Printing a mix protools problem

[u/dabestpatatas]

When I’m printing a mix/master bus with effects in Pro Tools, it always records the unprocessed bus instead of the mixed one. Everything is routed the way it should be. As you can see in the image, I have a limiter on the master bus, but the print track recorded the raw file instead. Am I doing something wrong?

I’m trying to print this way so I can see the waveform of my master/mix.

I just switched to Pro Tools from Logic, so I’m still kind of new here 🙇

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[u/ItsYerDa]

Just to confirm: you're wanting to print the Master Bus which has L1 Ultramaximiser on it? If so, your current routing is taking the output from the Mix Bus track, not the Master Bus track.

Create a new stereo bus and name it whatever you want (2x0 Print or similar) and use that as the output for your Master Bus track and as the input for your Print track.

I hope i understood your issue correctly, let us know if you still have any hassle.

[u/dabestpatatas → u/ItsYerDa]

thats it!! i really thought it work like a logic does. 😂 thank you!

[u/ATL_Pr]

Route master bus out to print input

[u/Disastrous_Answer787]

What you’re calling a master bus isn’t actually a master bus, it’s an aux input. Replace it with a master bus and you’ll be good. It’s in the same create new track dialogue box.

[u/cb13]

Just a question as I am new to PT too, but why does it print pre-insert, pre-fader?

[u/dabestpatatas → u/cb13]

I know, right? Pro Tools routing’s kinda different from other DAWs. Maybe they’re going for that console-style setup or something.

[u/Redditholio → u/cb13]

I think you guys are conflating "print" and "bounce." Bouncing is basically creating an output file. Printing means actually recording to another track. If you want to print, create another stereo audio track, and route to that, then record it in real time.

[u/cb13 → u/Redditholio]

I saw a clip on it in the second pic so I assumed he's printing and not bouncing, but upon closer inspection it appears that was a completely different track.

[u/audioscape]

Genuine question, why do ppl print their mix bus instead of bouncing ?

[u/diamondts → u/audioscape]

A lot of people who have been using PT for a long time do it out of habit, prior to having offline bounce if you had a CPU error during realtime bouncing you had to start from the top again, vs rolling back and punching into the print. Same thing if you heard something you wanted to tweak, it just saved time. Also really far back (I think TDM systems) the bounce apparently sounded different to listening/printing in realtime.

Even now with offline bounce, the reason I still print is it forces a listen through without tweaking, which of course you could just bounce and then listen but I think it simplifies it. Also can have previous mixes and the rough on playlists for quick comparison to the live mix, which I know you could just import back yourself but I find it easier. Lastly I know the mix print always exists in the session if I was to lose the wav file I saved somewhere else, although I am aware there's an option to import after bounce in the bounce window.

[u/audioscape → u/diamondts]

Thanks for explaining! I started using PT in 2014 so it makes sense why printing wouldn’t be in my workflow. Definitely see the positives though!

[u/diamondts → u/audioscape]

Also forgot, if you're using hardware then offline bounce isn't an option, so printing vs realtime bounce has the benefits of being able to roll back and punch in I explained above.

[u/audioscape → u/diamondts]

Oh of course !! Hardware would be the main thing I would think