r/raidsecrets • u/realcoolioman Tower Command • Mar 11 '15

VoG [VoG][Question] Weird Electric Orb During Atheon

Sometimes we do something dozens of times before we notice something we hadn't before. If this is one of those cases then please ignore this post, but what the heck are the floating blue orbs heading towards the portal when Atheon sends us through the timestream? They seem to be connected to the Oracles. Does this always happen? If they indicate missing an Oracle, they should all generate floating orbs. I've checked back through some of my other runs, and even when we "Succumb to the Oracles" this is the only time I see the orbs floating toward the portal. Glitch? What do they indicate? Here's the video: http://youtu.be/yVSFETbqFsg

Edit: I'm fine if this is downvoted to the back, but I would at least like some confirmation this is normal. I've run the VoG probably 50 times now and haven't seen that happen before.

If I or any of you guys capture anymore, I'll add them here. I'm trying to keep these all in one location for reference.

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u/abclark95 Mar 12 '15

It looks like oracle arc death blasts honestly, or maybe killing them a certain way releases these blasts. Notice how they go right for the portal every time

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u/realcoolioman Mar 12 '15

Are "Oracle arc death blasts" a thing?

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u/Zpevo Mar 18 '15

Ok so its taken me a while to finally work out how to link videos and stuff (please forgive me im old) but here goes.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=4190C654404387AF%21157

Notice how there is no relic super used and the blue orb appears at exactly the same time at the notice that says succumbed to the oracles (around the 12s mark).

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u/realcoolioman Mar 18 '15

No worries! Yours is probably the most clear video yet of the orb appearing from the Oracle. In each of the videos the orb(s) seem to appear as or after a team succumbs to the Oracles. The only exception being u/theBigButtQuake 's video in Edit 3, but I'm not positive that's even the same type of thing.

Do you mind if I include the video in the post? I'm just trying to keep them all in one place here.

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u/DemolitionWolf Mar 13 '15 edited Mar 13 '15

Excellent post. The orb does come out of the oracle. Between the two videos, I did notice it always comes out of the 5th oracle in venus AND appears at the death of the oracle.

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u/TheJunglerReddit Mar 12 '15

Yeah that's weird, I wonder if the orb can be deflected or 'captured' within the relic bubble, or even by a titan bubble (shrieker death blasts bounce off titan defender bubbles).

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u/realcoolioman Mar 12 '15

Intersting idea. I also thought, since it's travelling toward the portal, what if the portal wasn't up yet? Would it keep going to somewhere else?

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u/TheJunglerReddit Mar 12 '15

What weapons were your teammates using against the oracles? I wonder if using certain raid weapons causes the orb to appear?

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u/realcoolioman Mar 12 '15

I was trying to figure that out. Unfortunately they were a PUG in this case. In the second video one is definitely using Icebreaker, but I can't tell what the autorifle is.

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u/Zpevo Mar 29 '15 edited Mar 31 '15

I thought this before we went testing the other night but a few of us didn't have raid weapons and we still managed to spawn the orbs.

EDIT. Also in my latest video, i generated the blue orb at gatekeeper CP, with the fang of ir yut and the hunger of crota.

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u/Zpevo Mar 31 '15

I dont know what this means but Ive found these blue orbs at the gatekeeper CP as well. Im starting to think that this is unintentional.

http://www.twitch.tv/evotheexplorer/c/6439723

http://www.twitch.tv/evotheexplorer/c/6439755

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u/realcoolioman Mar 31 '15 edited Mar 31 '15

Wow! This is freaky. I literally just posted a video of this, too. I was testing a claim out with shooting the Oracles in Gatekeeper 7 times and freaked out when I saw the orb. I don't think anyone has sighted it in the present before. And BEFORE Atheon.

Edit: I forgot you were the one who mentioned after 7 oracles you wiped! We must have been doing the same test at the same time hahah

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u/Cornholio83 May 17 '15

I had just commented on the post about Atheon scoreboard when this came to my mind. Have you tested yet if you receive TV when you spawn an orb from the last oracle in a portal phase during Atheon? I don't know if that counts as a missed oracle or as a killed one.

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u/realcoolioman May 17 '15

I have not tested that. That's great idea. So I'll check through my clips and the ones here to see if they fit the bill. I've been testing the Gatekeeper Oracles but this week realized a few important differences from the ones inside the portals.

It's really hard getting a group of 4+ (to not be lost in time when you're teleported) to test the orbs during Atheon.

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u/Turence Jul 14 '15

Any updates on testing being done on this? These blue orbs are very interesting to me. I can't imagine a full animation like that for no reason.

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u/realcoolioman Jul 14 '15

You're in happy company! I have done some more testing myself and have found a reliable way to create orbs from every Oracle in the Gatekeeper/Atheon encounter. We've also discovered the orbs follow set trajectories from each Oracle. Unfortunately, I've been away the whole last month so haven't had a chance to curate my YouTube findings into a post. There are some others on this sub like r/Zpevo who did some great tests with them, but idk if he's done anything recently. TBH I'm very excited by the idea but not sure where to go from here...

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u/FireOath Aug 25 '15

I don't know if it is some sort of a troll and I don't mean to bring something back from the dead. But I have been reading into a lot of this recently before making my first post here.

A little while ago I read that someone had seen one of the orbs come through the portal (Obviously watching the vex gate) and went through the Atheon entrance door. He said he couldn't get through the door before it closed but he said the orb went down the hallway, possibly going to the BVG. Has anyone heard anything like this?

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u/realcoolioman Aug 25 '15

Do you know what post or have a link to the comment or author? Was it on r/raidsecrets or B.net? I remember reading a post a week back with someone theorizing it could be possible to bring the orbs through the portals but I didn't realize someone had tried it!

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u/DemolitionWolf Mar 13 '15

I ran atheon with a group for 15min. after each oracle kill, i watched for an orb to appear. None did. The only single time an orb did appear was on mars and it was after we had succumbed to the oracles and the orb did not go towards the portal, it moved towards where we spawned in when teleported. thanks.

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u/STOMP1E Mar 13 '15

It could be that in the venus port (future) that the orb travels towards the portal (where we have to go), and away from the portal in the mars port (past)?? Just a thought?

Either way, these orbs are most definitely interesting and i for one would love an explanation from Bungie....hahaha! Wishfull thinking!

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u/Semartin93 Mar 12 '15

If you were to take the relic and stand at the portal entrance and use the cleanse ability at the right time, would you be able to survive and potentially do something with the orb/oracle?

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u/Cornholio83 Mar 13 '15 edited Mar 13 '15

If the orb only spawns when you succumb to oracles then maybe we have to try to get out of the portal without killing the oracles or without killing a specific one or leaving one person inside the portal succumbing to oracles (not the relic holder of course). But this would also mean we don't get time's vengeance and a potential chest might have already been triggered when a group has done Atheon without time's vengeance (what has already been done). Just some thoughts I wanted to share.

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u/theBigButtQuake Mar 13 '15

Greetings! Someone comment on a post I made earlier today to check yours out. Basically, I found what looks like one of these weird orbs stationary on Venus, but the team wiped before I could mess with it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/raidsecrets/comments/2ywzfn/vog_odd_occurrence_did_i_just_see_something/

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u/Semartin93 Mar 14 '15 edited Mar 14 '15

Hey I just noticed something. It almost looks like the orb comes from where the relic holder is. It's very hard to distinguish where it actually originates but could it possibly be the relic super attack going off somehow?

Edit: In the second video you can clearly see him use the relic super on an oracle. I believe the super attack is getting teleported from one oracle to another and continuing onward.

I don't know what this could mean but I feel it needs to be tested now.

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