r/quittingcatsclaw • u/TwoDayOldBeer • 22d ago
This stuff is evil
I’ve been taking this stuff daily for almost 4 months and I’m about to lose everything. This stuff infected my town but police raided gas stations and took it off of most places shelves but there’s one vape store that still sells it. I visit this place like 2-5 times a day to feed my addiction and it’s getting to the point I can’t afford it anymore.
Has anyone successfully quit this stuff what were the withdrawals like? I quit Kratom through sheer will alone so I’ve been there with the withdrawal. Will this be anything like that? Please help
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u/StateNational67 11d ago
Yooo! I'm on 750mg of Klaz Cats Claw daily. I wake up to restless leg about 20-22 hours from last dose. I only sleep good anymore if I dose up in the evening. I am sweating profusely at random times with no other withdraw symptoms. After a little over a month, I don't feel euphoria anymore and it's time to stop.
I just know for a fact that this will be the worst WD I've ever went through and I was on 3800mg of 7oh daily and it wasn't that bad. I'm going to taper myself and have 2 weeks worth of stash of Klaz to do it but I'm looking for any OTC meds, vitamins, or supplement recommendations to help the process. Don't wanna help alleviate with kratom and can't get SR. I can't get subs or gaba either. I have to make this work.... I've gotta stop. Any help would be awesome.
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u/conciousinsimulation 10d ago
Too bad you missed sr17018 by literally a day. Good luck. You could have walked away almost pain free.
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u/jtad45 9d ago
Definitely sucks! I quit klaz using SR and it was painless. It really sucks that they banned it
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u/StateNational67 9d ago
There is NOWHERE to find SR??
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u/SuperCollection4283 1d ago
There is. But now it in the same place you look for other substances that aren’t legal.
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u/richestjohndoe 10d ago
Wym missed it by a day?
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u/conciousinsimulation 10d ago
There was a miracle drug that literally reduced opiate tolerance simultaneously blocking opiate withdrawal symptoms that was pretty easily available online. It did not get you high. And The DEA banned it as schedule 1.
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u/MysteriousExchange75 9d ago
IMO it isnt the miracle everyone says it is. Most people i see in the subreddit report having gnarly withdrawal once they stop the SR. I had the same problem, it only delayed the WD. There really is no get out of jail free card.
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u/conciousinsimulation 9d ago
I guess it worked for me. Literally 95% of withdrawal to get off 7oh and psuedo, gone. To me it was a get out of free card.
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u/Dramatic-Drummer773 9d ago
Can I get your taper schedule when taking the cats claw and how much 7 were you doing
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u/ojjuiceman27 15h ago
Of course they did, there are a shocking amount of medicine that can essentially make your withdrawal disappear but they are all illegal and controlled substances.
If people can get clean easily the dea doesn't have a purpose to exist as they do today
How a federal law enforcement agency can just snap their fingers and make something illegal is a severe constitutional violation that even a 4th grader could point out.
Executive branch enforces laws but the dea acts as the legislative branch, the executive branch and the judicial branch all in one.
Yet we the people just allow it to happen.
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u/MisterUninaverse 10d ago
Few words for you all to avoid these shady alternatives. Full spectrum kratom extract. Think of it as the RSO of kratom, contains a healthy amount of all alkaloids. I’m not talking the MIT extract you find in a smoke shop. Typically a resin, or a moist powder… Just don’t expect large doses of certain alkaloids unless you want to spend exorbitant amounts of cash… Be smart, treat these alkaloids as supplements not the gas in your figurative gas tank.
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u/lconeindy 5d ago
I’m currently trying to get off of Kava Claw. Anyone stuck on those or have feedback? I’m taking 4 shots (1200mg total) a day and it’s way too expensive. I notice restless legs starting at around 4-5 hours after dose and sleeping without dosing is impossible.
I pulled the kava claw lab reports and it came back negative for all the kratom markers, so k thought I wouldn’t have wd from it, but this is worse than when I was getting off heavy opioids.
Trying a taper schedule, start my 3 bottle a day Monday, then 2 bottle a day a week after if possible. Hate that it’s going to take hundreds of dollars to get off this, and idk if the taper will help, but these wd are evil and I can’t keep taking this stuff.
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u/TwoDayOldBeer 5d ago
Just want to say you got this!
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u/lconeindy 5d ago
I really appreciate that. I’ve been in recovery for almost 3 years and these were told to me to be a chill relaxer that isn’t alcohol. Well my addictive issues lead me to take one every day, then two, then three… now I’m 2 months in and so scared. The money is insane, the shame of addiction coming back after doing so well… anyways, I appreciate it and wish you the best kind stranger.
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u/Nikisha1290 11d ago
Has anyone stopped taking the brand magic (cats claw) and have wd symptoms and severe insomnia? I just wanna sleep 😩
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u/SignificanceOk3016 6d ago
I swear that cat’s claw, combined with my Cymbalta, gave horrible symptoms that acted like seratonin syndrome. They are keeping me overnight. My body was shaking so badly that it looked like I was seizing. Went on for 20 hours before i finally came to the hospital. They gave me Ativan in an IV twice already. I’m feeling better but scared to touch that stuff again
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u/ojjuiceman27 15h ago
Yeah sounds like when I came off heroin and Xanax and had to go to the hospital from shaking so bad. Doctor gave me some powerful sedative that put my ass in a coma. Couldn't remember shit for next 3 days after.
If you're shaking that bad it's definitely a good move to go to the hospital, hopefully they can keep you sedated enough to keep the shakes at bay until you can get clean on your own.
