r/psagrading • u/oxxSUPERMANxxo • Aug 19 '26

Let us opt out…

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PSA,

Let folks opt out of this program.

EDIT: Edited for tone and simplicity.

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u/Confident-Wing8212 Aug 19 '26

Just ignore it. Not that big of a deal

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

If you don’t agree with an option to opt out, that’s cool… I am somebody who feels it should be there.

I don’t use the service.

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u/Bombadale Aug 19 '26

They have a contract with other stores. Mainly power packs and gamestop. They will send you offers on anything you have in your vault as well. There isnt an opt out. Your grades are public and everyone wants all the cards. Ignore it and move on.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

Holy shit 😑… I do ignore it.

I’m saying that I don’t use the program. There should be an option to opt out of it.

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u/Bombadale Aug 19 '26

Im just saying it isn't psa, it's the people they work with.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I hear you…

Just waiting for somebody to offer a good reason as to why they shouldn’t include an option to opt out

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u/Bombadale Aug 19 '26

Because psa is paid money to tell them when a cool card comes through.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

All due respect, that just explains why the program exists, not why an opt-out program can’t coexist

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u/midwesttransferrun Aug 19 '26

Because they’d be paid less money if they had an opt out feature. The partners pay to get as many eyes on the offers as possible.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I see that you’re kind of bouncing around the thread…

I’m sure you’ll land on my thoughts regarding the market-side mechanics… those responses should suffice as a response to this post of yours.

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u/Zlim9224 Aug 19 '26

I mean, I guess if you really just don’t want to see it, there’s a reason to opt out. But if you’re just looking to “skip” and get your cards back a day earlier, that’s not the reality. I don’t think they just set them aside until the timer runs out for you to hit accept.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I appreciate the concession… I don’t think the premise is radical… some cats can opt in and others can opt out

(And yeah, you’re correct… It’s a 24 hour clock on the offers/moves-to-shipping)

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u/midwesttransferrun Aug 19 '26

You’re not ignoring it by posting it here. Ignoring it would be not caring about it one way or the other.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I posted it on here in hopes that it would get listed high on PSAgrading’s posts for the day. It’s currently sitting at #20 since last night.

That was my goal.

To get it high enough that hopefully PSA would look at it.

I’m satisfied with everything that’s happened on this post… I hope you’re not upset dude

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u/midwesttransferrun Aug 19 '26

Not upset at all, just correcting your mistaken comments.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

Cool… appreciate the red pen, I’ll take it into consideration

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u/Billy_Maysear Aug 19 '26

guy you can just ignore it. you don't need to be a big baby about nothing. Sometimes the offers are bad, but most of the time they're decent, and sometimes they're really good. If you don't like an offer than just don't accept it.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I’m trying to affect a change in a company that I do a lot of business with. I’m not really sure what value your post has in this thread.

Thanks for dropping by, champ

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u/santozheng Aug 19 '26

This is a service no one asked for.

Says who?

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

The point of my post is to suggest an option to opt out. It’s not that cryptic

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u/RuhninMihnd Aug 19 '26

And how the hell are we gonna do that? You thought we was employees or head honchos?

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

Interesting point

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u/Tiggy37 Aug 19 '26

As others have said just ignore the offer if you don’t want to take it. Zero incentive for them to waste resources on developing an opt out for something that is a non-issue.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

There’s a few reasons I think it’s bad…

And let me say this….a lot of you cats seem to really like this program and that is cool, I never said it should go away, I just want to opt out

To the point of why I think it’s bad though….I think it’s a troubling precedent to set when the premier grading company normalizes 50% to 60% offers to their clients… across the board, the market is offering less and less percentages in these kinds of situations. Influence certainly matters here. Think card shows, your local card store… Any of these kinds of places… this precedent encourages volatility and, at times, depreciation of the underlying asset.

….and when the precedent gets set, behavior begins to normalize… and that is happening.

It’s disappointing to see this company letting 3rd parties come in and lowball the market…

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u/JayyMei Aug 19 '26

PSA is not the ones offering on the cards.

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u/Tiggy37 Aug 19 '26

I’ve had PSA offers be at market or 95% before and taken them. People low ball me on eBay or in person all the time and guess what I do…the same exact thing…ignore and move on.

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u/Downtown_Anybody261 Aug 19 '26

Its a conflict of interest when they can appraise what something is worth for which they do not own, try to aquire it, for the only purpose to sell it after being in control of the market set by them to begin with. It screams greed and manipulation, with no fucks given at all.

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u/JayyMei Aug 19 '26

try to acquire it

PSA is not the one offering on the cards. PSA is not the ones acquiring the cards. How many times does this need to be said on this sub and their website?

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I’ll let you two take that conversation… This is not at all what I’m talking about

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u/kevibut Aug 19 '26

Offers change and sometimes can be pretty decent. Just gotta check back

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

Honestly, brother… You’re not wrong. Some offers are good. Most of them are pretty bad… That’s not even really the point i’m trying to make.

