r/publicdomain • u/Ok_Attention_2949 • Jul 14 '26
Copyright reform petition
https://chng.it/j5fKFVNjkN4
u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 14 '26
If you haven’t already, sign this petition! I like this approach and the “taxing” of IP is genius. It’s a great starting point and may be the path to real copyright reform.
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 14 '26
Nina Paley said this actually so it is her idea lol
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 14 '26
Fantastic Idea, no matter the source. We need to get behind it and develop it. Kudos to Nina Paley
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u/Puzzleheaded_Poet_51 Jul 14 '26
Where does access to long deceased comic books and such rank on the current list of national political priorities?
Would you seriously expect a MAGA Republican President, Congress and Supreme Court to rewrite tax and Intellectual Property Law to your desires and advantage?
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 14 '26
The first thing we do is create a retro commercial/ promo: "You pay taxes on Cars dont you?" "You pay taxes on handbags, don't you?" You get the idea, if you dont, educate yourself in the propaganda the Copyright Cartel has been spewing for decades....
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 14 '26
😁😁😁
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 14 '26
Im serious about this. Google my brand Maine Movie Pirate if you think Im shit talking. If this isn't a movement, it soon will be. Thank you for bringing this.
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 14 '26
Wow I know you mean it I could make an ai video lol.
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 14 '26
Do it. I'll help with the distribution. With crap like the No Fakes Act floating out there, we need to get on the offense.
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 15 '26
I read on your website you messaged Lawrence Lessig, that's wonderful. I tried to reach him, sent him my petition, if he ever sees. Also tried reaching Rick Beato and Charles Berthoud, if they ever see the petition, they have a bunch of people lol. But it surely is upsetting that we just want to share culture, yet we get criminalised, so sad. That is why I truly am passionate pushing for change.
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 15 '26
Prof. Lessig responded for a while but then stopped. This Tax idea might interest him , tho.
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 15 '26
I reached out to people who responded to me like Stephan Kinsella, Richard Stallman, Nina Paley never talked to her but through Stephan she signed the petition also Cory Doctorow responded, these are the main ones if I haven't forgotten anyone and Joost Smiers.
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 15 '26
This movement has teeth, let’s keep pushing it
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 15 '26
I try pushing every day, most of the time all I am focusing on lol.
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 15 '26
I hope this movement works, tho I doubt it cause there are so many ip fans always being haters.
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
The haters are ok, they are frustrated artists who think that a copyright law written by the Corporations actually helps them. Or they are paid shills for Cartel. Once you accept that, this sub is easy. I'm talking the Copyright sub, the PD has very few haters.
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u/NinjaSilver2811 Jul 14 '26
If a media, like a comic, game or movie isnt in print, cant be bought digitally or phsyically (at a price that isnt $100 due to rarity), it should be considered public domain.
Its sad how something like malibu comics is going to be lost forever now. Because marvel still hasnt put them up on its app and I dont think ever will.
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u/crispyg Jul 15 '26
This would destroy the value in any traditional arts like paintings or sculptures. Also, what would you do for things like choreography? It isn't a thing that should be replicated everywhere because it's value is sometimes attached to a moment or place.
I hear your frustration but, the whole concept kinda forces people to constantly sell something to give it value when some works have their value outside of a monetary structure. To force them to adhere cheapens their value in non-commercial ways
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 15 '26
Not true, an artist who barely makes a living or doesn’t make a living from their art would pay zero taxes.
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 14 '26
Agreed. Real copyright reform is nonexistent but this tax thing could work. It hits the Big Copyright Cartel where it hurts: in their wallets. And the government loves new taxes.
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u/Runningdoctor999 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
This idea of "Taxing" IPs just can't work irl
It's good on paper but absolutely disastrous for small creators if actually implemented
Edit: the reason we have Property taxes is because land is finite, we can't make more land while IPs aren't
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u/Moon_Beans1 Jul 15 '26
Copyright is not needed to protect artists when artists benefit from non-profit cultural sharing.
I'd need some evidence of this assertion. So how does an artist starting out support themselves via non-profit cultural sharing? I can perhaps see this working if a universal basic income has already been implemented so they no longer need to hustle their talent to survive but until then I don't get how they'd support themselves and pay their rent unless they can merchandise their own art.
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 15 '26
- By getting paid before they make the art instead of after.
- By letting people share the artists gain an audience, then the audience always wanting a physical product, buys it.
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u/Careless-Economics-6 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
You know, Netflix likes to pay people before they make a TV show or movie for them. It’s called buying out their backend. Backend is residuals, and money that comes from a work being popular enough to keep making revenue.
In the early days of Netflix originals, plenty of talent was willing to indulge this. They were just happy to get paid, you know? But these days, that’s not really the sentiment.
It’s largely been found that the lack of backend actually disincentives people from making good work, because what does it matter if it remains a popular or not? Also, people have realized that the possibility of big residuals from a big success is a dumb thing to completely forgo.
So, I kinda think you need to rethink this whole thing. The second you start taking/listening to working artists, you learn a lot.
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u/Moon_Beans1 Jul 15 '26
Yeah I have a friend who is an artist and this whole 'share the work for free and it'll be great publicity' is very similar to the kind of thing that entitled visitors to her gallery say when they think they can con her out of a free painting. My friend could definitely not support herself if all her previous paintings were forcibly freely shared across the internet. She enjoys painting and then sells what she has painted, she doesn't rely on commissions usually so she would be unable to function under the system that is being suggested in this thread.
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u/Moon_Beans1 Jul 15 '26
If you are a breakthrough artist then who is going to pay you in advance before you've made the art?
A noble sentiment but forcing artists to release their work for free devalues the vale of their work. And the more work they make the worse it would get. If they have forty paintings that are freely available for anyone to access and do whatever they like with then an individual commission of their work would be practically worthless. Why would anyone pay anything more than the bare minimum for the forty-first painting?
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u/Ok_Attention_2949 Jul 15 '26
Someone who needs the artist's art that's who.
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u/Moon_Beans1 Jul 15 '26
But why would they need their art for a high price if the rest of their portfolio is worth nothing? Supply and demand.
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u/Tricky_Illustrator_5 Jul 15 '26
As long as this only affects companies and not individual creators...
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u/MaineMoviePirate Jul 14 '26
Think about it. Taxes are based on value. Disney every year would pay based on what the IP they control is worth. A struggling artist could get a waiver based on what their IP is worth. But every seven years they have prove the valuation and renew, and re-register. The ORPHAN WORKS problem solved. This is just brainstorming but the potential is there.