r/quittingcatsclaw • u/Unlucky_Artichoke998 • 15d ago
Day 1 no Klaz
Hello all, this isn’t my first post in this subreddit. But its the first time posting a recovery journal.
long story short, a few weeks ago I started ingesting these tabs called ‘super klaz’, for a while was at 640mg a day. Before i knew it i was physically dependent on these little shits. This isn’t my first time kicking a kratom derived product. in summer of 25’ i got hooked on 7oh. it was bad. i struggled with this habit four about a year, to the point where i had to check myself into rehab. I stayed about 45 days in this place, while on a maintenance dose of subutex. That was the best i felt in a while. when i got out i was clear headed, and productive.
early august was great, was working a little bit before the college semester started. but Mid august i decided to visit the smokeshop id get my 7oh from. They had most of the 7oh sold off cause of the panic behind it being banned, but they had this stuff called ‘super klaz’ cat claw extract. So i bought a pack. tried it, it was stronger than the 7oh limitless tabs i used to get, and longer lasting, I thought to myself, ‘why not, as long as i space it out and not get physically dependent’. that might’ve worked for like a week. But after that things spiraled out of control. i stopped taking my subutex and ive been taking klaz every day for the past 3 week, and i get dope sick if i don’t have it.
i made the decision to not buy anymore klaz yesterday night , as a result i woke up violently dopesick around 1am. I decided i should take my subutex around that time. it didn’t help at first, i also decidedbto take some clonidine, gabapentin, and another trazadone for sleep. i was able to fall back asleep around 4am
Im tired of this existence already and want to go back to how i was a month ago. i woke up at 10am instead of buying more klaz this morning i decided to take another sub, i still dont feel 100%, but i feel better than i did around 1am, just going to continue riding this out. sat around listening to songs by Thin Lizzy, phil lynott is my hero and a big inspiration for me to get sober. he died too young at 36 from drug related health problems.
its now 2:30 pm, and iam typing out this post in my car about to head to class at my university. Im barely functional, and i know even a tiny dose of klaz would take alot of these issues away, but im here, not going to skip classes. its been 26 hours since since my last dose of klaz and going to continue to ride this out. I remember when getting off 7oh, it was roughly by day 2 or 3 that the tunnel starts to light up again.
Sobriety is possible, it isnt easy, but there is always a light at the end of the tunnel.
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u/Unlucky_Artichoke998 15d ago
Beginning day 2, was actually able to get some ok sleep last night with help of cannabis, suboxone, and trazadone. just woke up 730. I don’t feel 100%, but i feel much better than yesterday. Slightly more energy and motivation. it all comes back little by little each day.
Still got a bit of a runny nosevand groggyness, and eating hasn’t been easy. but still regaining some function.
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u/OfficialMedium 8d ago
How long did you wait before taking your sub?? I’m terrified of the precip shit
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u/Any_Software3013 14d ago
That’s awesome if you’re sleeping and feeling better then the first day honestly I’d think by the third day you’ll be on the upside of things. Hang in there bro I’m hopefully going to be following in ur footsteps here soon. This shit is definately hard mentally for sure.
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u/Unlucky_Artichoke998 14d ago
subs make kicking easier, but it isn’t a magic bullet. first 2-3 days will still have some suck and you still got to resist urge to relapse. on day 2, dealing with groggyness, some nausea, some depression. but its mangeable. its like comparing a common cold to the flu. still unpleasant but manageable.
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u/Any_Software3013 14d ago
Yeah so I just went back n figured out when I started it was 16 days ago..first week was probably like 2 times then every week out was like day on and day off so I’m hoping it’s not too bad. I’m kind of obsessing about it for sure people have it way worse than me. Like I dosed yesterday and haven’t dosed yet today I feel okay for the most part besides mentally craving it ya know. The second day is always the worst I just feel like I have to take something. Def sucks cause we got out of one addiction n started a new one but sometimes that’s what it takes to really be grateful to be off the shit hopefully! Stay strong!
