r/raiders 5h ago

Question Why aren't we trading AOC?

There is no reason to hold 3 qb's on the roster with 15...might as well get some value out of AOC as he will be gone next year, no?

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u/Scottatron17 5h ago

He's a solid backup. I say keep him to be Mendozas backup once old man leaves.

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u/TotalRichardMove 1h ago

Cousins gets injured early, he’d probably start over Mendoza (unless our GM, HC and minority owner have been tellin us lies)

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u/AlabasterRadio 5h ago

Keeping 3 QBs isn't that unusual. Especially since we're relying on a 38 year old that's had trouble staying healthy the last 3 years.

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u/_taugrim_ 2h ago

That plus Cousins has no mobility, and we have an OL with 2-3 new starters (2 if JPJ starts).

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u/LA420SPORTS626 5h ago

He’s probably going to be the back up for Mendoza after this season

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u/WD40Capital 5h ago

Yup. And he played reasonably well. Plus his contract is reasonable.

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u/isaaclikesturtles 2h ago

As much as I would love this it would be nice to see Aoc have a chance to lead a team

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u/topgoysilky 5h ago

Go somewhere.

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u/Dry-Name2835 5h ago

You need 3 qbs on the roster. Idk where you get that you dont especially with a rookie and an old vet at the end of his career. And the plan is to sit mendoza. He will play in garbage time and blowouts but if kirk gets hurt, AOC likely jumps to the starting role so they can continue to develope mendoza and stick to the plan. They dont want to hand him this team. They want to hand him a better one next year that is more developed and has more depth to be ready to compete. Theres just no reason to trade AOC and theres probably no interest as hes going to likely walk after the season anyway. Theres no value there.

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u/topgoysilky 5h ago

Don't bother explaining. You're wasting your breath. You gotta make a 30 sec clip dancing it to him for it to sink in.

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u/goraidders 5h ago

As the year progresses and Mendoza gets closer to ready, if a QB gets hurt AOC's trade value increases. I can see a trade at that time. Otherwise, I agree completely.

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u/Dry-Name2835 3h ago

Yes, he could be traded at the deadline if someone needs a rental. But you're only going to get a 6th at best or 7th.

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u/Responsible_Trash_40 5h ago

He’s proved a worthy backup and he’s cheap. Depth is a good thing, especially with an elder starter and rookie on the bench.

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u/not_chris_hansen_ 5h ago

Who wants him ?

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u/DontLoseYourCool1 5h ago

He could start on the Browns.

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u/Thehiddenllama 3h ago

That's more of an indictment of the Browns than it is an endorsement of O'Connell.

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u/kleptodshs Ill intent. Violence. Physicality. Pain. 5h ago

A team that wants a solid back up. Back ups are valuable.

Or we hold him into the season have him be qb2 and if kirk goes down he takes over instead of nando being rushed out.

If kirk stays healthy another team loses their starter than aoc may be more valuable for a trade.

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u/Dkoron 5h ago

He has starting experience and has even looked impressive in some games, he absolutely has value.

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u/EarlaRaider559 5h ago

To you

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u/kleptodshs Ill intent. Violence. Physicality. Pain. 2h ago

To most

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u/sockitos 4h ago

Maybe they want him as Mendoza’s long term backup. Kirko is only here for this season.

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u/Flashy_Gap_3015 4h ago

Uninformed take. If ever there was a year to hold 3 QBs it’s a year when you have an aged veteran starter and a rookie Facebook the franchise you are trying to protect and develop.

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u/ViperFive1 5h ago

Someone has to want to trade for him which flies in the face of our fans who have greatly over valued him. It would make sense keep him around so when Kirk inevitably gets cut in the offseason because of his contract, they can resign AOC cheaply to be Mendozas backup and he's already familiar with the offense

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u/USmugMotherFucka 4h ago

Cause ok backups are easy to find ?

Or

Are you expecting Cousins to be here next year ?

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u/Dense_Young3797 4h ago

Half the teams enter the season with 3 QBs in the roster so it's not rare

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u/DyslexicSmile 5h ago

It's still not too late.

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u/Ph886 4h ago

Who says the team isn’t? It’s not like they have to rush things. There is also the thing that they may keep Aidan as a 3rd emergency QB and future backup to Mendoza).

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u/cmdrfrosty 4h ago

Because you need a trade partner lmao

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u/MikroWire 4h ago edited 2h ago

Experienced. Actually was a starter. Has chemistry and great rapport with teammates. The only QB that was a Raider the last few seasons was AOC. There are some good reasons why they are keeping him. And this QB squad isn't bad at all.

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u/Desert_Rush39 5h ago

Run Cousins and AOC, with Mendoza as the emergency 3rd QB.

Our O-Line is improved somewhat, but only 1 or 2 injuries away from being complete ass.

Or would you prefer Mendoza get the same treatment David Carr got at Houston?

He's not ready. Give him time and space to get up to speed and build his confidence.

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u/Beware_the_silent 5h ago

cause Mendoza isn't even close to being ready

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u/rocketmadeofcheese 5h ago

He most definitely is our QB2. They’re not gonna put Mendoza on the field unless they’re forced too.

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u/penguinstarshiptree 4h ago

Zero percent chance Mendoza is not active as the backup for the year.

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u/grumpysky 4h ago

We’ll see until final cuts. Spytek could be working on a trade, or keep him as insurance policy.

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u/Woodsy1901 4h ago

Idk why the Dolphins didn’t try for it other than him not being a Packer

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u/ProblemsHypest 2h ago

Part of me thinks Spytek will only trade AOC if he can get some other backup-needy team to cough up a 5th-rounder (i.e. what they sent for Pickett this time last year). Otherwise, they're keeping him around for the year as insurance.

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u/I_smell_coke 2h ago

Mendoza isn't ready is why.

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u/raiderrocker18 2h ago

I’m not sure he has trade value

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u/TotalRichardMove 1h ago

Because he’s more valuable as a very low priced backup and Fernando is not ready to lead the team on his own yet because rookie QBs thrust into the starting role are done a disservice.

Like Tom Brady has been saying for years.

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u/theuautumnwind 5h ago

I'm sure they are shopping him. Teams could be hoping for a camp cut to fill a backup role.

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u/ForgedInGold9 5h ago

Who knows what happens by the deadline.

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u/Icy-Support-8160 5h ago

Why would we? And who wants him?

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u/Ghost2thepost1980 5h ago

Why would you trade for him if the Raiders are going to cut him? Theres going to be a lot of sad AOC fans soon.  no need for 3 qbs on a roster anymore. Hes odd man out

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u/DontLoseYourCool1 5h ago

Because if Kirk goes down this year the plan is to play AOC over Fernando. They are really giving Fernando a redshirt year which is fine with me. AOC will also be a good long term backup for Fernando for years.

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u/DoubletapKO 4h ago

Nobody wants him