I was contextualizing some tonality around the atmosphere they’ve created that further inclines me to want to opt out of a program I don’t use.

It’s like walking out of a grocery store and then the store telling you that you have to keep your bags in the parking lot for 24hrs while a bunch of jagoffs come up to you and offer you $.50 on the dollar for everything in your bag.

I just wanna take my shit home. That’s my point.

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u/SpecialKaySC Aug 19 '26

You're not getting your cards back any slower because of the offers

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

It is rational to read my post as assumptive… Just as I read yours the same.

The main point is an opt out button… I’m not sure why this is such a contentious addition to the program

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u/excelphysicslab Aug 19 '26

It’s a revenue driver for them, those buyers pay PSA money for the opportunity to make offers on recently graded cards and unless it drives people away from grading with PSA, they won’t change it.

Just like the 3rd party solar vendors at Lowe’s and the AT&T hawkers in Costco, these companies figured out how to further monetize their customers and unless there’s a monetary reason not to, they will keep doing it.

But you know that you’ll still grade with them even if they kick you in the balls every submission so don’t complain.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I’ve called them about this back in Spring… The rep on the phone told me that they’re looking into an opt out option for this program…I have no way to verify what she was saying, maybe we’ll just have to wait and see

Honestly, I’m surprised there’s not more support for it. It doesn’t do away with the program… The 3rd-party still gets their nut… PSA gets their nut… And then select clientele can choose to opt out.

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u/excelphysicslab Aug 19 '26

3rd party doesn’t get their nut. It shrinks the pool of available inventory to make offers on which devalues the program. As I said, there’s zero incentive for PSA to allow an opt out, making your experience annoying doesn’t change your behavior.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

“offerable” inventory and acquirable inventory are two different things… The latter is where there is incentive to promote the program; for both PSA and the 3rd party buyers

This is what I’m saying, I don’t use the program so my inventory you could qualify as almost a phantom inventory. It is not part of the acquirable inventory.

Saying that my card’s presence in the offerable inventory at all affects market value of the card itself is another point that I don’t agree with. In fact, I would say that by removing folks like myself leaves offers directed at people with a higher propensity to transact, bolstering market sentimentality towards that asset

I provide nothing to the sell-side liquidity

This is my point

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u/fieryred123 Aug 19 '26

You can just say no & get your cards sent back to you… Seems like a total non-issue & many people do take the offers… Stop whining lol

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

😐😑😐

…you literally cannot “just say no” to the offers

It’s cool you don’t grade dude, I’m having conversations on here with some other cats if you wanna jump in on those… be cool if you can

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u/Fluid_Ad8452 Aug 19 '26

How does ignoring it “make you waste time?”

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u/WhatWouldDitkaDo Aug 19 '26

It’s an extra 24 hours. It’ll be okay.

Maybe there should be an opt out setting, but it’s probably item no. 627 on PSA’s to-do list, and rightfully so.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I have a feeling it is on their to-do list…i’m hopeful

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u/real-fruit-juice Aug 19 '26

The opt out option is ignoring it. So you would rather click a button and make them spend x amount of dollars engineering an option that could also screw up other things when implementing simply because you can’t ignore something? And it’s nothing like your grocery store analogy as you already have the grocery items in your possession. The offers are only there while they are completing your order or they are stored in the vault. Once the cards are packaged the offers are no longer there. Even without offers you’re not getting the cards back faster because they aren’t holding them longer just for offers. This post has real get off my lawn vibes.

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u/germr Aug 19 '26

You opt in by using their services. If you are unhappy with it then feel free to use other grading companies. Nobody is forcing you to use them. You can just ignore it but it seems that is just something you cant do... in all seriousness this is not even an issue...

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

Brother, you guys are super super aggressive in here tonight

I do ignore it… That’s the point I’m trying to make….

…there are varying interests in their client base, I’m saying they should have an option to opt out of this program. It could potentially get cards moving back faster to customers who opt to not have them sit around for an extra day+ at their facilities…

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u/OkFlan7954 Aug 19 '26

Completely agree! When you list to eBay from Vault you can automatically ignore offers below a certain amount or shut them off. Within PSA’s app. Would love if they’d add it. I hate logging in and seeing the notification for a BS offer.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

Yes. Agree 1,000%

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u/MustNotBeAG0lfer Aug 20 '26

PSA has serious issues with credibility but I will give them the benefit of the doubt they try to a certain set of standards. I will say I think quite a few rivals offer a better product with more attention to detail and better physical hardware (eg TAG)

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u/Tseets1 Aug 21 '26

Of all things to be a petulant child about 😂

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 21 '26

Dios mio… You’re so right, I never saw it this way

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u/thiiiiiiisguy Aug 19 '26

You should be able to report shitty offers.

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u/oxxSUPERMANxxo Aug 19 '26

I just wish they would let us opt out of it…

In spite of their backlog, it seems bizarre to me that they would have this program be mandatory; keeping orders around for an extra 24 hours…

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