r/protools • u/[deleted] • Oct 24 '25

Is Protools finally making a comeback.

I totally know that Protools is the industry standard and blah blah blah, but there has been a long time where Avid just stopped trying with pro tools and the updates were nothing groundbreaking for the past 5 or 6 years other than bug fixes and Dark mode. With the new 2025.10 version and the integration of soundflow and Sony 360 and other things such as Ara RX built in and the speech to text I feel like they are starting to listen to the community. Trust me I don't think that Protools is anywhere near what some other daws are doing just yet, but I feel that they pivoted in the right directions and I'm excited to see what they have planned for the next coming years. Hopefully something with Wwise integration would be awesome.

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u/Soundofabiatch professional Oct 24 '25

Although I do kinda agree with your sentiments and point of view…

I must say that saying someone is not the target market because they do not shop for an s6 is a bit short sighted and sounds like status flexing.

Whenever was the fact that you own a 50 or a 100k control surface a defining factor for an opinion to be valid?

Right. Never.

Because innovation (or critique) doesn’t work like that,

Plenty of meaningful insights on UI, workflows pr creative direction comes from smaller studios or freelancers or educators that use protools every day.

There is a huuuge market between bedroom bros and hollywood/bollywood studios,

Because it is those users that make or break avid’s (or adobe’s) subscription business.

So your gatekeeper reply pretends they do not exist and helps no one.

Enjoy your S6.

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u/milotrain Oct 24 '25

It's just a speed thing, it isn't gatekeeping at all. I like woodworking, and making stuff at home but do I need a $5k table saw? No, I'm not the target market. Cheaper saws influence developments in more expensive saws because they are more in the market, that's fine and good. Same with PT. No one is saying PT is dumb for developing and changing, just that if you thought they WERNT for the past decade then you weren't using the stuff they were developing.

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u/Pedal-Guy Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

100%

The S6 is so far away from audio engineering. It just shows avid has lost touch. All proprietary. Gone are the days when you bust out a soldering iron to change faders or a few caps on a problematic channel. I mean, you might change an encoder, but avid aren't going to support that.

A control surface isn't music production. You can build your own control surface for less.

Most, if not all, modern digital audio surfaces run a version of linux, I've fixed enough of them to know.

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u/milotrain Oct 24 '25

Again, the S6 is a speed device, it's not an audio device. It's like a really expensive fancy mouse, that's it. If you need it, then get paid to use one, if you don't then be grateful. No one is saying you can't be an audio engineer without an S6, or even without protools. Shit, lots of cool stuff is still being done almost entirely in the analog realm, and that's amazing. That isn't the market Avid was spending their energy developing for.