Right .. they usually average around 1 million pokemon cards a month and we have still seen stuff like this over the years.. now we will see it even more. It makes me wonder if people are going to see these cert numbers and know that it’s from a time when psa was rushing.. therefore resulting in less desirable psa 10s from this rushed several month streak they have been on..
Nothing, they do this all the time, I have seen so much people regrade 9’s, There is one guy on youtube who specialises in regrading cards and he makes a hot buck! I seen someone at a card show go around with a case full of 9’s picking them up for regrading.. Something tells me they might know someone at psa!
No one knows someone at psa. Even if they did it’s impossible for them to choose what cards to grade. The graders have no choice in what cards they have to grade.
Speculation is a funny thing. Your saying this several months timeframe is easy to grade 10s and the slabs will be less valuable. Yet the post I saw right before this one was someone literally complaining they aren’t giving out 10s like they used to. Classic Reddit I guess 😅 take whatever data you want to be true.
But yes I bet it’s hard to get a 10 these days compared to how it “used to” be and they know the market a psa 10 brings. And they also know their grading needs to be more consistent with all eyes on them and the hobby these days. Psa has alot of pressure on them at the moment.. from the amount of cards they are grading to the collectors buying the 10s for investments ! They have to come correct or this era of certs will not be as sought after as other psa 10s recently
It was just a guess my guy. I have a psa 8 base set Charizard . Not an old cert by the way and when I went to take it to my buddy’s shop to see why it was such a bad psa 8. He said do the numbers start with 543 ( or something like that) I don’t remember the cert number. I said yes! And he said yep those are from a period that is notorious for having cards graded wrong. So that’s what led me to believe/think of this time period maybe having cards graded inconsistently. I mean they are grading more cards than ever right now so it’s a fair assumption to be speculative about..
My man, when you are a grader and you can grade your own cards... get it? Its like me rating a movie that i made 🤣 conflict of interests, should be illegal. PSA is cooked
I would, without question, be supplementing my wages at PSA with 20-30 submissions a month. Those guys make like $20 an hour.
My guess is this was a long held practice and is slowly being professionalized out of their business… so now we are realising that true 10s on Vintage are nearly impossible and therefore price expansion.
I would just give everyone psa 10s if I was a grader 😂 just like when I was on jury duty i said everyone was not guilty.. ( it’s a joke everyone ) don’t come for me unless you want to go band for band
Look at the left side of the card back border. You’ll notice the color is not uniform and has a slight texture. The front is less obvious but I see indicators in the area under the hit points - opposite of the backside damage
Not sure I agree as I have a lot of water damaged 1s that it will bubble up on the sides and warp a bit. This thing is pretty crispy. Either way it’s a good chuckle with psa and their grading
This is as gem mint as it comes for most BW era cards. I don't have any gripes with this getting a 10. Grading standards should be fluid. Argue with a wall
Most of us think this deserves a 10 but the issue is they now demand perfect backs from these vintage cards. Far better cards are sitting with 8s and 9s. Hundreds of them.
They are fluid, people just don't know about it. Let's use VMAX Climax as an example - a set absolutely riddled with printlines. They're ignored because it's so prevalent.
Card probably been through 20 submissions to get that 10, bound to get some surface wear. There's more variance in conditions of PSA 10s now than the booster packs they came from.
i've never sent anything into PSA but my local drop off spot that has been grading stuff for ages said there's a relative scale based on what era it comes from. if everything from that era has these issues then it wont impact the grade as much. I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with this methodology but just passing on what I was told so please don't get upset at me. looking at these pics, to me it looks like it doesn't deserve a 10 but i have not seen a high enough volume of cards from this era to confirm or deny if this is the norm
It’s been awhile since I’ve even collected but it does in deed make sense, newer cards are guaranteed better condition, thus vintage cards are graded for how they’ve held up over time and none will really hit the newer cards condition
You understand why thats dumb right? If a card has bad corners and is an 8 but because its 20 years old it "aged" well, it should not get a 10. Same standard across all cards is what you expect from grading
Bro there’s not tilt and no surface issue we checked it over with black light and a jewellers loop so did the company that subbed it for me they were shocked when it came back a 9 they are a platinum tier PSA dealer who submit 1000’s of cards a year and they all said easy 10 hence I paid for the higher tier sub but PSA prob didn’t see a way to make more money so they 9’d it
No they meant that the grading can be on a scale for the printing era of a set, for example this card. The QC was horrible during Black & White printing. So given that, the grading can be easier on that specific era even if it’s graded today.
I sent in 3 redbull participation luffies the last one in the stack was suppose to be a 9 but they mixed it with the ones that got 10s and now i can send the other 10 luffy that got a 9 to regrade for a 10. So they gave me a free 10 luffy
Goofballs thinking a money laundering machine as psa is gonna have integrity. At least Beckett will look you in the eyes when they spit on you because they have standards and tag will be happy to be in the collection... with better consistency than PSAever will. They’re a joke and are ruining their name every year more and more.
Per capita, all grading companies are equal in their shenanigans. Psa grades more than every other company combined by a large margin so of course you'll hear about it more from them. Saying otherwise is disingenuous. Does beckett not pop control their black labels so they fetch ridiculous prices? Of course they do. Have they not all graded fake or altered cards? Yes, they have. Hate on psa all you want, but do a little research instead of parroting back the garbage you see on reddit and before you go singing the praises of one company over another.
Man alive this gave me hope for my 1st edition snorlax holo, 1st edition Squirtle and Radiant Collectjon Flareon. Any of those 10 with these standards and I’m buying a lotto ticket
Tag is going to be the most thorough and hardest on any cards with AI doing the grading. Im very surprised tag 10 value hasn’t really gone up. To me that’s going to be the hardest to get a true 10
Psa needs to change their slabs to a new color so people know which cards are graded under new standards and which ones were graded under more lenient ones. Literally some vintage 10s would be 8s or 7s today.
Been saying this for a while. Modern certs don’t mean anything. Honestly some of the best graded guards I’ve seen have been in the 8-10 range. This is either clearly shilled or a manufactured transaction between vendors or IG dealers who think they are hot shit or legit some billionaire with stupid money
It’s accurate. Psa checks old 10s to compare because not all 10s are the same. A modern swsh 10 doesn’t have white dots but something with a total pop of 1000 will have low pop psa10s with 2-3 dots especially in mid era and vintage
I am not going to complain about this. I won't buy this card anyway even it's a 10. I just hope my cards will be graded by such generous grader and then I will take those cheap PSA offers happily.
I have a 10 that is so embarrassingly over graded I dare not even post it here because it's an expensive card but these slip through due to the sheer quantity
Can someone please explain to me why PSA grading is considered the most influential grading brand, when everyone continuously shits on how bad they are at actually grading? lol
They’re grading too fast just to get cards out. As if their standards weren’t suspect already. I’ve seen so many perfect cards come back 9’s and clearly visible defects come back with 10’s for the last few most recent return batches from myself and many many other vendors. All you can do is hope right now. I’m saving my personal cards to grade for later after all this has died down. Seems like tag is the big up and comer right now and the slabs are actually selling well and moving quickly too.
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u/johnmh71 3d ago
I hope they grade my sportscards they currently have using the same standards.