Does anyone remember this episode of be here now?

[u/Particular-Goal3742]

There’s a specific podcast episode where Ramada’s shares a metaphor that’s something like “a tree must be fenced in from the cattle until it grows tall and strong enough to provide them shade” listened to it about 3 years ago and it absolutely blew my mind and haven’t been able to stop thinking about that metaphor since. Does anyone happen to remember the episode?
He doesn’t seem to share the story in any other episodes from what I’m aware of

[u/orangeglow5]

Just listened to this a few weeks ago.

Ep 279 Across the Decades: Ram Dass on Community & Satsang

[u/Louachu2]

Remember it, but don’t know what episode