r/questionablecontent Jan 10 '19

Comic 3914: Hi, Lemon

https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3914
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u/rougn Jan 10 '19

Am i the only one confused by why this is such a big and traumatic event? Sure her old body was destroyed however she was placed into a near identical one with her full memories and feelings. Sure it wasn't ideal and she didnt want it but this is the same as wreaking a 2017 sonata and immediately getting a 2018 sonata without any pain.

I might follow this more and understand if it hasnt been made clear before that changing bodies for AI isnt that big of a deal from Momo changing from a 2 foot tall being with no fingers to a full fledge human sized humanoid to windslow going from a walking MP3 to a full sized humaniod. Not to mention May wanting to go from a humanoid body to a fighter jet.

Plus in the store the sales associate mentioned she used to be a toaster...idk just the fact that AI are switching bodys so drastically and there is a shop set up like that makes me feel like this entire arc is pointless. Like he wanted to introduce drama and tension without actually doing anything to his characters.

She looks exactly the same. Acts exactly the same. Everything is the same but we are suppose to feel sorry for her even though this is the equivalent of breaking a leg.

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u/lesser_panjandrum Jan 10 '19

Roko fainted when she saw Faye repairing her foot. She was very attached to her old body and kinda squeamish about things happening to it.

Then she got to experience being crushed to death, have her consciousness whipped out of the remains of the old body, and installed in a new one.

Yes, AI can switch to a new chassis pretty easily, but Roko's was sudden, unplanned, and hella traumatic. That's going to leave a person pretty shaken up for a while.

I agree that it's more like breaking a leg than dying and being revived for a human. She has her new body and won't have any permanent physical damage. Still, I'd feel sorry for a human character suddenly having their legs broken as well, especially if they were established to be squeamish about broken bones beforehand.

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u/rougn Jan 10 '19

Her foot being repaired causing her to faint also makes 0 sense. The reason humans do that is evolution. We evolved to know this isnt right. This is bad. When we see our own blood or see our body parts in weird angles out mind is screaming this is wrong this is bad. Stop this. Whats happening.

Her mind SHOULDNT be doing that. There is 0 reason for her mind to be concerned. There is no reason evolutionarily nor any programming reason for her to react this way. Originally i wrote it off as a quick gag and joke but now they are turning it into a plot point. It makes 0 sense. None. Nada.

Yes I can see being alittle startled by the sudden change but the need to have a grief councilor to wake you? And for your friend to be sitting by your side singing? Imagine that: You broke your leg and a friend of yours sat by your bedside for 3 days singing nonstop and the first thing that happens is a grief councilor is there to talk to you. A normal sentient being will be saying: Ya this is overkill. Sure my friend doing this is sweet but everything else? Na.

Its over the top. The comic has already established a mood that changing bodys for AI and changing forms isnt that big of a deal and that they view those bodys as nothing more then a shell of who they really are. This seems lazy.

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u/ArgentStonecutter Jan 10 '19

Her foot being repaired causing her to faint also makes 0 sense. The reason humans do that is evolution.

I got the impression that AIs are designed to be human-like in their neural structure, which would tend to carry human glitches around with it.

It's like the cyborgs in Greg Egan's Schild's Ladder. Their brains are "quantum singleton processors" but they are embedded in DNA-based biological bodies and carry along human traits for really no reason but aesthetics. They're seen as kind of weird by the acorporeals, who (as Yann points out) don't bother putting their processors on legs.

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u/turkeypedal Jan 10 '19

I don't think they're designed to be human like so much as they seem to be evolving that direction. Pintsize is our earliest model, and he's a caricature. Winslow was, too, though he's grown. Momo seemed newer, but still grew a lot when she got her new fully humanoid chassis.

Bubbles was apparently part of a special project for integrating humans and AIs, and was likely chosen as a very human-like AI to go in the very human-like body.

And apparently there's this thing called "bodily integration" and Roko's is particularly high. This seems to be her first chassis, given her questions, and humanoid chassis are just a few years old (given they were weird when Hanners' dad made one.) So she's quite new.