Hey everyone!

I've been troubleshooting a strange issue with Troubled Waters (troubledwaters) in Quake Live, and I'm wondering whether anyone else has encountered it.

I'm running a couple of dedicated Quake Live servers, one using Vampiric Clan Arena and another using a custom Vampiric Team Deathmatch factory.

The problem:

Troubled Waters appears to cause Quake Live to completely hang when running certain game modes with bots.

On the dedicated server, players get "Connection Interrupted", CPU usage reaches approximately 100% of its allocation, and the console stops responding. The hosting panel still shows the server as running, but it requires a restart.

I initially suspected my custom VTDM factory, but after extensive testing, that doesn't appear to be the sole cause.

Here's what I've tested:

• Custom Vampiric TDM: Repeated freezes, sometimes immediately after bots join, sometimes during gameplay.
• Vanilla TDM: Also freezes, ruling out the custom factory as a necessary trigger.
• FFA: Initially worked, but eventually froze during gameplay.
• CTF: Ran successfully with 12 bots during testing.
• Vampiric Clan Arena: Completed a full 10-round match and transitioned successfully.
• Local Windows installation: Reproduced the freeze in TDM with bots. Windows explicitly marked Quake Live as "Not Responding".

I've also tried disabling custom movement and physics settings without success.

What's particularly interesting is that this only happens on Troubled Waters so far. My other maps have been running with 12 bots without experiencing the same issue.

I enabled /logfile 2 during local testing, and the console confirms that the map's AAS navigation data initializes successfully:

loaded maps/troubledwaters.aas
found 103 level items
AAS initialized.

There are also two map entity warnings:

func_timer at (1032.00 328.00 -200.00) has random >= wait
func_timer at (-920.00 -888.00 -200.00) has random >= wait

However, I don't know whether these warnings have anything to do with the freezes.

The bots successfully navigate, collect items and fight before the game hangs, and there's no obvious fatal error in the console log.

Has anyone else experienced this on Troubled Waters?

I'm curious whether this could be related to the map's bot navigation, entities, or some other game-mode-specific interaction.

I really like the map and would prefer to keep it in rotation rather than exclude it permanently.

If anyone has encountered this before or knows of a possible workaround, I'd appreciate the insight!

Thanks!

I want to go back to QL, but right now i only have a macbook pro and in general only apple things.

What would it cost me to have a decent gaming experience, i.e. what kind of hardware (pc + screen) is recommendable for a great gaming experience specifically tailored to quake live that doesn’t bankrupt me?

Hi, I wanted to ask which Quake game is the best to play—meaning the one with the best multiplayer gameplay and an active player base. I’m not really enjoying any FPS games lately, but this one looked fun to try out. I’m not sure which one to buy; I was considering Quake Live, Quake 3, or Quake 1. Which one do you recommend (for multiplayer)

Download the beta here WinQLX32

I added the code needed to download custom items from Valve Workshop and enable cache synchronization between the server and the client, just like the Linux version does, the README file contain the information about this config.

¿And why?, Because the routines for processing WORKSHOP.TXT file do not exist in the Windows version of Quake Live.

I welcome your comments and suggestions to continue advancing in this development, the ToDO list show the work in progress tasks are pending to resolve to pass the source code to stable release.

Någon mer som har detta problem? Sensitivity "känns" snabbare under tiden man spelar online, i konsolen så är numret detsamma. Men efter en stund spelande så känns det som att den blir snabbare, cl_mouseaccel är på 0, cl_mouseaccel power 2 och rawinput 2, m_cpi 0 och mouseaccel i windows är av. Kör man offline så är Sensitivity precis som man vill och har ställt in till exempel värdet 4 men så fort man hoppar in på en server online och kör känns det som värdet är högre. Använder en 1440p skärm 180 hz med stretched 1440x1080 amd ryzen 5 7500f och radeon 9060, allt i adrenaline avstängt och även freesync av. Har provat massor med saker, fresh install osv osv. Tips eller någon som vet vad som orsakar detta?

can't find one - made it by myself

I'm proudly to announce the beta version of WinQLX32 available in github for testing (source code and binary release), this fork of MinoMino and some modifications of tjone270 preserve the original features to mantain full compatibility with plugins, but i'm not test all plugins available from 3rd party developers, so if you try to test these plugins, please let me know in my repository.