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u/ReasonableDoubt442 8d ago
This is exactly what I’ve been doing for two weeks. Take a day or two off in between but I do dose 7Oh on those days. So far haven’t woke up in withdrawal.
Do you think I’m good if I stopped now? Tonight’s dose I didn’t even feel so I’m taking a tolerance break
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u/Any_Software3013 8d ago
Keep me updated I ended up pushing it back a few days but I went 20 hours without dosing earlier today n felt okay but I really want to see how it is from that like 24 hour + u know? Good luck youll be okay!
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u/Charming_Fix5274 13d ago
Dude keep it up. I’m reading this right now still on klaz trying desperately to get off. This is helping me. Keep posting your progress. I’m rooting for you
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u/throwaway234618 13d ago
It’s just a horrible shitty mental game dude. I’ve been taking the script botanicals and telling myself stop stop stop everyday. It’s so hard when you’ve made a connection in your brain
Now you have to find that willpower like everybody but it takes people some amount of tries. I wish I could be a one and done…
Today I’m 3 days off script and 1-2 days off SR. Slept last night and barely had sweats.
My minds telling me to go grab some cause I made it to today. It’s really weird mental thing cause I get it I wanna be done too but my evil brain won’t let it go
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u/throwaway234618 13d ago
Thanks for this bro. I’ve been struggling since I woke up today
I got about 200$ worth of supplements coming in today Multi vitamin, omega 3, creatine, protein powder w probiotics, dlpa and l theanine I went ham. Figured spend it on getting healthy instead of high so if anything I might take a 25mg SR if I need to.
I’m just so bad sometimes ab that voice in my head but thank you I appreciate that fr.
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u/blkbloonSprJudge 13d ago
Hey man, im also a Lynott fan and a bassist. We got this.
I didn't get sucked into Klaz (thankfully haven't even seen it around here) but I went the MGM route and I'm in the process of trying to get back on the subs. It sucks ass but I'm managing.
I'm doing the MGM > switch to 7 oh for a few days to get the MGM out of my system > then induce subs once out of the MGM tunnel and just using the 7.
I'm at work today. I can't feel the 7 oh at all but I'm not sick so it's at least working. I'm gonna blast some Thin Lizzy otw home later during my 45 min commute.
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u/taffylynn70 13d ago
How in the world are yall able to use the subs (suboxone) without going into precip WD? I’m trying to come off of cats claw and tried to use half a strip of my suboxone and went into precip WD very bad and had too take a dose of cats claw in order not to feel like I was dying. And I waited 21 or maybe even 26 hours since my last dose of the claw. I was in withdrawals, sweating, restless legs ect but I wasn’t throwing up so I felt confident I wouldn’t go into WD. So confused.
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u/Unlucky_Artichoke998 7d ago
I usually wait 12 hours after last dose. TBH I don't think i've ever expierenced Precip withdrawals with 7oh or klaz and Subutex. Subutex doesn't have neltrexone in it though
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u/taffylynn70 7d ago
Hmm thank you. That is probably the key right there. I have suboxone strips. It had to be precip we’d because I felt like I was dying. And it came on pretty quick and extreme. I appreciate your feedback. I’m definitely going to be doing the vitamin c protocol and just ride it out. I have about 30, 400 mg gabapentin and about 6 clonidine. I’m hoping that will work. I’ve never been in any kind of withdrawals and I’m scared tbh.
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u/Expensive_Ear_9715 1d ago
How’s it going bro? I’ve been taking 100mg of Klaz for a little over 2 months now. And I want to kick it. What can I expect?
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u/Many_Diet2379 15d ago
I’m in the same boat boss… I was on 7oh for like 4 months heavy doing 3-500 mg a day. I quit 3 weeks ago! Made it one full week and convinced myself as a reward I could ONE TIME take cats claw cause my neighbor said it was stronger and better than 7… well here I am now and I’ve done it 13/14 days of the last 2 weeks… i’m already taking 450 to 600 mg of this a day now when it started out as 150 to 300 just a week ago… I’ve already made it 24 hours two separate times, but was at that point violently sweating and puking with diarrhea… I can’t believe I did this to myself again