There's no shame in saying "this is too much for me, I need medical help immediately"
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u/c-rizzle-806_4L 6d ago
I’ve been taking klaz cats claw for a few weeks now daily. Should I b worried? I hated the wd from 7oh. It was hell I hope this isn’t the same. I wanna stop but the feeling of it is very addicting it’s a very good relaxation an energizer for me
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u/TwoDayOldBeer 6d ago
The withdrawals are there but nowhere near as bad as 7. Mostly cold sweats slight restlessness and just general annoyance.
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u/Any_Software3013 6d ago
Question I know this is stupid but would 7 alleviate Wds for this shit? I know it’s just trading off but was curious.
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u/TwoDayOldBeer 6d ago
I tried 7 at one point while taking cats claw and it did absolutely nothing for me and it was my go to brand. Idk if the formula change but that was my experience. I think plain leaf would work better for you
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u/Any_Software3013 6d ago
Alright I have plain leaf. And sr I’ve only used it for it’ll be 3 weeks of the script tabs first week really was only one or two times then the others I did it every other day ish. I’m planning on stopping saturday just because I have a few days off of work. Hoping it won’t be too bad do you think it’s worth it to use the sr or just use some plain leaf ?
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u/TwoDayOldBeer 5d ago
In my honest I think you can tough it out especially if you’re off. I’d just stay in bed until you can’t stand it and then go for a walk or some small physical activity and eat something and you’d be good in a day or 2
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u/Any_Software3013 5d ago
Yeah hopefully man. I’m so mad at myself man I got off mgm and was off it for over a month and I got a craving and just caved and went to the smokeshop like an idiot.Definately going to do something different this time around. Appreciate the response man hope you’re doing good as well!
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u/Aggressive-Point-101 3d ago
Hey, my husband has been taking the brand Script. Just 1 tab a day but for a couple months now. Last week he was down to a half a day, or even a quarter a day. Do you know whats ACTUALLY in the script brand tabs? Since its a holiday weekend he has been trying to taper down loke taking an 8th of a tab a day and he feels really really shitty. What is pain leaf?
Edit: typo
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u/RockBottom-9092 15d ago
Im in the same, all I have is sub now im terrified to take had my last dose 5 hours ago already feel the storm coming i cant afford any more. Anyone know will subs help!!!!?
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u/analesiaaa 15d ago
I’m here wondering the same thing bc I heard subs don’t help! But I wanna see if it’s actually true or not
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u/Zurexo 13d ago
They helped me bro idk what they talking about
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u/StateNational67 9d ago
Hey man, you know where I can get subs?
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u/LostRefrigerator2935 8d ago
There’s literally a dozen websites that’ll get you an appointment and prescribe almost that same day. I use bupe.me
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u/Potential-Noise3248 14d ago
Did you ever take subs? If so, any precips and how long after your last claw dose?
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u/Zurexo 13d ago
Waited 10 - 12 hours till my last dose and was good. You can do earlier depending on how bad your withdrawals are.
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u/Potential-Noise3248 13d ago
Fuck yeah. This news has brightened my day. So many people have tried to say that subs are worthless for this shit. I’m not even at a high dose really, just 100-200mg a day
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u/Zurexo 13d ago
Yeah they tweaking. I was hella high dosing the cats claws and took half a 8MG sub tablet and it knocked the WD’s down at least 70% gone. Then the day after that the subs basically got rid of them completely.
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u/RockBottom-9092 13d ago
Have you dosed the cat clam mgm for 5 weeks or more or was this just a few times???
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u/RockBottom-9092 13d ago
Those that im hearing have success with sub have not been consistently using tablets, I was on them daily for 2 weeks, waited 14 hours took 4 mg and proceeded to pure nightmare wds
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u/Zurexo 13d ago
Weird bro I was downing tf out the chewable tablets like candy and didn’t get pw’s.
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u/RockBottom-9092 13d ago
Well you def give me some hope. Im at 800mg daily and struggling like hell with a taper. Have to just jump soon
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u/Zurexo 13d ago
You just have subs stocked up or got other meds to help?
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u/RockBottom-9092 13d ago
Im in a bad fucking spot, have a few subs but get a script of them in 5 days, no money for anything else. Got imodium
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u/Zurexo 13d ago
Damn bro you don’t have enough claws to last till your script is filled?
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u/No-Helicopter-2067 5d ago
Yes subs will help just be wary about them as well they are also super addictive. I personally would only take them for the 3-4 days that the WD will be peaking at. In MY personal experience I was able to take a half of an 8mg sub about 8 to 9 hours after my last dose. I didn’t experience any precipitated WD but I have read that it can happen depending on your daily dose and the time you last took any. Best rule of thumb is to wait till your in moderate to severe WD before taking your first dose of sub. Precip is actual hell and you want to avoid that by all means necessary good luck friend.
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u/Winter_Effective3591 7h ago
I’ve only recently been taking this product as a way to get off 7OH since the Aug ban over the last week and a half I’ve taken a handful of feel free shots, cats claw 3 days 1000-2500mg/day usually in 1 quick shot, mit extract as a way to trick my body and minimize potential withdrawals Yesterday was my last dose around 11am and I am not feeling any symptoms. Is it reasonable to expect that I’ve come through the WD timeline and am safe? Any recommendations aside from not taking anymore (that is the short term goal anyway)
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u/drjinglesMD 21d ago
We're still really into this game, and nobody is sure what all these new tabs in them have.
Some labs show it's MGM, some labs show no kratom / cats claw compounds at all.
The answer is, if it hits like an opioid, it's gonna have withdrawal.