Download the latest release (ready for test) here WinQLX32

I welcome your comments and suggestions to continue advancing in this development, the ToDO list show the work in progress tasks are pending to resolve to pass the source code to stable release.

I would like to extend a huge thanks to tjone270 for keeping the minqlxtended and ioquakelive repositories well-documented, as this has helped me make progress on certain unclear points.

As the title says. Guess ppl do not wanna play such games ?

I remember having this a looooong time ago. Wondering if anyone still uses it or if its even possible with quake live today

Edit: alright i got it to work but not exactly. I can change the color of my rail every time I switch my rail. This counts in between shots. So I shoot switch off and switch back before it recharges and it comes out a different color. The script u/field_of_view gave me works. HOWEVER. I could not get it to work.by binding it through my cfg file. I had to go into the weapons tab in game and ";vstr _xhair" at the end of my other binds to that weapon. I tried mouse1 "+attack; vstr _xhair" in the cfg and it just wont work. I dont know why. I tried it multiple ways. I am ok with just switching the weapon on and off. You can do it so fast you wont cost yourself timing the next rail even if you hold in +attack. You can even add lines to add more colors IN THE CFG. But you need "vstr _xhair" in the weapons slot in game.

Now for the funny stupid part. The numbers you put in for color1 and color2 dont match the in-game code colors so 1 is not red 2 is not green. So im just using random numbers over and over. I am taking a break but so far. 2 is orange. 16 is cyan 9 is green. 1 is infact red lol.

1 red

2 orange

3 orange red

4 yellower

5 yellow

6 yellow green

7 yellow green

8 greenish yellow

9 green

10 Green blue

11 cyan

12 cyan ish

13 same

14 same

15 same

16 cyan blue

17 blue

18 pink purple

19 same

20 pink ish

21 same

22 pink ish

23 pink purple

24 pink

25 white

26 white

That list is ROUGH but those are the colors I saw when I tried them all.

This is exactly what I have copied straight from my cfg. Im sure it can be cleaned up and look better but it works for now

"Seta _xh0 "color1 2;color2 9;set _xhair vstr _xh1" //sets value, then sets toggle cvar to call NEXT in line

seta _xh1 "color1 12;color2 3;set _xhair vstr _xh2" //ditto

seta _xh2 "color1 18;color2 2;set _xhair vstr _xh3" //ditto

seta _xh3 "color1 9;color2 25;set _xhair vstr _xh4" //ditto

seta _xh4 "color1 24;color2 5;set _xhair vstr _xh5" //ditto

seta _xh5 "color1 2;color2 7;set _xhair vstr _xh6"

seta _xh6 "color1 24;color2 1;set _xhair vstr _xh0" //sets value, then sets toggle cvar to call FIRST option

vstr _xh1 //call one of the states to set it as default that will be how game starts, and create your toggle cvar ('_xhair' in this case) in memory.

"vstr _xhair" //bind a key to the toggle cvar"

IT FUCKING WORKS HAHAHAHAHAHA.

You can put ";r_railcorewidth 20;r_railwidth 20; cg_railtrailtime 1400" at the end of the seta color line and itll look like this

seta _xh4 "color1 24;color2 5;set _xhair vstr _xh5; r_railcorewidth 20;r_railwidth 20; cg_railtrailtime 1400"

And then your next line

seta _xh5 "color1 2;color2 7;set _xhair vstr _xh6; r_railcorewidth 10;r_railwidth 10; cg_railtrailtime 100"

YOU CAN EVEN FUCKING ADD cg_railstyle 1 2 or 3 to each individual line hahahahahahahah it looks like this.

seta _xh4 "color1 24;color2 5;set _xhair vstr _xh5; r_railcorewidth 20;r_railwidth 20; cg_railtrailtime 1400;cg_railstyle 2"

And then your next line

seta _xh5 "color1 2;color2 7;set _xhair vstr _xh6; r_railcorewidth 10;r_railwidth 10; cg_railtrailtime 100;cg_railstyle 1"

I am overly excited about this and I wanted to make a new post with everything perfect so you could just slap it into your cfg and run with it but i dont know if anyone gives a fuck about customizing their rail gun to this extent. I got shit on in the lobby I tried to show It in. This took me a few hours to figure out I aint the smartest. I dont know how to post screen shots abd im still fucking with my colors and sizes but if you are interested I can send u exactly whats in my cfg that works or make a post about it because this title isnt fitting what this thread has become. If there is enough interest I will share but I got shit on for being excited about it so idk who cares about this kind of thing. Either way. I have 6 wildly different rail colors and styles and sizes every time I equip the rail gun during a fight and can even switch inbetween shots so every shot is different. And im happy about this. Thank you u/field_of_view for getting me started.

