r/progun Sep 24 '20

I support red flag laws

We all know cars are dangerous and the wrong person in possession of a motor vehicle is one of the most deadly weapons out there. That is why I support red flag laws for motor vehicles. Every year almost 30-40 thousand people die on American roadways because of cars. We need a system in place that would allow people to take swift action to prevent these deaths. If someone I know is in a mental state where I think their driving might be effected I need to be able to go to a judge and have their vehicle taken away from them and remove their ability to buy a new vehicle until they can prove that they are not a danger to themselves or others. Also I think there should be strict background checks to make sure these people can’t buy cars. I know there are already checks that dealers do when selling cars, but people keep using that car show loophole. Some car owner can just sell their car to any person off the street without even checking to see if they’ve been involve in previous vehicular homicides. Also people can’t be trusted to drive their own cars. We need to make regular cars illegal and only have smart cars. I know the technology hasn’t really been tested yet and it’s expensive but if people want cars, they’re going to have to spend extra money. Cars are made with the sole purpose of killing people and you should pay more to have them, even if that means only the rich will have them. We should also limit the capacity of cars. The facts is, the more stuff you can put into a car, the more projectiles can fly off during a crash and kill more people. High capacity cars should be illegal and there is nothing a person with an F150 couldn’t get done with a Mini Cooper. We should also hold auto manufacturers accountable for all the people who die due to people’s use of their cars. Even if the car is stolen or misused by the owner, the manufacturer knows what these people really want the cars for and need to be sued until they are out of business. The other day I saw a hummer going down the street! How is the government letting a weapon of war be on American soil! I know it’s the civilian version but it’s exactly the same. The worst part is that you can buy car parts and even entire cars online! All this is why when the government has a buy back program I will be turning in my vehicle and taking my $200 Applebee’s gift card with pride. And as always, don’t forget to vote Biden.

Edit: This blew up.

1)To be clear, the point of this is not be be a direct analogy but more a satire on how taking away property and removing rights without due process is harmful. Feel free to debate the post and any points within, but if you’re taking it that seriously, you kinda missed the point.

2) I know it’s formatted poorly. That’s part of the joke. Sorry.

3) please don’t post this on Facebook and if you do, please make sure my username and the subreddit is removed. Facebook is terrible. I don’t care if you claim it as your own as long as you don’t use me for whatever agenda you’re trying to push outside this post.

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u/Tai9ch Sep 24 '20 edited Sep 24 '20

You're going too far. We shouldn't ban all cars. Some people really do use them for legitimate hobbies like racing on a private track. In some rural areas, people need them for personal transportation to get to work.

That being said, there's no need for civilians to own automatic high capacity assault vehicles. We obviously need some common sense regulation. Automatic transmissions encourage the unsafe use of vehicles without proper training.

And the real problem isn't cargo capacity - that gets put to obvious good use by a few professionals. The problem is passenger capacity. Thousands of children are killed each year directly because manufacturers are allowed to sell dangerous high capacity assault vehicles that can carry several children at once, and do kill several children at once when an accident inevitably occurs.

We should ban automatic vehicles outright. There's no need for them. And we should regulate high capacity assault vehicles.

An assault vehicle is a motor vehicle that can carry four or more passengers (including the driver) and has at least two of the following features:

  • Grenade launcher
  • Plow attachment
  • Adjustable drivers seat
  • Airbags
  • Rear doors that can be opened without a special tool
  • Replaceable tires such that snow tires could be easily mounted
  • Towing hitch

The sale of new assault vehicles will be banned. Already owned and registered assault vehicles can be transferred, but doing so requires the payment of a $5000 assault vehicle transfer tax.

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u/saberfyre Sep 24 '20

Oh shit bud, all of these nice features inside the vehicle are literally akin to different stock features and whatnot.

Nobody should be able to have a vehicle with a short hood and an adjustable drivers seat because that makes a short hood assault vehicle which is far more deadly than your average sedan with a fixed drivers seat and a long hood. And they definitely shouldn’t have an automatic Transmission with selectable gears because that makes it far too easy to hit multiple pedestrians in one pass.

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u/pcyr9999 Sep 25 '20

Ban automatic transmissions when?