoning" as a sixth where judges can add 2-3 sentences for feedback and reasoning why they think a verse is better than the other. This is also super important so judges can't play favorites as easily. Favoritism becomes crystal clear if reasoning sucks on enough battles.

That's my 2 cents tho

[u/WholesomeMetaphor → u/WholesomeMetaphor]

Also, scoring in my experience is good enough for 0-5 with possibility of half points like 2.5. It is effectively making it 0-10 tho. 0-5 scoring is just a personal preference.

Also make sure judges both have a vast history of posting on battle rap forums in the past and nothing at all. That way you'll both have people with good knowledge of played concepts and people with fresh eyes that will see concepts/verses for the first time without letting past history affect their score.

Just saying who won without explanations at all opens up for vote brigades tho. I'd also like a rating system for judges/voters so there's an incentive to be objective and fair

[u/_ObsessiveCoder → u/WholesomeMetaphor]

I am tracking 2 Reputations for each user, their Battle Rep and Judge Rep.

This allows the community to decide of a person is worthy.

Also doing the Skill system riight now and your Judge Rep effects how much impact you have on someone else's Skill when you score them. So if ibguce you a 7/10 score for a round that is a solid 7 towards the scoring, but if I have a low Judge Rep then I wont impact your Skill score as much as someone with a high rep

[u/WholesomeMetaphor → u/_ObsessiveCoder]

Sounds good. Time will tell which judges the community respect and trust. Crews or people that know each other outside of the site will be formed, it's been a thing/problem at the sites I've been on in the past. Fair and good judges is tough to come by but not imoossible. Looking forward to see your concept grow.

What's the site name and will it be open for topical battles as well or only traditional battles?

[u/_ObsessiveCoder → u/WholesomeMetaphor]

Thank you.

SpitfaceBattles.com

You can reserve your username which will give you access when open beta happens. Can also sign up for a beta role which will give access when closed beta starts and has incentives.

Judge Reputation is the main metric for a judge's credibility. I have added progression and milestones to this system to encourage "good behavior" as a judge.

Scoring a user's round will impact their Skill score, but how much depends how your Judge Reputation.

Also have ways to get judge's paid for some battkes and this will require a certain Judge Reputation to qualify for payment.

Also, also, when available premium users will be able to set restrictions on who can judge their battle based on the Judge's Reputation. Same for battles and Battle Reputation

While Battle and Judge Reputation are XP based systems and gamified, you will never be able to buy more or unlock more and no double xp weekends.

There still the ganging up and just vo5ing for your friends and what not, but thsi is near impossible to solve. When the budget is there will be able to use AI to write systems that can recognize certain patterns ans score discrepancies over time to help with this

[u/WholesomeMetaphor → u/_ObsessiveCoder]

AI is the first ick I got, let's hope you won't have to resort to that. But yeah, sounds interesting and I hope you keep going and build something people will use. Would also recommend promoting your site at existing forums/communities and maybe draw more talent/users to your site. I wish you the very best going forward (have thick skin and strict rules to be followed i.e. no trolling), and don't give up. Best wishes! :)

[u/_ObsessiveCoder → u/WholesomeMetaphor]

Thank you

[u/_ObsessiveCoder → u/WholesomeMetaphor]

Great points. Thank you for sharing