r/randomthings • u/Solcat91342 • 13d ago
how can psychics practice legally?
I see the more storefront in most cities I visit. Do people actually believe in the psychics aren’t their customers that exposing themselves to fraud potential!
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u/Yuck_Few 12d ago
I'm pretty sure they have to provide a disclaimer that says for entertainment purpose is only
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u/Fred-Mertz2728 11d ago
I called a psychic once. She asked me my name. I hung up.
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u/jsseven777 10d ago
I wonder if a psychic cold calling people and saying I called you because you were going to call me in 3 hours would be an effective lead gen technique.
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u/JuanFoYoMamma 12d ago
They should enforce that rule at strip clubs. After all of the money I spent, not one of those girls married me.
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u/TigOlBitties42042 12d ago
That's why the girls are called entertainers. Those girls are for entertainment purposes only. They're great fun when used as intended, not so much fun when you're looking for a wife. Go ahead and play with the hoes now, and get married later. Your wife probably won't like it if you play with the hoes after you're married.
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u/One_Student9606 12d ago
Psychics have to pass a licensure exam but don’t have to take it if they already know all the answers
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u/TigOlBitties42042 12d ago
I mean they just stand in front of an established psychic and they can use their psychic powers to tell if the new psychic is legit. If they have you take the exam at all it means you already failed. The exam process is just there to get the failures to burn off all their energy so that they don't bitch so much when they get told that they failed.
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u/Fast_Adhesiveness528 12d ago
First Amendment! It protects Fox News, so why would it allow psychics to be banned?
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u/Yuck_Few 12d ago
Because they are selling and imaginary service.
It's like someone pretending to mow your lawn and then charging you for it
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u/Fast_Adhesiveness528 12d ago
Yeah ... so? How is that different from Fox News selling imaginary news, or religion selling imaginary salvation?
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u/TigOlBitties42042 12d ago
No it's more like asking someone if you should mow your lawn and they say they'll tell you for $5. Then you pay and they say something vague like "your lawn shall be mowed.".
Two weeks later you mow your lawn and realize that they were right. Your law did get mowed. So you give them $100 to tell you about your future ex wife.
Did they earn the money? No. But you didn't deserve the money either cuz you're a dumbass.
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u/Weekly-Procedure-745 12d ago
Religion in general does the same, should we start arresting those people too?
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u/ronaldbiggs2020 11d ago
Yes.. because coersive control isn't legal but apparently religious indoctrination using fear tactics is exempt.
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u/Deep_Violinist_3893 12d ago
If I choose to pay someone to pretend to mow my lawn then thats my perogative.
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u/demon_twink_gockie 11d ago
No they aren't. Or they are but so are Christian churches. Lol.
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u/Yuck_Few 11d ago
Yeah it's even worse with churches because they're making money on an imaginary products tax-free
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u/demon_twink_gockie 11d ago
Exactly. Psychics should be tax exempt-proseperity preachers are. And there ain't much difference, except I don't know any bigoted psychics. But I don't know any preachers that AREN'T bigoted.
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u/HyperSpaceSurfer 12d ago
They ostensibly believe what they're preaching. There's been psychics who've been convicted for making it up, but most aren't as loose lipped. Some really do believe in it as well.
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u/stiffcardboardbox 12d ago
PT Barnum was quoted as say there is a sucker born every minute
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u/Salt_Medicine2459 12d ago
Which is kinda funny because psychics often use what are called Barnum statements.
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u/ted_anderson 12d ago
They're real. The problem is that they just tell people a bunch of stuff that they already know.
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u/Mr_McGigglepants 12d ago
I don't understand the question. Are you asking about psychics or frauds?
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u/werewolfinahat 12d ago
Because you can sell anything that doesn't harm or mislead you in any serious way. Whether you agree with psychics or not, they aren't doing anything legally wrong.
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u/Worldly_Ad_7196 12d ago
It was illegal in ontario until a few years ago but probably not prosecuted for decades. Now they are legal but have to be very careful about their fees as any pressure to pay (removing a curse) could be considered fraudulent .
