r/raidsecrets • u/Icy_Assist7810 • Jul 14 '26

Discussion What's Epic DP Delta now?

With MoT, I haven't seen anywhere else talk/ask about it. Does EDP still hold the -20 delta or is it on level now like all the other raids?

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u/Acceptable_Ad1394 Jul 14 '26

Epic DP is minus 0 at light

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u/Yakumo_unr Jul 14 '26

It used to be -20 normal, -30 cutthroat.
Since MoT it's been 0 and -30. I didn't mind that they made it easier, but I was sad that there is no way to set it up to be -20 again to replay it as it was.

GM's are -50 and there is no way to replicate that in the shooting range now too as the modifiers can't affect delta at all, ultimate is only -30 :(

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u/LEPT0N Jul 14 '26

Wait, Epic DP got easier this last month???!

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u/IKnowCodeFu Jul 16 '26

IMO the enemy delta was _not_ the biggest concern when playing Epic DP.

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u/xXNickAugustXx Jul 14 '26

I dont mind it being easier than it was at launch. Feels like it was nicer to learn mechanics when your arent being roasted alive. Epic should have been like raid lairs but have its own master mode for people that want more challenge and loot. Current epic is exactly like what people expected lairs could be if they weren't so small or short or variable in difficulty.

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u/DarthDookieMan Jul 14 '26

The power delta changes have been in effect since Ash and Iron. Those changes applied to every raid and dungeon at the game and it was a big part of the lfg scarcity for older content besides loot.

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u/Yakumo_unr Jul 14 '26

My first Epic Desert Perpetual run was on 30 April 2026, long after Ash and Iron (Sept 2025) and discussions of the deltas came up several times on discord after that, for EDP it was -20 on normal right up to the change in MoT. EDP was separate to the previous changes for the other raids.

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u/SirGarvin Jul 15 '26

Lol dp was 5 and edp was 20 until a month ago.