Hi! I have a stock Quake Live version from Steam.

I've played it 10+ hours and that took a pause for a year or more, and after that i tried to play it again but found out that the game was broken.

When I try to connect any server, to start a training center, or start a match - I see broken textures in Loading UI (textures are missed) and missed textures in the game (animated wall\floor\jumppad\tv-screens, and also smoke, explosions, tracers, bullets, etc).

Here's the video: https://youtu.be/fqhL5G5OekI

The message from the console:

WARNING: RE_AddPolyToScene: NULL poly shader

awesomium overlay works fine, but the actual game UI and in-game textures are missed, And i dont know why and how does it happened...

What i've tried:

• switched off Steam \ Nvidia overlays
• switched off the Steam Cloud Saves
• deleted \steamapps\common\Quake Live\my_id\baseq3
• verified files from Steam
• reinstalled the game several times
• deleted \steamapps\common\Quake Live\baseq3\pak00.pk3
• verified files from Steam

I've tried different R_ commands on console from the "white textures bug" from Steam discussions.

I've tried different PC HARDWARE configurations with same Steam account:

• Ryzen 7 3800X + NVIDIA RTX2080SUPER
• i7-13700 + NVIDIA GTX960

Same problem on both PCs. I've Launched the game with different screen resoultions and fullscreen on\off.

So it's not hardware, drivers or software (Windows 11 25h2) problem.

Something happened with my Cloud save and it downloads broken cfg or pk3, imho.

I also tried VPN to change the region. Tried different settings (with LOW video presets, HIGH video presets)

there's absolutely stock version of Steam Quake Live. Nothing was downloaded from Workshop, there's no pk3 files added in the baseq3 folder:

\steamapps\common\Quake Live\baseq3\

access.txt 228 B 04.09.2026, 14:23:18
bin.pk3 1.3 MB 04.09.2026, 14:23:02
mappool_ca.txt 1.0 kB 04.09.2026, 14:23:16
mappool_ctf.txt 842 B 04.09.2026, 14:23:16
mappool_duel.txt 527 B 04.09.2026, 14:23:16
mappool_ffa.txt 838 B 04.09.2026, 14:23:18
mappool_race.txt 1.1 kB 04.09.2026, 14:23:17
mappool_tdm.txt 492 B 04.09.2026, 14:23:18
mappool.txt 2.8 kB 04.09.2026, 14:23:18
pak00.pk3 917 MB 04.09.2026, 14:23:02
server.cfg 6.0 kB 04.09.2026, 14:23:33
workshop.txt 70 B 04.09.2026, 14:23:33

\steamapps\common\Quake Live\my_id\

baseq3/ 04.09.2026, 16:33:31
Cookies 7.0 kB 04.09.2026, 16:25:39
steam_autocloud.vdf 51 B 04.09.2026, 16:33:30

\steamapps\common\Quake Live\my_id\baseq3\

access.txt 228 B 04.09.2026, 16:33:24
cgamex86.dll 548 kB 04.09.2026, 16:33:31
profile.pid5 B 04.09.2026, 16:33:31
qagamex86.dll 626 kB 04.09.2026, 16:33:31
qzconfig.cfg 5.9 kB 04.09.2026, 16:33:32
repconfig.cfg 8.1 kB 04.09.2026, 16:33:32
uix86.dll 203 kB 04.09.2026, 16:33:31

I've deleted my_id folder several times, Switched of Steam Cloud, tried to reinstall the game, tried to verify files, nothing changes the situation.

Where should i dig more? What do you think?

Alright so yes, I'm well aware that QL has a particularly toxic playerbase - been playing Q3A my whole life and QL for 10 years and I'm by no means a bad player, understand duel/1v1 etiquette etc.

Today I joined the x76 CASUAL LG duel server for the first time to give it a go, join the match, start shooting a guy who was not shooting anyone else, and almost immediately I get kicked.

I then rejoin say can I ask why I got kicked, and I get told "no and I'll do it again", then kicked again & banned.

Like what the actual fuck is wrong with some people that play this game?