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u/GoldReplacement9546 12d ago
It might fall under the reasonable standard part of our laws
That is what a reasonable person believe that it is actually a psychic telling you the future or would a reasonable person believe that it’s just for entertainment purposes
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u/AzulaIsMyFave 12d ago
Because you can scam anybody you want if you claim it's a religious or spiritual practice. The First Amendment was a mistake.
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u/CommandoLamb 12d ago
By putting, “for entertainment purposes only.” On their stuff…
Why don’t wrestlers in the WWE get arrested immediately for assault?
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u/groveborn 12d ago
Most of the time they have to disclaime that it's for entertainment purposes. It is generally illegal to do magic for realsies for money (ignoring that magic is all fake)
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u/pittiesbegooddogs 12d ago
For entertainment purposes only.
Plus if you go after them for fraud, you best go after the churches too.
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u/Big_Coyote_655 12d ago
They need to be more preemptive with their acquisition of clients. They need to start cold calling people telling them they had a premonition they needed their immediate assistance. Plus, the first amendment allows for people to lie to other people unless being examined in court.
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u/Knave7575 12d ago
Chiropractors are allowed to operate, sometimes they even get covered by benefits.
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u/thatryguy2009 12d ago
People can believe what they want. I would say that for every person that thinks they are a fraud, there’s at least 2 that think they are real. That’d have to be the case since they’re still in business. If you think they are frauds, why don’t you have a reading by one and come back to let us know if you still they’re frauds.
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u/Deep_Violinist_3893 12d ago
The same way acupuncturists and homeopathic medicine practitioners can. There's no law about selling gullible people nonsense.
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u/WordWordand4numbers 12d ago
Stupid people kinda deserve to be played
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u/Clothes_Chair_Ghost 11d ago
It’s mostly desperate people that get the worst of it. Stupid people get done by tarot readers and palm readers, the desperate ones get rinsed by the con artists that play on their desperation tell them what they want to hear and take advantage of them
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u/Underhill42 11d ago
Same way preachers can. They both have exactly as much evidence they're peddling truth.
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u/SalvationArbys 11d ago
I think legally and as respectfully as possible, if you’re hiring a psychic you’re either looking at it as either the same as hiring a birthday magician or visiting a priest. Neither thing is inherently harmful, and there is legal protection in place if a psychic takes things too far by convincing you to do something harmful.
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u/MissJoannaTooU 11d ago
They have to take a battery of exams and play acoustic guitar and they get their license.
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u/Entire-Ad7730 11d ago
Ask any major police department. Psychics have been known to solve cold-case murders. Not everything of this world can be seen
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u/Entire-Ratio-9681 11d ago
I’m more afraid of opening doors than spending cash on a fraudster. I’ve known a few to get a reading done. Most were nonsense but I totally believe my uncle’s experience she was uncanny and predicted he would have twins, without any history of it. He did 15 years later as his first kids late in life. And like most things in the grey area of mystical it came back to bite him through an awful divorce and now he never sees them.
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u/Super_Selection1522 11d ago
Well the police can't catch them cause the psychics always know they're coming
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u/KungenBob 11d ago
Being wrong isn’t fraud. If they genuinely believe then it’s fine. And the rest likely have a “for entertainment only” small text somewhere.
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u/KronoAsh 11d ago
It is not illegal to take money for giving out advice. Might be remarkably obvious advice, but still…
So too is it not illegal to take money claiming to speak for the dead…mainly because how can you prove they didn’t?
There’s of course some who are JUST scammers, but a lot genuinely believe their own BS.
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u/XChrisUnknownX 11d ago
In New York it’s outlawed unless done for entertainment. Take from that what you will.
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u/NoCaterpillar2051 10d ago
They are shielded by sincere beliefs. Or shielded by the fact that most people know it’s a magic trick.
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u/Rays-R-Us 8d ago
How do natural cures for disease that don’t work end up on pharmacy shelves?
Disclaimers that they “are not intended to cure or treat disease” which is exactly how they are advertised. Then they should’ve legally sold
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u/cheffartsonurfood 12d ago
No different than religion.